CasinoRoom source of income problems for self-employed

[dunover]

It's a real thing. There are many people out their working free lance in the online world (Graphic Design, Website and other things) while they travel the world. My point which I admit was poorly made is being self employed in today's world doesn't always mean being a plumber or shop owner but encompasses a whole host of other jobs including the online world.

Yes, effectively I'm a freelancer, self-employed with many different income sources and travel the world, well Europe lol.

 

[ev4me]

Thanks all for the feedback. Looks like there's no real way around this. It's their casino. Maybe I can get someone else there to double check with them, someone who knows their job better.

It's funny how this thread somehow evolved to politics, but thinking about it, it is the EU that created this whole mess in the first place. They just want more rules, regs and paperwork out of everyone, and to control us all, despite not even being democratically elected. But that's not even the main reason I'm bitter with them.

*snip*

 

[Dinahnana]

Yes, effectively I'm a freelancer, self-employed with many different income sources and travel the world, well Europe lol.

A digital nomad is somebody who travels full time away from their home country. People like yourself who have non-traditional jobs though are the ones that get hit hardest judging by the thread I just read. That leads me to conclude that the idiots who came up with these laws don't know how the internet works. Bryan did make a very good point in that thread though. SOW's ought to be done by the UKCG in the UK where players can be assured that their submitted data is safe and also understand the new data protection laws. Casinos should not have access to anything other than proof of debit/credit card, ewallets and Id's and proof of address and that is that. God save us from the bureaucrats.

 

[ternur]

I think it might just come down to bad training in some casinos and maybe misinterpreting the EU directive. In all fairness though these stupid EU directives are prime for misinterpretation due to their vagueness. So red tape rules I guess.

Not picking on you @osulle, just using your post as a reference point

While it is true in many cases, that EU directives are somewhat vague, it should be noted that a directive is primarly a legislative instruction in achieving a desired result. Anti-money laundering rules are global and the standars are mostly set by FATF. Being a member in the EU or not has little to do with it.

When it comes to online casinos, there's always the licensing authority angle. It doesn't help, that the AML requirements are often tied together with RG regulations (by the regulators). And then used as a license requirement.

I do agree that some operators confuse AML and RG. Or they don't, but are lacking in informing the player of their reasons for requesting documents. The big problem is the way RG is used as an indication or suspicion of illegal activities (ML). The whole AML system is built on the consept of "guilty unless proven innocent". But the whole RG aspect gambling has nothing to do with illegal activies of the player. It's somewhat an ambidextrous way for the society to allow and frown upon gambling at the same time.

It would be great, if the regulators made a clearer distinction between these issues.

It seems that the OP's case was classified under RG at the operator's end. That would make it an issue mostly relating to licensing requirements, which really has little to with the EU or AML regulations as such.

The "steady income" argument used by Casinoroom is OP's situation is a moot point. When did it come necessary to have "steady income" to play in a casino? The same problem comes with recycling winnings. If the funds are clear and not of illegal origin, then it should be up to the adult individual to choose how they spend them. It should not be up to any operator and neither any regulator. Problem gambling should be dealt with in another manner.

 

[ternur]

You get really decent people from all backgrounds, but I saw this image recently and it saddened me greatly:

Care to elaborate on that statement?

 

[ev4me]

Care to elaborate on that statement?

*snip*

 

[ternur]

I don't get it.

How does this relate to the issue you had with Casinoroom?

You said it makes you sad that "white people" are becoming minorities. I'm trying to understand your reasoning and purpose of this agenda on a casino related thread.

 

[ev4me]

How does this relate to the issue you had with Casinoroom?

Oh I see. The thread was already going off topic with the EU stuff, so it was just in response to that.

My original concern with CasinoRoom still stands of course.

 

[slot_zombie]

Not sure why anyone would want to play at Casinoroom in any case.

Not only is the site laggy, but worse than that, they run Play & Go slots on the reduced RTP setting of under 95%.

 

[pinnit2014]

Last time i looked their wagering was something mad at 100x and restricted to certain, crappy, slots. Not played in probably close to two years.

 

[nikantw]

All I want to say at this point is don't leave, stay in and fight with:
Democracy in Europe Movement 2025

 

[kunjuice92]

Not sure why anyone would want to play at Casinoroom in any case.

Not only is the site laggy, but worse than that, they run Play & Go slots on the reduced RTP setting of under 95%.

How can a casino change the rtp of games like this ? Isnt this illegal ?

 

[nikantw]

How can a casino change the rtp of games like this ? Isnt this illegal ?

Some providers offer different RTP settings, PnG is one of them.

 

[kunjuice92]

Can you tell me which providers ? So I avoid them lol

 

[slot_zombie]

How can a casino change the rtp of games like this ? Isnt this illegal ?

There was a big thread about this already, but there is a growing dungheap of white label and independent UKGC-Licensed casinos offering reduced slots payouts. Only way you can tell (if in the UK) is to check the game help files. As a rule of thumb, if they're hiding the RTP in demo play prior to sign up, it's probably the dreaded reduced RTP.

Sites from Aspire Global (AG Communications), Progress Play, Genesis, Ellmount are among ones to avoid regarding this dodgy practice, but there are many other bad guys out there too.

What's more disappointing is that "affiliates" (cough, cough) are happy to promote them for a buck, but won't mention that you'll lose more faster if you sign up to those places. Maybe it's better for them, if they're on rev share.