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But they are the fraudulent scam sites, so of no interest to players.
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the jurisdictions that Curaçao licensees might, or are, moving to.
But they are the fraudulent scam sites, so of no interest to players.
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Not so actually. There are a few around ( among the many hundreds of online casino clip joints ) that take UK players which are actually trustworthy when it comes to paying out. But don't ask me which ones, as I am not going to reveal ;-)
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No, not fussed - any "non gamstop" sites get a wide berth from moi. Crypto only, and only after research!
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Google says the FATF blacklist is the Financial Action Task Force blacklist:
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This is them holding a beef with the Axis of Evil again, isn't it 
What the hell does Iran have to do to catch a break!
Still, nice to see Myanmar brought in to replace Iraq eh
What the hell does Iran have to do to catch a break!
Still, nice to see Myanmar brought in to replace Iraq eh
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In the interests of future-proofing my puny low-rolling operations, I've been popping over to Costa Rica lately, to the embrace of Betpanda which prides itself on being a "anonymous, VPN friendly" kinda place.
No issues at all, most slots at max RTP with a few suboptimal red tigers lurking, but that's pretty par for the course. Weather's nicer than Curacao, too.
No issues at all, most slots at max RTP with a few suboptimal red tigers lurking, but that's pretty par for the course. Weather's nicer than Curacao, too.
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Unfortunately I need to at least temporarily retract the above statement. Although I have had zero player issues with Betpanda as a casino, I went into the Netent section today and there were....
Magic portals
Berryburst
Tickets of fortune
Afaik these games were retired by Netent some time ago and are not available legitimately to play. Quite odd, as they have a full slots selection of all the very latest titles from major providers that cannot just be pirated. And then those. So now I have a question mark over the place.
Magic portals
Berryburst
Tickets of fortune
Afaik these games were retired by Netent some time ago and are not available legitimately to play. Quite odd, as they have a full slots selection of all the very latest titles from major providers that cannot just be pirated. And then those. So now I have a question mark over the place.
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lot of casinos they using fake like novomatic slots on lower RTP, one of the best rated casino ( WINZ) on this forum started with 92% when i complain they remove RTP now they have no RTP show on game at all, but I see other Casinos they have 94% RTP, only casino refuse fake novomatic is BC
FYI both Vave and BC.Game still have Berryburst too. Are you 100% this title has been retired?
Edit - Berryburst is still on NetEnt’s website so it must still active. The other two games aren’t…
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Magic Portals was retired in the 2020 cull, as was Theme Park Tickets of Fortune. Berryburst Max similarly got canned but Berryburst (non-Max) survived and is still available to this day.
The question would be do the games work - they wouldn't be the first site to list a retired game (I recall Matchbook Casino were listing Fisticuffs for a couple of years after it got canned, but the game server predictably didn't work). If they do, then you've got your answer.
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Well this is a curious one, because the domains it appears to be connecting to, such as:
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asia-statictw.casinomodule.com
babylonqtechrow.evo-games.comappear at first glance to tally with legitimate sites (in this case WH)
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williamhillcouk1-static2.casinomodule.com
williamhillcouk.evo-games.com... so why retire a game in 2020, migrate it from NetEnt to Evolution, and leave it operational for more than 3 years? I was able to access these games and spin (for play money) but if I try and access a current game (Starburst, Jumanji etc) I get an "access_blocked" message (UK, no VPN).
The cull in 2020 always felt dumb given how many quality NetEnt titles got wiped out for seemingly no reason, but this adds a new dimension. Something doesn't add up here - it's a weird one for sure!
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Thanks @jasonuk for checking this - helpful input as always mate.
So... bottom line - the casino certainly pays out, doesn't have the look or profile of a typical pirate website (with their limited content). On balance, I'm inclined to guess that it's all on the level then.
Perhaps the games are "retired" but still putting in a few hours a week to stay active / stave off dementia?
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I was able to play all these games from the UK with no blocks. These URL structures, with sub-domains as operator identifiers, are similar across other casinos, so i would say the main source is legit, and consequently the games too. What interesting is that you won't find (i couldn't) both Berryburst slot versions on Curacao casinos, but they're available on some sites with no licensing anywhere, or with Costa Rican e.g., Vave.com. The game file for Max Berryburst looks also real with 96.23% RTP and was generated around mid-last year. Those other slots that Zombie listed seem a rare found.
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You've spotted something very interesting - Vave was Curacao licensed until recently.
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Some were axed for trademark expiry reasons, like Failiens & South Park reel chaos. Some were just shite.
