Corrupt Online Gaming

[JAMES50]

A wonderful thread with a lot of pro's and con's...Well put with most responders..(except the few that chose to attack 4oaks for his obvious great point) But this was one of the best reading debates I've seen here..

 

[skiny]

Seriously, I think a lot of people are trying to see things that aren't there.

I think so, too.

I see dead people...

 

[Nate]

Thank you Bryan....

Personally I would have preferred being able to view what 4OAK was actually going on about like you said - It is what a Casino owner would see. I would appreciate if 4OAK rejoins this thread as I doubt he would have deleted such valuable info...

With that being said, Would you give him permission to post such info if he had it in his possession? It would be easier for us members to see and bury this once and for all...

Nate

 

[Casinomeister]

Thank you Bryan....

Personally I would have preferred being able to view what 4OAK was actually going on about like you said - It is what a Casino owner would see. I would appreciate if 4OAK rejoins this thread as I doubt he would have deleted such valuable info...

With that being said, Would you give him permission to post such info if he had it in his possession? It would be easier for us members to see and bury this once and for all...

Nate

The thing is, this is considered privileged information (the screenshots), and we've already been told by RTG that they don't want these posted. Now 4ofakind can post these at Facebook or wherever for all I care, but since we have posting rules on this site, I have to disallow them to be posted here. I hope you understand where I'm coming from.

Perhaps the next time RTG has a booth at one of the conferences, you can attend and ask a sales rep for a demonstration. I'm sure they wouldn't mind.

 

[Nate]

The thing is, this is considered privileged information (the screenshots), and we've already been told by RTG that they don't want these posted. Now 4ofakind can post these at Facebook or wherever for all I care, but since we have posting rules on this site, I have to disallow them to be posted here. I hope you understand where I'm coming from.

Perhaps the next time RTG has a booth at one of the conferences, you can attend and ask a sales rep for a demonstration. I'm sure they wouldn't mind.

Thanks again Bryan,

I am still confuddled why these screenies (although considered privileged) were nothing more than what any of us could go and see demonstrated at a Gaming Expo / Conference and why 4OAK would consider them corrupt...

I'm beginning to wonder if they were harmless and nothing but normal inner software access, what would 4OAK's motive be for coming here and pretending to see something different... or even bothering sending Bryan screenshots.

Finally i believe that 4OAK should re-enter this thread and clarify this IF HE EXPECTS US TO RESPECT HIS COMMENTS....

Nate

 

[skiny]

Finally i believe that 4OAK should re-enter this thread and clarify this IF HE EXPECTS US TO RESPECT HIS COMMENTS...
Nate

Forumtimatums!

 

[maxd]

Forumtimatums!

You might need to explain that a little, sounds like a form of Tourettes.

 

[jod5413]

I think that Nate's post meant that 4oak should come and clarify his position on this thread. That's if he wanted to be credible about his posts.

Skiny, the dear man, is making up a word to stand for ultimatums at the forum.

 

[skiny]

I think that Nate's post meant that 4oak should come and clarify his position on this thread. That's if he wanted to be credible about his posts.

Skiny, the dear man, is making up a word to stand for ultimatums at the forum.

By George, I think she's got it!

 

[jod5413]

Yeppers I do! I'm not just a pretty face, Skiny!

 

[skiny]

Yeppers I do! I'm not just a pretty face, Skiny!

Me either...

... I forget what we're actually supposed to be talking about.

 

[babysister]

Conspiracy Theory?

I have been reading casinomeister for many years and can honestly say that I have never read a post for over an hour and come away disappointed. It was interesting to read all the view points, but in the end where was the corruption? The title of this thread should have been "Conspiracy Theory, Truth or Fiction?"

But it would be interesting if the poster returned with another post with detailed information of proven casino corruption. I was hanging on the end of my seat waiting for the details of his story. Now by his last post, it sounded a little suicidal. I hope all is well.

babysister

 

[Mavin1]

A wonderful thread with a lot of pro's and con's...Well put with most responders..(except the few that chose to attack 4oaks for his obvious great point) But this was one of the best reading debates I've seen here..

