Brexit - whats the difference.....

[ChopleyIOM]

Slightly desperate update from the UK government. It is the world's worst kept secret that UK businesses are not ready for Brexit, they have been battered badly by Covid-19, they don't even know what the future trading relationship with the EU is going to be, but are still being told to prepare for it. They are literally being told to prepare for something that does not yet exist.

There is a sentiment amongst many businesses that in a No Deal Brexit, or a Shit Deal Brexit, they're just going to throw in the towel, as Covid-19 has already pushed many of them to the brink.

The failure to extend the transition period is going to bite this government on the arse very, very badly.

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[dunover]

Slightly desperate update from the UK government. It is the world's worst kept secret that UK businesses are not ready for Brexit, they have been battered badly by Covid-19, they don't even know what the future trading relationship with the EU is going to be, but are still being told to prepare for it. They are literally being told to prepare for something that does not yet exist.

There is a sentiment amongst many businesses that in a No Deal Brexit, or a Shit Deal Brexit, they're just going to throw in the towel, as Covid-19 has already pushed many of them to the brink.

The failure to extend the transition period is going to bite this government on the arse very, very badly.

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Yes, it's a mess.
P.S. Love the Private Eye magazine, quite a lot in there, long read, they don't pull punches! Look forward to it each fortnight. And I finished this editions' cryptic crossword, may win £100...

 

[Slottery]

Wouldn't worry too much, don't forget:

"The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets,"

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Yes, it's a mess.
P.S. Love the Private Eye magazine, quite a lot in there, long read, they don't pull punches! Look forward to it each fortnight. And I finished this editions' cryptic crossword, may win £100...

It's a good read isn't it? And a surprising number of words in each issue, on a wide variety of topics.

The cartoons are excellent too.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Just a brief heads-up.

Last night, the UK Parliament legislated away protection for UK food standards in future trade deals.

 

[pinnit2014]

I look forward to my Chicken, fresh from completing 10 lengths of the local swimming pool.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

And for the record, here's what Liz Truss said in the Commons in March of this year.

So either we're going to stand up to the big bullies over in the USA and get our own way in a trade deal, (LOL), or it turns out it's another Big Fat Brexit Lie and the government legislated as it did last night to make that lie become a reality.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The government has marched UK businesses up and down the No Deal Brexit hill several times already, the IT systems and lorry capacity operations are not finished, the future trading relationship with the EU is still unknown, UK Plc is still reeling from the devastating body blow of Covid-19, we're in recession at a time of rising unemployment, the government had the option to extend the transition period but chose not to.

Government minister concludes it'll be businesses' own fault if they suffer as a result of Brexit.

Ahhhhh, those sunlit uplands where we hold all the cards.

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[Slottery]

Many have prepared quite well and made fortunes with Brexit. It can't be 100% surprise that there's is chance called "no deal Brexit" happening, i think all i've been affecting (customer of Revolut) asked me to agree to new T&C:s over one and half year ago and changed my IBAN to be not UK one (that IBAN change happened just little while ago but was well informed about it beforehand).

So if you totally have missed to do anything and been only 100% sure that nothing gonna change, it's bit of own fault as well if there's nothing done by now for "no deal" option, it's been on everywhere and it haven't been really hard to see that there is need to some backup plan for that.

If you been just having your head in sand and remembering stories about owen ready deal, you can really bit blame yourself already as well (if you run international business and haven't done anything).

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Oh well, we can take some small comfort from the fact that in its new role as 'massive lorry park', Kent will at least be receiving some glamorous new facilities.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Looks like those who 'knew they were voting for no deal', or indeed, 'I wanted no deal when I voted leave' have a good chance of finding out what it means in reality.

Enjoy!

Shame about that 'oven ready deal' that people voted for at the general election though.

 

[TheAddict]

Listening to the Boris at the now since the bbc news is on and i cba to go to the other side of the room to change the channel to, literally pretty much fkng anything other than the bbc news.
He's been rabbiting on about a lot of shit and has managed it even without a stutter, But still, all I can concentrate on is what he might look like with a grade 2 instead of that mop on his head.

Seems to be something about Manchester United and Liverpool. Looks like Cornwall might even be joining the prem. The multiple signs provided infront of each speaker for the audience incase they forget which direction the male and female toilets are, with accompanying reminders to wash hands after was a pretty thoughtful touch. Only the PM of Britain would take it one step further and be so thoughtful after dropping a depth charge to even include a 'I wouldn't go in there if I were you' mask wearing warning.

 

[slotplayer]

And for the record, here's what Liz Truss said in the Commons in March of this year.

So either we're going to stand up to the big bullies over in the USA and get our own way in a trade deal, (LOL), or it turns out it's another Big Fat Brexit Lie and the government legislated as it did last night to make that lie become a reality.

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[Kroffe]

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[pinnit2014]

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For the skin focused amongst us i'd give their cosmetics a wide berth as well; they seem to think 'what could this make up/skin product do with, i know, asbestos!'

 

[slotplayer]

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I eat the chicken so don't post this stuff.