Wankenstein & Street Fighter 2 had ridiculous exploits but the latter remains, repaired lol.
I have a list of Netent games & max RTPs here and I was surprised reminding myself of just how many got culled!
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Yeah, recently for sure. I usually play there as well and seems like the last month they were under Curacao.
And now they're here
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See this familiar face..., they've picked Costa Rica instead of Curacao for their new site.
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This is same owner as BC Game, right?
Seems like a bit of an exodus from Curacao. Until this year there were only a handful of Costa Rica based Crypto casinos, but that's two big names suddenly popping up in the space of a month.
Not a bad result for UK slotting. The KYC stuff coming down the pipe from Curacao was possibly detrimental.
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Yes, and works with the same login. But i haven't played there, just noticed it being promoted on sites like OutlookIndia all over the place.
UK slotting.., soon some will start playing 5p bingo to avoid SOW. It's madness what's going on now.
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Given companies are planning 6-24 months ahead, if we look at the expectations a year ago, there was a plausible (albeit unknown) chance that Curacao would basically stop them operating - no UK/US, no crypto.
It gives them a plan B if Curacao does something they don't like (and the shared logins are a big clue there), and given no US is still on that agenda, I imagine that'll be their play - either split it between Curacao and Costa Rica, or leave Curacao when their contracts are up.
It gives them a plan B if Curacao does something they don't like (and the shared logins are a big clue there), and given no US is still on that agenda, I imagine that'll be their play - either split it between Curacao and Costa Rica, or leave Curacao when their contracts are up.
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I'm not even sure why they feel the need to have a license at all, as opposed to a shit one. Costa Rica issues Business licenses I thought, or have they now added pointless gambling licenses to their paper tiger portfolio?
Aside from a few proper regulatory and licensing authorities, there's no value in the rest - they won't stop bogus slots, scamming, bad RG policies etc.
So if I was running some crapto or scam site I wouldn't even bother pretending I have one, most players wouldn't even understand gambling licenses or jurisdictions anyway.
I mean, look on this forum at the amount of players prepared to play ex-jurisdictional with absolutely no protection, on the basis that it seems fine so far. (until it isn't of course.)
One crapto collapse, or the owner decides there's now enough cash in the business to buy the little island in the Caribbean so objective achieved and pulls the site, there's sod-all comeback.
Aside from a few proper regulatory and licensing authorities, there's no value in the rest - they won't stop bogus slots, scamming, bad RG policies etc.
So if I was running some crapto or scam site I wouldn't even bother pretending I have one, most players wouldn't even understand gambling licenses or jurisdictions anyway.
I mean, look on this forum at the amount of players prepared to play ex-jurisdictional with absolutely no protection, on the basis that it seems fine so far. (until it isn't of course.)
One crapto collapse, or the owner decides there's now enough cash in the business to buy the little island in the Caribbean so objective achieved and pulls the site, there's sod-all comeback.
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I agree on that one, the Curacao one wasn't really worth the paper it was printed on but it gave some (misplaced) level of credibility.
The angle I can think of is that providers need to see a license, so if they've got one - however worthless it is as far as player protection and game integrity goes - then they can start shipping the games over. Rather than be a standard of integrity (with a decent license) it becomes a box ticking exercise (with a license from the box of cornflakes)
It would be nice if providers would take a stand, but we know they'll take the money instead...
The angle I can think of is that providers need to see a license, so if they've got one - however worthless it is as far as player protection and game integrity goes - then they can start shipping the games over. Rather than be a standard of integrity (with a decent license) it becomes a box ticking exercise (with a license from the box of cornflakes)
It would be nice if providers would take a stand, but we know they'll take the money instead...
I think you answered your own question there. The uninformed see that the casino has a “license” and thinks “sweet, I’m protected”, and away they go…
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Not to sound shilly but following the reassuring info unearthed re the licensing of the NetEnt software over at BetPanda, I went back tonight and played for a few hours, had a little tickle on Danger at the end, hit withdraw and the money was in my wallet in 10 seconds.
I feel I can endorse this as yet another viable option for UK peeps struggling to get a game due to the over-regulation, with all the usual caveats about offshore play of course.
Damn those fiendish crap-license Costa Rican scam outfits...!
I feel I can endorse this as yet another viable option for UK peeps struggling to get a game due to the over-regulation, with all the usual caveats about offshore play of course.
Damn those fiendish crap-license Costa Rican scam outfits...!
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Why? So we can all slope back to SOW land?
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