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ATTN: Casino Rep Demo play not the same as real - GameArt slots

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Jasminebed, Jan 25, 2018.

    Jan 25, 2018
  1. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

    Occupation:
    Not in workforce
    Location:
    Ontario
    There is a game called Thunder Bird from GameArt.

    I like the game, played some in real with mixed results.

    But the past few days, I've been playing in fun mode at VideoSlots. I've tried both desktop and mobile platforms.

    This game in demo mode hits the bonus like crazy. Rare to go fifty spins without one. Less than 10 spins is common. I've only once gone over 100 spins.

    Took me less than 1/2 hour today to get my balance, starting with 500 and $10 bets to over 100K, with max bet of $40. The other day it took me nearly an hour :p

    Only once have I lost the initial stake of $500, and I think I started with max bet that time.

    I will say that I think the bonus rounds pay similar to real mode, generally being 40 to 150 x bet, with a very few under 20x, and again a very few over 400x.

    It's always been my understanding that demo mode must pay the same as real mode as a licensing requirement.

    The Game Payouts on the VS pages show a RTP in line with what should be expected.

    I'm going to try some of GameArt's other titles in demo mode as well.

    Wondering if anyone knows of other casinos running their games? I would not imagine that this is isolated to VS.

    I've sent Dan a link to this thread.
     
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  2. Jan 25, 2018
  3. Dan.Videoslots

    Dan.Videoslots Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Games Manager
    Location:
    Malta
    Hi Jasminebed,

    The math and RTP are the exact same in demo mode or real mode.

    Br,
    Daniel.
     
  4. Jan 25, 2018
  5. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

    Occupation:
    Not in workforce
    Location:
    Ontario
    While I do appreciate a speedy reply, there is no way you could have spent any time at all investigating my claim. I realize lucky streaks happen, but day after day to over 1000 - 2800x bet size in short periods of time?

    Probably "up" 400,000 in about 6 hours of demo play. Hit frequency for the bonus round on an average of approximately every 25 spins?

    I'm hoping a few more players will try this and see if they have similar results.
     
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  6. Jan 25, 2018
  7. Temprush

    Temprush Experienced Member

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    Concret
    Location:
    Sweden
    Shall play now with demo, and try it out. Perhaps make a deposit and compare it to. With lowest bet in demo and real if it come to that i deposit ofc.
    l
     
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  8. Jan 25, 2018
  9. Dan.Videoslots

    Dan.Videoslots Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Games Manager
    Location:
    Malta
    Hi jasminebed,

    I contacted the provider and they confirmed that the RTP and math is exactly the same in Demo/real mode.

    Br,
    Daniel.
     
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  10. Jan 25, 2018
  11. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

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    Stuntman
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    The number of times I've made ten or twenty K from small bets in Demo Mode - aka 'Fun Play' - is astounding.

    I have yet to replicate this in real play.

    Funnily enough.
     
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  12. Jan 25, 2018
  13. Temprush

    Temprush Experienced Member

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    Concret
    Location:
    Sweden
    Played that game now in demo, got 4 features in less than 100 spins, lowest bet. went from 40euro to 100 euro, increased bet to 0.4 lost it all with no feature still in demo mode. Have to try it with real money later today. But felt like the real deal, lowest bet = win increase bet lose it all, LoL.
    Dan, does the bet size affect the slots in some way, or is it just what it feels like sometimes? I mean if you playing at the lowest bet, you can get feature after feature with decent wins, then increase it from 0.2 to 0.4 and feature hunt is on, but win from those can be higher? So do that in some way determine how often features will trigger and payouts? Or is it just me that have that feeling? :rolleyes::lolup:
     
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  14. Jan 25, 2018
  15. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

    Occupation:
    Not in workforce
    Location:
    Ontario
    I have to get ready to go out, but here's results from a few hundred spins:

    So, decided to have a go at $1 spins, demo mode balance 500

    First spin, bonus round

    Bonus win $123.

    21 spins later, bonus round

    Bonus 219.

    7 spins later:

    Bonus 42.50

    76 spins

    Bonus 89.75

    13 spins

    Bonus 3.5

    11 spins

    Bonus 195.75

    Balance: $1104.50

    33 spins

    Bonus 204.50

    31 spins

    Bonus 334.50

    30 spins

    Bonus 68.50

    5 spins

    Bonus 305.50

    76 spins

    Bonus 176.50

    Balance $2132

    To be continued later ...
     