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[ChopleyIOM]

Another Brexit dividend for everyone. Less choice, higher prices.

Also some shocking news about the availability of William Shatner memorabilia.

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[ChopleyIOM]

Some sensible points by Daniel Hannan, and thank goodness boris has set a deadline for middle of oct, stop this rigmarole dragging on for any longer:

The same Daniel Hannan.

 

[Harry_BKK]

The same Daniel Hannan.

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Sounds almost like Mr T proclaiming years ago to bring the coal jobs back!!!

Back to the 20th century, no need to invest into the future

 

[ChopleyIOM]

It shows the desperate reality of where we've ended up, compared to the nonsensical promises of a few years ago.

And the transition period hasn't even ended yet.

Seriously. Fish guts.

Also, this from the UK Freight Transport Association.

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In a letter to The Sunday Times newspaper, he warned: "Everyday household items we import will become more expensive under World Trade Organisation tariffs, some by 30 per cent or more.

"This will make the household shopping basket much more expensive, particularly in the early part of 2021 when we rely on imports for much of our fresh food."

Cabinet minister

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has admitted that leaving the transition period without a trade deal would cause "some turbulence".

In his letter, Mr Wells said: "The actual cost of moving goods will also increase, if new vehicles, parts and tyres are also subject to tariffs.

"This is more than 'turbulence', as suggested by Mr Gove last week, and logistics businesses, operating on 2 per cent margins, cannot afford to take on these costs."

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The words 'clutching' and 'straws' spring to mind.

UK Government's Department for International Trade (genuine verified account) trumpeting the fact that under the UK/Japan trade deal, the tariff on soy sauce will be 0%.

They juxtapose this with the fact that under WTO terms, the tariff on soy sauce is 6%.

They neglect to mention that we are currently trading with Japan under the EU FTA as we are still in the transition period, under which the tariff on soy sauce is, erm, also 0%.

This is literally where we're at now, fish guts (see previous post) and soy sauce not getting any more expensive than it is already under the deal we got as an EU member.

The rest of the world must be quaking in its boots for what lies in store when the UK properly shakes off the yoke of EU oppression in January.

WE'RE COMING AT YOU WITH A LOAD OF DEAD FISH AND REASONABLY PRICED SOY SAUCE MOTHERFUCKERS! RULE BRITANNIA!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Still with the price of soy sauce I'm afraid, which the UK Department for International Trade seems amusingly/alarmingly (delete as appropriate) obsessed with.

(ADDITIONAL POINT OF ORDER - The UK imports nearly all of its soy sauce from The Netherlands, which makes the whole thing a moot point anyway, but we'll ignore that for now.)

They originally claimed that soy sauce would get cheaper. (It is actually soy sauce, not soya sauce, but we'll ignore that for now too.)



But this morning they had to row back from that with another Tweet that reads as follows.



And also of course, in doing so, essentially conceded the fact that trading on WTO terms is shit and would be a fucking dreadful idea for any trading nation to unilaterally inflict upon itself.

Which of course is exactly what the UK will do to itself with its single biggest trading partner (the EU) in the event of a No-Deal Brexit, which Boris Johnson still breezily insists will be just fine.

 

[mack341]

Yes they're not exactly aiming for the sky with this, If I was cynical I'd say the DTI was trolling us brexiteers!

How sad am I that I checked the soy sauce on sainsburys website well three bottles, sainsburys' own was from malaysia, they had another from the Netherlands, and an expensive looking japanese made brand kikkomans or something.

I like the fact we have done a trade deal with japan, we could learn from their country, how they run things and invest in themselves...for example all their hospitals are run by trained doctors instead of bureaucrats, and are not for profit.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Kikkomans is actually made in The Netherlands (or certainly, the stuff that's sold in the EU is).

So without a trade deal, it will become more expensive in January.

Yes I know it's only soy sauce, but it's emblematic of a wider point. WTO trading terms are shit, and if we end up on them, a lot of stuff is going to get more expensive, in some cases much more expensive, and that's before we even get into the realms of scarcity when it comes to some products we take for granted now.

(And of course, it will render many of our exports completely non-viable from an economic perspective.)

So yes theoretically we could switch to imports of soy sauce from Japan to get it on 0% tariffs, but that's not exactly a massive win is it? Japan is nearly 6000 miles away, The Netherlands is just over the water, and of course there will be extra costs involved in getting it here from Japan.

There are just no wins with left with Brexit, are there? Every single deceitful promise and lie has crumbled into dust.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Leaked slide from within Jaguar/Land Rover setting out in black and white what Brexit is looking like for them as transition comes to an end.

Note that both 'Deal' and 'No Deal' are shit, it's just that No Deal is even more shit than Deal.

Also note that one of the mitigating factors in a No Deal outcome is a collapse in the value of the pound which is expected to offset some of the impact of tariffs.

(Which of course means that for the rest of us normal folk, our pounds buy a lot less.)

What you can see, very clearly, is that Brexit is nothing but bad news for the British car industry. (Honda made submissions to a Commons Select Committee along these lines three years ago.)