BTG Extra Chilli Buy A Feature Review/Experience/Concern

dogshead1

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I'll leave this here for you all to make up your own conclusions on the slot. Defo made me quit online gambling. Action certainly needs to be taken as I have my views and points I've expressed outside of this forum and shall keep outside.
FYI

My original strategy was to gamble to 16 spins, attempt to gamble and collect 12 if lost the 16 and and gamble to 20 if +4 dropped in on the buy. Finally after multiple loss of return at 16-20 spins even 1x 24 and extreme crippling of my balance I was forced to gamble and pray for 12 without success multiple time. What I can recall from last nights session. After I collected however many spins and I gambled the next for 12 I lost every time. It certainly felt compensated but also had that feeling of preempting the behavior of the gamble wheel. The risk for reward strategy advised by BTG clearly crippled my bankroll.

As an overall experience and warning to others my starting balance was my biggest every online coup from other slots. I was unable to withdraw at the time even when verified and within the stated max withdrawal limit per week as day limit was not stated and support that was advertised as 24 hour was offline. I'll admit taking on chilling was a lack of control on my behalf but the file here when broken down will highlight how its set up to tilt the player and induce larger risk for no reward.

Unfortunately although I have requested it, they would not show at what point of the wheel I lost the feature. Though you can clearly see by the behavior of the returns that something is off.

Finally I have requested why the casino operator refer to Extra Chilli as an NYX game which I find concerning and alarming. This you can clearly see in the betting history file.
 

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Jono777

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So how does that work and where can this agreement be found?

Unsure mate, only have a basic understanding.

From what I do understand, all game providers and developers need a platform to run their games.

For example, Jurassic Park is made by Microgaming but runs via the Quickfire platform which is the logo you will see while the game is loading.

WMS games run via their own Platform Scientific Games (SG) again displayed during loading process.

Similar set up with Chilli, WWTBAM, Bonanza etc running at certain casinos via NYX platorm, in BTG's case tho they have also recently started using the Quickfire platform which you will maybe notice during load times at casino 'x' or 'z'......

Edit: From their website

About Big Time Gaming:

Big Time Gaming is the thought leader in slot development, providing the world's largest online casino operators with its revolutionary OMNI product range. Big Time Gaming continues to lead the charge with its most recent release White Rabbit, breaking all other providers previous records in turnover since its launch last month. Big Time Gaming has a growing portfolio of innovative slots and games available through a wide range of network partners including NYX, OpenBet, Microgaming Viper, Microgaming Quickfire and Leander.
 

aceking123

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its like micro gaming allowing the new BTG games on there servers . im thinking its no different. just a plugin kinda deal.
 

Reelsoffun

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I'll leave this here for you all to make up your own conclusions on the slot. Defo made me quit online gambling. Action certainly needs to be taken as I have my views and points I've expressed outside of this forum and shall keep outside.
FYI

My original strategy was to gamble to 16 spins, attempt to gamble and collect 12 if lost the 16 and and gamble to 20 if +4 dropped in on the buy. Finally after multiple loss of return at 16-20 spins even 1x 24 and extreme crippling of my balance I was forced to gamble and pray for 12 without success multiple time. What I can recall from last nights session. After I collected however many spins and I gambled the next for 12 I lost every time. It certainly felt compensated but also had that feeling of preempting the behavior of the gamble wheel. The risk for reward strategy advised by BTG clearly crippled my bankroll.

As an overall experience and warning to others my starting balance was my biggest every online coup from other slots. I was unable to withdraw at the time even when verified and within the stated max withdrawal limit per week as day limit was not stated and support that was advertised as 24 hour was offline. I'll admit taking on chilling was a lack of control on my behalf but the file here when broken down will highlight how its set up to tilt the player and induce larger risk for no reward.

Unfortunately although I have requested it, they would not show at what point of the wheel I lost the feature. Though you can clearly see by the behavior of the returns that something is off.