I think James50 pretty much sums up why 4ofaKind abandoned the thread.

 

[felicie]

Or.....he came to a sudden understanding that this particular subject is on a need to know basis and RTG feels very strongly that we don't need to know.

 

[jod5413]

Derail...

I think James50 pretty much sums up why 4ofaKind abandoned the thread.

Once again, I have tried to resist posting at you Mavin. I told myself not to get upset with you. Your entire litany about me here was totally beyond the pale, since you pursued me to be your friend, and in fact agreed with me on certain members and certain situations. You have a really bad habit of PMing one thing and posting the opposite. You seem to have appointed yourself all knowing sage here at Casinomeister. Guess what? You definitely are not! You simply like to pretend to understand without knowing facts on occasion.

I will say no more, but.....I would suggest you find some other supposed friend to lambaste.

As for 4ofakind, he is not a person that would be intimidated by anyone, or "run off" like some have hinted of. I do believe he was upset, but I also believe he needed help. I actually am sorry for going off on him. He just wasn't wanting to be honest about his "knowledge", and seemed to think everyone would jump on board without proof.

Jod

And folks, please do not get your panties in an uproar, Mavin knows why I wrote this post, if she is willing to be honest.

End of Derail...

 

[Mavin1]

I'll get back to you.

 

[Mavin1]

Derail...



Once again, I have tried to resist posting at you Mavin. I told myself not to get upset with you. Your entire litany about me here was totally beyond the pale, since you pursued me to be your friend, and in fact agreed with me on certain members and certain situations. You have a really bad habit of PMing one thing and posting the opposite. You seem to have appointed yourself all knowing sage here at Casinomeister. Guess what? You definitely are not! You simply like to pretend to understand without knowing facts on occasion.

I will say no more, but.....I would suggest you find some other supposed friend to lambaste.

As for 4ofakind, he is not a person that would be intimidated by anyone, or "run off" like some have hinted of. I do believe he was upset, but I also believe he needed help. I actually am sorry for going off on him. He just wasn't wanting to be honest about his "knowledge", and seemed to think everyone would jump on board without proof.

Jod

And folks, please do not get your panties in an uproar, Mavin knows why I wrote this post, if she is willing to be honest.

End of Derail...

Okay, so you've been brewing because I publicly jumped on you, don't know why it should bother you so much since you do it all the time to nearly everybody else that isn't your "friend" here on the forum.

You wish to fabricate pm's between you and I? Well firstly there are only 3 people here on the forum that I may discuss certain things with regarding certain members, you're not one of them. But no matter, say what you must, if it makes you feel better. However, I have a habit of keeping all pm's and emails, would you like me to post all the conversations about painting, horses, ebay, the mother in law, alzheimers, because between you and I, there was no trust in you being a friend to confide in other matters, you were someone I was being friendly with, because it's easier than having you poke me in the ass all the time as you did during most of my membership here.

So you're pissed because you think I am trying to dethrone you, well I'm not, but you need to consider that with all the nasty approaches you throw at people that are as you say, not your friends, you too are a discredit to the forum and lack respect for what Bryan has made it to be.

So I go and post some things in a thread about US Concentration camps, pissed you off? As you had to jump in, rather than ignore it and try to rally your "friends" to mock it. No big deal, I ignored your childish attempt and moved on.

So you're probably pissed about the thread I started regarding having respect for Pina, Nifty and Nash and didn't include you. Okay, the reason is, even though they can be hard asses at times, at least they have some knowledge of the subjects being discussed to back up why they feel the way they feel, you have non of that. You are just mean and nasty and it's the same reptitive crap over and over.

