BTG feature buys no longer in the UK

Anyone who thinks there is no difference between a £100 bonus buy and a £100 for a spin I suspect does not quite understand the difference in psychology or addictive nature between the two. Bonus buy gives you instant grantification. You are getting to what most perceive to be the point of slots in general in the bonus round without the tedium of spinning to get it. This satisfies the urge to get to the "exciting bit" quickly and repeatedly for a significant cost.

I realise most cannot go anywhere near £100/spin, or even £5/spin which seems to be the standard these days on YouTube and it is far less aluring. I mean we all know how brutal most slots these days can be at <£1 per spin so the urge to go to £5 and higher is probably lower even for those who gamble a lot. Of course there are people for whom this will still be an irresistable urge but for those people I'd suggest removing of the bonus buys will pretty much be a meaningless act.
 
Big payouts or big losses. Bonus buys were made at the average cost of triggering the bonus for a particular game so in the end it's the exact same.

I'm in Canada BTW, not Norway.

Nope you were in the Walking Dead, one of the best characters also IMO, better than the dross it has become these days!

*Yes CM community, end of week, over tired, bored etc you got it!
 
Another thing would be that for some players, the bonus buy is more than enough, and may just be used a couple of times.

Say someone buys two bonuses at £100 then 'calls it a day'. There's nothing to suggest that a punter has to go on a feature-buy spending spree just because they've splurged on a couple.

Said player could however spent way above the stated £200 (relevant to the stake size of the bonus we're talking about) chasing one bonus, nevermind two. So where does the UKGC stand on players chasing bonuses, beyond their means, that a guaranteed (& 'budgeted) feature purchase didn't already provide?

Oh that's right, I forgot. They haven't a clue what they're actually doing!
 
Absolutely LOVE the UKGC is stepping in and removing the bonus buys. I truly wish others would step in and do it too. As a matter of fact I might message all the other commissions and tell them they should get on board.

Well done UKGC!

Why? Maybe you have a gambling issue and can't deal with bonus buys, but don't take it out on everyone else. There are players who enjoy bonus buys in a responsible way.

Going out of your way to influence the other commissions to remove the bonus buy choice for everyone makes you look like a sad and salty person. I like having the choice to buy a low stake bonus from time to time, and i have never done my bollocks in doing bonus buys. Why don't you want me and others like me to be able to buy a bonus from time to time?
 
Totally agree.

I didn’t do it often but I’d occasionally buy white rabbit bonuses and the odd chilli ones.
Along with a few of the blueprints here and there. It was all low stakes.

Just like I enjoy going out regularly for a few beers with my mates. But just because there’s a few alcoholics dotted about it doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to do that either.

Eventually we’ll just be left with our own bookie online sites as the rest of the uk facing online casinos will just turn their back on the UK market if they start getting made to reduce this or prevent that etc etc. Won’t be worth the extra hassle along with the already increased taxes I believe they now have to pay. We’ve already seen a few turn their backs on us I believe?

Will it be a max stake next?? That will pretty much kill the industry won’t it? Then these lot will all be out of a job anyway.
 
Totally agree.

I didn’t do it often but I’d occasionally buy white rabbit bonuses and the odd chilli ones.
Along with a few of the blueprints here and there. It was all low stakes.

Just like I enjoy going out regularly for a few beers with my mates. But just because there’s a few alcoholics dotted about it doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to do that either.

Eventually we’ll just be left with our own bookie online sites as the rest of the uk facing online casinos will just turn their back on the UK market if they start getting made to reduce this or prevent that etc etc. Won’t be worth the extra hassle along with the already increased taxes I believe they now have to pay. We’ve already seen a few turn their backs on us I believe?

Will it be a max stake next?? That will pretty much kill the industry won’t it? Then these lot will all be out of a job anyway.

Some sites are leaving/have left the swedish market for what i guess is the same reason.
Over-regulation makes the casinos scared of getting hit with fines, and the whole "no bonus" thing we got going on here in sweden makes it hard for any site to stand out from all the others.
The "Spelpaus" (gamban) is a good thing, but really its just a play for the gallery.
It might help some people kick the habit, but the real problem gamblers will just go outside swedish regulation and play on sites not affected by Spelpaus.

Im mostly salty about the no-bonus thing, because i frequently used deposit bonuses to increase my playtime.
100-200% bonuses can extend the playtime for a lowroller like me alot.
Sure, i probably had less cash-outs back then compared to now when all my deposits are raw cash.
But i also got more play-time out of less money, and so far it has come out pretty even win/loss wise.
 
I don't see any money left? on 50p spins!!!


You very well may have no money left but your RTP would not have been 0% on 4000 spins at 50p etc.

I would suggest you learn ( look into ) how RTP is calculated and works before playing more into slots, as you don't seem to understand what im saying or how RTP works?

For you to have 0% RTP you would have had to have won nothing at all from all those spins?
 
I’ve not mentioned anything about the bonus buy ban yet, primarily because I didn’t know how I felt about it.

I regularly bought a White Rabbit bonus at £10 a go. WR is very good for giving you something back in the bonus, a bad one would be in the range of £3-£4 back, quite often it would return £7 or so, but more often than not it paid more than I paid for it. Sometimes significantly more.

I also regularly bought Chilli bonuses, but usually when the coin buy had brought the price down a bit. If I was up for the session, I’d do a couple at full price but only at 20p/£10. Chilli was quite fond of paying zero bonuses so to go higher would be madness.

