Resolved ChipStars vs angry mob

So I'm getting 'Deceptive tinpot casino lures in problem gamblers' vibes here. And still no UK licence, not that it even affects their modus operandi.
Having a VPN as a prerequisite to play there and cloak their methods doesn't exactly scream 'Fairness and transparency' to me, whether that's what all the cool cats do or not. I'd think they were trying to circumvent the system......because.....'they are'.

It's a no from me Carol
 
Chipstars is a Grey Zone casino at Casinomeister
This casino actually accepts UK players.

Their trick is that if you visit it from the UK, you will not see your country when registering. However, if you visit it from another country (i tried from Austria), you will see "United Kingdom" on their country menu. This is obviously made to target UK players since they use VPNs to access similar sites.
Well that is interesting. I didn't try that, but it does not necessarily mean the the UK is being targeted. At least not via us.

But then after reading this, you might as well try to sign up :p
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The UK market will be unsustainable and only the big boys will remain. Good luck with that.
 
Well that is interesting. I didn't try that, but it does not necessarily mean the the UK is being targeted. At least not via us.

But then after reading this, you might as well try to sign up :p
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The UK market will be unsustainable and only the big boys will remain. Good luck with that.
I used the wrong word. The correct meaning of that is to accept them and provide them with the opportunity to try their luck here as well. :D
 
Having read the thread with interest lol, anybody thought the the chap/lady in question might just be a UK casino rep trying to dissuade people signing up for offshore crypto casinos??
Anyway back to my white lightening.?
 
Having read the thread with interest lol, anybody thought the the chap/lady in question might just be a UK casino rep trying to dissuade people signing up for offshore crypto casinos??
Anyway back to my white lightening.?
How could you even imply that their intentions weren't pure, and call this act of kindness agenda-laden? Are you saying rivals could even think of besmirching their competitors as some form of industrial sabotage? :p
 
Well I played here so they did accept UK players.

Good experience overall. Got paid out in minutes unlike some UKGC casinos that held my withdrawals at ransome due to checks.

I know my preference where to play!
 
Well I played here so they did accept UK players.

Good experience overall. Got paid out in minutes unlike some UKGC casinos that held my withdrawals at ransome due to checks.

I know my preference where to play!
Yep on withdraws - I had a gamble a few days back at a certain "offshore crypto" casino. Enjoyed the autoplay - turbo spin - bonus buys (although don't usually do them) high rtps - and then managing to cash out it was in my wallet instantly. No hassle. Everything that UK facing casinos are now not. Dont understand why people even bother with UK online now - with the SOW / Heavy handed KYC and low RTPs. And just wait until the max bet rule comes in - they wont be many left that are UK Facing.
 
I no longer have any disagreements or reservations whatsoever in this respect or otherwise towards Chipstars.bet and I take back all negative comments that I have made in previous statements
 
As a once member of a Chipstars.bet player, i can assure you they are scammers, as a once player of this casino, i was not told or declined that this casino is not allowed in Austria to play thus not having the Austrian Licence, and the only licence in Austria that is approved is the site win2day, which i found out later and too late, as of this, once i found it out and i found it out listing through instagram and seeing the ad that says ( take back your casino losts ) from the company of lawyers in Austria that work for the players that have played in any other casinos rather than win2day and take back they’re deposits minus the winnings, as of then i have contacted the VIP Manager od Chipstars casino named Danilo, if that is true and could we arrange something so that i should not take it in that serious matter with this company ( which is not the only company that does this for the players in Austria ) , he immediately blocked my account and didnt answer for days, and when he did answer, he only said its my right to do that, and i asked him one more time, at which he responded ( also after days ) : “my username” we are finished talking, good luck.
And we are talking here about a 5000€ minus the winnings, and this VIP Manager even asked me once, am i from Austria, which i replied yes, he didnt once told me that it isnt allowed, even though they dont block your IP and even though they are admitting that they are allowed in Austria and that they have Austrian licence for the players to be able to play, which i now have chat proof that they admitted that they do have, even though they dont and cant have.
 
They are scammers, fully confirmed with every proof of it, everyone that gambles there, please i repeat, please stop and withdraw any money that you have left in account and faster as possible, they are not normal, they are the lowest of the lowest.
 
the casino said that they had the licence which they are accepting players from Austria, which they absolutely dont have and i have every right to get my deposits minus the winnings back.