As long as you have been on this forum, one would think you would have gleened something off the 3 mentioned above for counter debate. Or learned some patience and manners from posters like KK, VWM, Lauriejim, ChuChu, Robwin, Nate, Nisobar, Silc, Felicie, JustPlay and so many more I can't mention them all.

But since you wish to carry this one step further, let me post the pm you sent me and my response to you. Oh, I guess you are pissed too, because I reported your pm. Frankly, I don't deal well with any type of threats and I especially don't deal well with intimidation. But I think you are going to find that not everyone will cower when you jump in their face and and start barking at them continuously and bearing your teeth.

Throughout my life, I have been given away, abused in foster homes, beaten, starved, lived in a cave, lived in a car, nearly killed several times by my ex husband, who was a POW in Viet Nam, now deceased. So there comes a time in ones life that after you have learned a very painful lesson on how not to be to people, you decide you will also not take abuse of any kind anymore, nor always stand by silently while others are being abused.

Once you told me, in I think the Censorship thread, that I am always sticking my ass out there to be kicked, well I am what I am, but keep in mind, you do eventually run into someone that will kick back, or push them into it. So if you are always egging for a fight, best make sure you really want one.






Well

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Mavin,

I am truly surprised at your turning against me publicly. I did apologise to you a long time ago, even if you have forgotten it. I tried to be friends with you and thought we were.

The person you have become here is one of supposed maturity and rationality, being "all knowing and prescience", which is a tall order to fill. I do not hold your ignorance against you, you think you are picking the right horse to back.

I wish you the best, but I will also say that you are now a target for any stupidity you utter, not just from me but from other long time members who are a lot more knowledgeable than you are and are my friends.

Sorry you decided to pick your friends based on them being the under dog rather than for correct reasons.

Joanne
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Without Snark there is no Spark!!!....Swampwitch
Re: Well

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Joanne,

I know you don't understand why I said what I did, but I did and because I am tired of seeing people hurt by certain ways of responding.

I still think of you as a friend, despite having gotten upset with you, friends do fight sometimes and when and where it happens is just the circumstance of the moment.

Maybe, I am short towards your type of responses because of things I am dealing with in my life, such as the mom in law, which you are aware of and the husbands cancer, which you probably aren't aware of.

So if my being ignorant is how you wish to view me, then that is okay, it's your decision, we all come to a point in our lives where we make decisions to change or stay the same.

If I am now considered a target for ridicule or whatever, it is less important than worrying about the ones that are closest to me that I may lose one day.

Know this, although your post angered me, I hold no animosity towards you, I just wish you could be a little kinder to those that are seeking their way and working through issues.

Anyways, don't want to be long winded here, I wish you the best also and you will always be in my heart just the same.

Evelyn

 

[jod5413]

Ya know, Mavin, you continue to astound me. I have not been "brewing", I actually was proud of myself for considering your post to be humorous. You reported a PM I wrote? Was it hateful? I have no idea. PMs are considered to be private, almost sacrosanct. But if you think I "threatened you" go ahead and post the PM. Make sure it is actually my PM, not something you doctored. OK?

What I do know is that you are really off kilter when it comes to me. You can huff and puff, deny all you want, it doesn't faze me. I know what you said, when you said it, I even know why you said it, sad to say.

I thought about putting you on ignore, it would be the first time ever that I had to resort to that. But then I said, screw that, she is quite funny in her skewed way.

I do not report PMs, I do not bitch about other posters treating me badly. I post what I believe and then move on. I might suggest you do so also.

Final thought. You really kind of remind me of a former member here. Her name is Babs and she posted like you. In this post you talk about all your hardships like you are special because of it. Well, nope. A lot of people here have problems and do not feel the need to blab about them here. Once again, I would suggest you not go with the sympathy line. It does not work in the long run.

Mavin go live your life and put me on ignore, I am sure you would be much happier.

 

[maxd]

Looks to me like everyone needs a time-out here. Thread closed until someone contacts an Admin with a request to post something on-topic.