Finally I have requested why the casino operator refer to Extra Chilli as an NYX game which I find concerning and alarming. This you can clearly see in the betting history file.


Well you didnt really explain all your data other than what you gambled on the log, but I have done loads of feature buys of various buy amounts and over 17,000 spins and found the gamble wheel close to expected probability and the RTP won is a bit above theoretical as well, so why cant it just be luck?

Chillistrip.jpg
 

chiya

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Well you didnt really explain all your data other than what you gambled on the log, but I have done loads of feature buys of various buy amounts and over 17,000 spins and found the gamble wheel close to expected probability and the RTP won is a bit above theoretical as well, so why cant it just be luck.

Because he lost badly so it MUST be rigged. Your RTP in the game, nor his RTP in the game are nothing to make conclusions of. The theoretical RTP is based on millions of spins, no?
 

paul7388

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Seriously its been a month and you are still banging on about this slot and how rigged it is.

The problem seems to lie with you and not the slot. You are the one that is chasing losses and gambling stupid stakes away to nothing. Just because you had a crazy bad run at stupid stakes does not been anything is up with the slot.

But after way you chased losses and blew so much trying to recoup those losses and now blame the slot for being rigged then i am glad at least it has made you quit online gambling.
 

dogshead1

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Unsure mate, only have a basic understanding.

From what I do understand, all game providers and developers need a platform to run their games.

For example, Jurassic Park is made by Microgaming but runs via the Quickfire platform which is the logo you will see while the game is loading.

WMS games run via their own Platform Scientific Games (SG) again displayed during loading process.

Similar set up with Chilli, WWTBAM, Bonanza etc running at certain casinos via NYX platorm, in BTG's case tho they have also recently started using the Quickfire platform which you will maybe notice during load times at casino 'x' or 'z'......

Edit: From their website

About Big Time Gaming:

Big Time Gaming is the thought leader in slot development, providing the world's largest online casino operators with its revolutionary OMNI product range. Big Time Gaming continues to lead the charge with its most recent release White Rabbit, breaking all other providers previous records in turnover since its launch last month. Big Time Gaming has a growing portfolio of innovative slots and games available through a wide range of network partners including NYX, OpenBet, Microgaming Viper, Microgaming Quickfire and Leander.

A news report I just picked out: (Gives you food for thought and why I don;t trust the software, platforms or casinos)

This was reported 2016

A month after announcing the
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from Vitruvian Partners LLP,
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Gaming has released a statement confirming that the £270 million deal is now finalised.

Nyx was joined in the deal by co-investment partners
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, who chipped in £80m, and Sky Betting and Gaming, who contributed £20m. The agreement will see Nyx Gaming clear £95 million in debt that
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currently owes, in addition to acquiring OpenBet's platform that hosts an extensive portfolio of over 2000 online casino games from various developers. The deal boosts Nyx's workforce to over 1100 employees that are now based in 14 countries around the world.

In a solid example of corporate buzzword-lingo, Nyx CEO Matt Davey remarked "Today is an exciting day for Nyx as we look to the next phase of the company's growth. We now turn our focus to planning and executing the strategy to leverage the collective strengths and benefits of scale that the combined business brings to our customers and shareholders." Bingo!
 

goatwack

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It is true with this and WWTBAM that if the 8 want to pay, they will. Gambling away for four or more spins is not worth the grief to be fair. Gambled one time to 12 for a laugh, only to recoup 24 pence. Was worth it :what:

Also had most of my best hits on Bonanza & co round about the 6x multiplier, so the whole feature is just an unnecessary risk and should be avoided if one wants to remain sane :eek2:
 

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Not from you anyway lol.

As for street battle don,t even think i had ever got a win on that slot before. But thought should get 25 spins reward. Then when i logged in this morning was like WTF how did i get 75 spins. Used them anyway lol.