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  16. Jan 25, 2018
  17. Dan.Videoslots

    Dan.Videoslots Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Games Manager
    Location:
    Malta
    Hi Temprush,

    The bet size will not affect the outcome of a slot, each spin is as random as the next, the RTP of a slot will stay the same regardless of a bet size.

    Best regards,
    Daniel.
     
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  18. Jan 25, 2018
  19. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    All being said and true, I do have an "RTP enhancer" available for Dead or Alive (real money mode of course).

    It's on special offer right now for only £99.99 (usually double that) Paypal, Skrill or BT please :thumbsup:
     
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  20. Jan 25, 2018
  21. lnspin

    lnspin Senior Member webmeister

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    Every Demo mode on any slot i have ever played has payed out features spin after spin after spin, switch to real money and nothing.. There is no one in the world who can tell me that demo mode plays the same as real mode
     
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  22. Jan 25, 2018
  23. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

    Location:
    uk
    Are you doing the TSII '5-reel shitstorm summoner' on special offer too? :rolleyes:
     
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  24. Jan 25, 2018
  25. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

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    Location:
    Ontario
    This game is also available at bitstarz.

    Only a few spins here so far, but I've sent a link to this thread to their rep as well.

    At bitstarz in demo:

    Start balance $500, bet $1

    17 spins

    bonus $5

    9 spins

    bonus $251.25

    14 spins

    bonus $216

    2 spins

    bonus $134.25

    Balance $1098
     
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  26. Jan 25, 2018
  27. Temprush

    Temprush Experienced Member

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    I sell "how to" these two guide money can buy " Lost it all, return from ashes" "Win-Win is it for real or not" only for 12.99$ each both 20.99$ and you will get a thumbs up with 15-35 likes on Casinomeister ;) for another 100$ you will have my support in next two treads or reply here ;)
     
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  28. Jan 25, 2018
  29. goatwack

    goatwack Calendar Time for Buddy CAG

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    Err no Jono, you're not undercutting my business :mad:

    Today's special: Bonanza Bonus Booster, helps you get bonuses over 10x every time! £59.98 today only!

    Also, be sure to include the highly acclaimed D-ream Locator to make that elusive D surface in under 500 spins guaranteed (disclaimer- it won't guarantee the other letters) Hurry, stocks low! Only £995 before VAT
     
  30. Jan 25, 2018
  31. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

    Occupation:
    Not in workforce
    Location:
    Ontario
    I play quite a bit in demo mode when I don't want or can't play in real. This is the very first game I've ever felt this way about running on reputable casinos.

    Anyone that has known me for some length of time knows that I am not part of the tin-foil hat brigade.
     
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  32. Jan 25, 2018
  33. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Nah - that was a photoshop, thought everyone knew that now :oops:
     
  34. Jan 25, 2018
  35. brianmon

    brianmon Meister Member webby mm4

    Location:
    uk
    There have been occasions where a game or even all the games of a specific provider have become unavailable at some casinos, due to server problems or whatever.
    But the demo versions have still been playable.

    I remember one occasion years ago at Jackpot Joy, when the games server went down, there were loads of people complaining in the chatrooms.
    Then someone mentioned that all the demo versions were still playable. The reply from the chat host, after consulting the management, was that the demos were run from a separate server.
    Whether it makes any difference, I don't know
     
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  36. Jan 25, 2018
  37. greylady

    greylady The more I learn, the less I know

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    Just a thought but could the demo mode not reflect a 'hot streak' like it will do at times with cash play?
     
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  38. Jan 25, 2018
  39. paul7388

    paul7388 Meister Member MM

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    Bored so googled the slot and gave it a try on demo at some site not VS tho.

    2nd spin on $1 bet bonus paid $224 . 8 spins later bonus again paid $338 .
    More than doubles 500 starting balance in 10 spins. That said it all.

    Decided to be a high roller lol raised bet to $10. Balance went down to $890 about 15 spins and got another bonus paid $1410.

    So demos totally fake on this slot.
     
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