Brexit - whats the difference.....

[ChopleyIOM]

Si.

Oui.

Ja.

It's really come to something when Ursula von der Leyen quotes Margaret Thatcher to a Conservative Government to remind them that the UK does not break international treaties.

I'm no fan of Margaret Thatcher, but she was a titan of honesty and integrity compared to the absolute embarrassing fucking shitshow that passes for the UK Government at the moment.

Also, all five living former UK Prime Ministers have joined forces to criticise what the UK government is currently doing.

 

[mack341]

bbc kate adler:

In her State of the Union address, European Commission President calling for bigger, swifter role for EU on world stage - call for qualified majority voting instead on unanimity on foreign policy issues

von der leyen is a very dictatorial politician, lecture lecture lecture, she'll be very unpopular if her speeches actually get shown on the main news programmes across europe at prime time - which they should.

An embodiment of the charmless, bossy EU; they can't wait to get an army and foreign policy so they can throw their weight around.

 

[Kroffe]

We are coming for your pigs in blankets.

Are they any good?
Is it just any kind of sausage or is it some fancy kind?
Also, when i googled it i got mixed messages about what the blanket is made of.
Croissant pastry or bacon, wich is the real blanket?

 

[paul7388]

We are coming for your pigs in blankets.

Are they any good?
Is it just any kind of sausage or is it some fancy kind?
Also, when i googled it i got mixed messages about what the blanket is made of.
Croissant pastry or bacon, wich is the real blanket?

Wee chipolata sausages in Bacon of course. Keep your pastry.

Tho guess you could use your sausage videos you like to post and make your own weird sausage concoction and wrap them in something,

Heck you could even use some Meat from a Bear if you wished.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

A story in three parts.

There will be more of these.

(NOTE - The people who wanted to extract money from this process have done very well out of it, of course.)

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[09237653]

Applaud you for still engaging with brexity people Chopley, I just cant do it anymore.

'EU trying to break up the UK' is the most recent deluded one and still they believe it despite the facts all being there since the 'oven ready deal'

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Applaud you for still engaging with brexity people Chopley, I just cant do it anymore.

'EU trying to break up the UK' is the most recent deluded one and still they believe it despite the facts all being there since the 'oven ready deal'

Yes the evil EU is trying to break up the UK because it expects the UK to honour an agreement that its Prime Minister negotiated and signed of his own free will after parading said agreement to the UK to win an election on the basis of it being a 'great deal' (his words) and indeed, 'oven ready'.

Definitely the EU's fault.

 

[Slottery]

It's same like we never read every single word from all T&C:s when joining new casino, just main points we assume are important, can happen for anyone

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I can just imagine Boris Johnson opening up a live support ticket with EU HQ.

'Oh hello it's Boris from London here, I appear to have placed a bet of £5 whilst on a bonus and now I've accidentally put a border in the Irish Sea'.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Remember that 'Brexit Trilemma' Venn diagram I posted a few pages back? Well it's been updated to the Johnson version, the basic problem remains however, in that Brexiteers promised impossible things.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Here's a good one, DEFRA secretary George Eustice says that if there is 'chaos' (his word) at the borders following the end of the transition period, it will be the EU's fault because they haven't planned properly.

No really, he actually says that.

Interesting on two counts:

1) Openly acknowledging there may be chaos at the borders in the new year.
2) The EU apparently has the power to 'inflict chaos' upon us, which doesn't sound much like taking back control (he's also lying his arse off of course, but it does show the extreme contortions they're having to go through to try and keep up any sort of pretence that we're not sailing straight into a big shit sandwich).



Here - have a listen!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Michael Gove has now written to UK hauliers explicitly warning them of massive delays to lorries on both sides of the channel at the end of transition.

Just for the record, this is the same Michael 'We Hold All The Cards' Gove.

This is where 'just-in-time' supply chains fall apart. Very quickly.