:) yes that was a pretty good score 180K or something
 

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A news report I just picked out: (Gives you food for thought and why I don;t trust the software, platforms or casinos)

This was reported 2016

A month after announcing the
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from Vitruvian Partners LLP,
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Gaming has released a statement confirming that the £270 million deal is now finalised.

Nyx was joined in the deal by co-investment partners
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, who chipped in £80m, and Sky Betting and Gaming, who contributed £20m. The agreement will see Nyx Gaming clear £95 million in debt that
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
currently owes, in addition to acquiring OpenBet's platform that hosts an extensive portfolio of over 2000 online casino games from various developers. The deal boosts Nyx's workforce to over 1100 employees that are now based in 14 countries around the world.

In a solid example of corporate buzzword-lingo, Nyx CEO Matt Davey remarked "Today is an exciting day for Nyx as we look to the next phase of the company's growth. We now turn our focus to planning and executing the strategy to leverage the collective strengths and benefits of scale that the combined business brings to our customers and shareholders." Bingo!

I don't understand? Why would that stop anyone trusting them?
 

dogshead1

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Well you didnt really explain all your data other than what you gambled on the log, but I have done loads of feature buys of various buy amounts and over 17,000 spins and found the gamble wheel close to expected probability and the RTP won is a bit above theoretical as well, so why cant it just be luck?

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So boring you are. There is not one tracking software out there that records your stats when you buy the feature! Secondly not one person has even read the file I posted. All gang up and defend the slot and BTG call me a bad loser I'm past caring. I'm no bad loser just a guy who has been caught up in the farce of a game it is. Yes it's addictive so is gambling full stop can't tell me otherwise. There were multiple factors that led me to get sucked into the game for starters last night which none apart from one person here knows of. For multiple reasons that could have been different I would have been £4500 better off and not even entertained Chilli. That is a matter only one person here know's of also.

I have taken liberty to to share my experience with all knowing dam well the post will get trolled by the haters at large including yourself with no real coarse to your posts! Like I stated if you breakdown the behavior of the game within the 24 hour period and is a large sample size which was actually a little under 8 hours broken is way off and unfair. There is no randomness to it but pure one way robbery.

You guys wanted stats I've posted them real live data! There clearly is reason why they casino wont provide a full detailed report as to the gamble wheel and at which point I collected what spins or gambled on etc. Same reason the BTG rep has still refused to acknowledge my request for such data so I can present to you guys.

That file alone I've posted proves that the gamble is way unfair. Sure there was 11 or 12 straight losses and that was at 50/50. This is where players like myself get roped in. Then get sucked in even more when your only getting 10-90% return of you buy amount almost every time when you finally get 16-20 spins. Its clearly designed to pray on gambling addicts and emotion at the time.

Even more concerning BTG actually promote players to take the gamble feature. Clearly taking advantage and promoting irresponsible gambling.

I loved online slotting until this slot came out but now its ruined it. The very reason is everything it promotes but does not deliver plays on your emotions and catches more than just myself. Many a silent gambler will have suffered the same fate and many more will.

I just want to advise to stay away from this game.
 

goatwack

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Gamble Features aren't the main part of the game, just a shortcut to the good stuff.

Blew £60 leftover winnings on White Rabbit fairly recently and got well and truly stuffed, though I managed to get maybe 15 rounds out of it.

But then I knew it would do me over, given that I'd have to get 100x just to bloody break even. It's fool's gold and unfortunately not a get-rich-quick scheme :(
 

dogshead1

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What exactly does this show? That a platform provider is consolidating?

It raises eyebrows. They are not only working with NYX but Open Bet too whom where bailed out of 95 million pounds worth of BY NYX. Surely there is a conflict of interest here business wise. But hey ho all get brushed under the carpet in online forums as we never really know who we are talking to do we? Pokerstars have become so corrupt after they merged with Full Tilt Poker who ripped off players for millions. Just Saying!
 
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