Because with my registration, and not notifying me or even that it said that Austria is not allowed, therefore they refused their own T&C and allowed the players to play there, they should block every IP from Austrian players. They knew right from the start of registration that i was from Austria, and they are stating :

if it becomes apparent to them that iam a resident in a country in which the use of the Website is not legal they have to immediately close my account. Which they didnt do, and allowed me to deposit somewhat of 9000-10000€ , ( 5000€ if you do minus the winning) , and play there for over 5 months at which i found out alone that iam not allowed to play there and it is ilegal for them to let me play.

Section 168 of the Austrian Criminal Code (Strafgesetzbuch, "StGB") includes a prohibition on organising and/or promoting gambling without a licence according to the GSpG. Section 52 GSpG also contains a catalogue of administrative criminal offences subject to fines of up to EUR 22,000 or even EUR 60,000 in case of the provision of illegal gambling.

I have tried to be in contact with a Casino but with no luck of more information, it is still 20 days ago that i requested my deposit lists and i have not yet received them, and the Casino said that we will be continuing this conversation on Casino Guru. So…This law is in Austria applied. Sorry if it is in German but that is the statement.

Das Monopol zum Anbieten von Onlineglücksspielen liegt bis zum Jahr 2027 bei win2day, einer Tochter der österreichischen Lotterien. Alle anderen Betreiber – darunter auch bwin – bieten ihre Online-Glücksspiele in Österreich ohne Lizenz an, das Finanzministerium klassifiziert diese Unternehmen auf profil-Anfrage wörtlich als „illegal".



And continuing to state their therms of Use:

21.2 Where You are in breach of the Terms of Use, we may at our sole discretion, prior to any suspension or termination of Your Account, notify You (using Your Contact Details) that You are in breach, requiring You to stop the relevant act or failure to act, and/or requiring You to put right an act or fault on Your part and warning You of our intended action if You do not do so, provided always that such notification shall not be a pre-condition to any suspension or termination of Your Account.



I wasnt even once contacted about it, nor did anyone notify me that its illegal to use their Website, and upon asking about it i was immediately blocked and suspenden ( ofcourse) and received a reply 3 days after, not even stating that they were in the wrong and nor apologizing to me.



Continuing:

CONTRACTING PARTIES

3.1 We may need to change the Terms of Use from time to time for a number of reasons, including (without limitation) for commercial reasons, to comply with law or regulations, to comply with instructions, guidance or recommendations from a regulatory body, or for customer service reasons. The most up-to-date Terms of Use can be accessed from the Terms and Conditions link in the footer section of the Website, and the date on which they will come into force is noted in paragraph 1.8 of these General Terms.



They upon this Term changed the regulation and deleted it completely out of their T&C which states ( with screenshot):

8.3 If it becommes apparent to us that You are resident in a country in which the use of the Website is not legal, we have to immediately close your Account.



That statement applied to me all through this time, and they allowed me to Register, Verify me through ID and Adress which clearly stated that i live in Austria, allowed me to deposit fairly said more or less around 5017€ ( minus the winnings ) .

And this T&C Statement screenshot was made on 29.11.2023 09:20.

With that in mind, my account was blocked upon notifying the VIP Manager about the illegal use of the website, and that was on 15.11.2023 21:18 ( Austrian time) , in which i was stating that it is illegal to use their website from my country,

IF it is Legal, i wouldnt be blocked and would be notified that everything is in Regulation and according to laws, in which case i would be able to continue gambling there normally. ( Which of course they know it is Illegal ),

and here i must provide the Chat Messages with Live Support stating that, the use of their Website is Legal in Austria in which case they know it is Illegal and know about it and breaching their own T&C therefore
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misleading the players

. ( Screenshots of 28.11.2023 at 22:11 - Austrian Time)
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I no longer have any disagreements or reservations whatsoever in this respect or otherwise towards Chipstars.bet and I take back all negative comments that I have made in previous statements
 
I no longer have any disagreements or reservations whatsoever in this respect or otherwise towards Chipstars.bet and I take back all negative comments that I have made in previous statements
I wonder why? :laugh:
 
Chipstars is a Grey Zone casino at Casinomeister

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