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[goatwack]

That sinking feeling one gets when even Theresa May says you've gone and screwed it up

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[cncas2123]

Whilst I have always believed that Brexit should go ahead as it was a democratic decision by the UK voters, I don't believe it can go ahead in the way that it is being presented by BoJo & Co.

The new law that they are proposing is pure folly and it means that nobody could ever trust the UK to do business with in the future and all agreements arent worth the paper they are written on.

The May deal was the way forward, particularly as it gave us in NI the best of both worlds and would have been a real boost to our local economy, and it gave everyone a bit of something.

What is happening now is going to cast a dark shadow over the UK for the foreseeable future.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

May's deal was about the best that could be cobbled together once she drew all her red lines, because leaving the Single Market and the Customs Union meant there had to be a border somewhere, the only question at that point was where it was going to end up. (And how it was all waved away at the time, by people who clearly had no bloody idea what they were talking about.)

A smarter politician than her, and with more authority (and a bigger majority.....) would have tried to steer the UK towards a softer Brexit, but she had too many hard Brexit headbangers on her benches and not enough of a majority to corral them and/or the DUP towards a sane form of Brexit.

I think it says something that every single living UK Prime Minister (both Labour and Tory) has gone on record to denounce the course that Johnson has set the UK on now.

We can also say with complete confidence what Margaret Thatcher would have thought about it, because she said so whilst she was still alive, and Ursula von der Leyen reminded the UK government last week of her words.

“Britain does not break treaties. It would be bad for Britain, bad for relations with the rest of the world, and bad for any future treaty on trade.”

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Oh good god almighty, did anyone see Gove in the Commons?

There's going to be, I promise I'm not making this up, a 'KENT ACCESS PERMIT'.

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[ChopleyIOM]

I appreciate it's rather uncouth to blow one's own trumpet, but I feel this post has aged rather well.

 

[goatwack]

Oh excellent. Not content with our EU performance, we're now drawing up regional borders and limiting free movement in some form of Kexit

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Let me be the first to suggest the idea of a Kent Backstop.

 

[Slottery]

I'm giving up, have to read some book about British leaders and logical thinking, maybe that would open up more this "philosophy" which for foreigners is really hard to get hold and understand wtf is going on.

But that same had to do with most of great philosophers to try to understand their complicated thinking how they process things to get their opinions. If there's one available about Bojo, gimme shout, would be an interesting one.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I'm giving up, have to read some book about British leaders and logical thinking, maybe that would open up more this "philosophy" which for foreigners is really hard to get hold and understand wtf is going on.

But that same had to do with most of great philosophers to try to understand their complicated thinking how they process things to get their opinions. If there's one available about Bojo, gimme shout, would be an interesting one.

Try this on for size Slottery, by someone who once employed him.

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[ChopleyIOM]

Quick summary from how Brexit went yesterday.

(The news that JPMorgan is moving £230bn, (yes that's 230 BILLION POUNDS) from London to Frankfurt kind of went under the radar.)



And a Tweet from Roland Smith, who voted Leave.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Sorry, couldn't resist this one.

 

[mack341]

Saw this on twitter, [real Lovejoy] don't think this was actually in PE but should be:

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The thing is mack you're painting that in a totally binary state, i.e. if Private Eye has ever been critical of the EU in the past (which it absolutely has and remains to this day), then it can't also point out some of the follies and dangers of leaving.

Both of those positions can be legitimate, earlier in this very thread I described the EU as 'a large and somewhat unwieldy technocratic organisation', but that doesn't mean I can't also think that, on balance, we'd be better off as a member.

Brexit - whats the difference.....

I mean, here's a cartoon from the current issue of Private Eye, which as you can see is having a go at what could be seen as the EU's pompous and indeed hypocritical stance over not dealing with countries that break international law.

Private Eye has been, and in many regards remains, sceptical about multiple aspects of the EU Project, but that doesn't mean in can't point out the utter shitshow that the Tories have made of Brexit and the damage it stands to cause.