Its been a very profitable strategy for me, and I am pretty annoyed after all that they’ve taken a sledge hammer to it.

In which universe is it acceptable to remove a bonus buy at £1-£20 stake but still allow the player to spin at £40-£100 a go? I really don’t get it.

@Big Time Gaming, you mentioned earlier in the thread you were going to ask about acceptable bonus buy stakes, have you got anywhere with that yet?

I find it ludicrous for example that the bonus buy in Chilli can go down to £1.50 yet I’m not allowed to buy it, but I can up the stakes to £40 for normal spins and spin away until the cows come home.

Preventing crazily high bets I do understand, but this ruling has not even achieved that :mad:
 
It's done 100% by the UKGC to remove the elephant in the room, namely Feature Buys (= evil) whilst allowing equally ludicrous options for players to lose all their money in the form of bets of £20 UPWARDS

The thing with censorship is you either remove it all or none, the clue's in the title, i.e gambling......once they've neutered this pastime into a limp husk of its former self no one will actually want to do it anymore!

What did need removing was the 'gamble your feature' err Feature, that's outright scummy tactics by designers really. Bet that's still intact in Chilli? I'm happy to be corrected on that one

Yet best way forward to make gambling safe & risk-free are a few ideas of my own, for the (not biased) UKGC to implement in future. They are:

1) Mandatory loss limits at login

2) A designated friendly personal advisor per session, to keep an eye on you, whilst also 'cheering you on' from the sidelines when the slots are hawt

3) 5- second delays between spins, to keep you grounded

4) Compulsory telephonic interviews with your employer, to get an idea of not only your income, but the sort of person you are and how you react to stressful scenarios. Unemployed procariat are banned outright as how dare they gamble

5) Casinos conducting face-to-face interviews with your parents and/ or next of kin, to get your life history. Also to detect any likely future recurring problems

6) Limit game selection to 3 games. Starburst, Da Vinci's Diamonds & Lights

7) Payments on winnings can only be done via Postal Order, thus decreasing the urge to splurge

8) Remove your hands, making spinning somewhat tricky
 
I've always said white rabbit is the most 'assured' of the bonus buys. Better distribution of RTP IMO- a bit more volatility in the base game allows a rejig of the maths.

These blueprint bonanza type clones with bonus buys are just pure tedium in base game and downright questionable in the buys. If you're buying in for 100x you shouldn't be getting 10x-30x back with the regularity they seem to do. Their maths models are all wrong in my opinion.
 
It's done 100% by the UKGC to remove the elephant in the room, namely Feature Buys (= evil) whilst allowing equally ludicrous options for players to lose all their money in the form of bets of £20 UPWARDS

The thing with censorship is you either remove it all or none, the clue's in the title, i.e gambling......once they've neutered this pastime into a limp husk of its former self no one will actually want to do it anymore!

What did need removing was the 'gamble your feature' err Feature, that's outright scummy tactics by designers really. Bet that's still intact in Chilli? I'm happy to be corrected on that one

Yet best way forward to make gambling safe & risk-free are a few ideas of my own, for the (not biased) UKGC to implement in future. They are:

1) Mandatory loss limits at login

2) A designated friendly personal advisor per session, to keep an eye on you, whilst also 'cheering you on' from the sidelines when the slots are hawt

3) 5- second delays between spins, to keep you grounded

4) Compulsory telephonic interviews with your employer, to get an idea of not only your income, but the sort of person you are and how you react to stressful scenarios. Unemployed procariat are banned outright as how dare they gamble

5) Casinos conducting face-to-face interviews with your parents and/ or next of kin, to get your life history. Also to detect any likely future recurring problems

6) Limit game selection to 3 games. Starburst, Da Vinci's Diamonds & Lights

7) Payments on winnings can only be done via Postal Order, thus decreasing the urge to splurge

8) Remove your hands, making spinning somewhat tricky


How would you cater for unemployed that are millionaires ?? Only asking as i'm mates with one one :D
 
Overall the bonus buy features were scarily addictive, particularly Chilli. How many times have you lost the first gamble and thought..."I need to keep buying to get to 16+ spins" only to have the piss ripped out of you. For me it makes slots slots again, none of the cutting corners. Actually think we may see a lot more deposit bonuses as a result as well.
 
Also on the UKGC approach...its the right thing to do. They removed all red tape and compliance at the behest of the then Labour government who ironically are dead against online gambling now. I engage with them regularly and they are not trying to kill things but there are literally thousands of complaints to them regarding these bonus buys so they need to so something
 
Does anyone know when Extra Chilli will be available to play? I'm not bothered about the buying spines feature.. Just quite like the game!
 
Why? Maybe you have a gambling issue and can't deal with bonus buys, but don't take it out on everyone else. There are players who enjoy bonus buys in a responsible way.

Going out of your way to influence the other commissions to remove the bonus buy choice for everyone makes you look like a sad and salty person. I like having the choice to buy a low stake bonus from time to time, and i have never done my bollocks in doing bonus buys. Why don't you want me and others like me to be able to buy a bonus from time to time?

I dont have a gambling issue at all and I am not taking it out on anyone else. I am not sad nor salty. My post was rather positive and you seem to be the salty one. Do you always cry your eyes out when people have different opinions?
 
If any UK players are desperate to buy an 'Extra Chilli' bonus. I've just been playing at Volt casino. They still have the buy option, for some reason.
 

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