A Break from Casinomiester

4 of a kind

Repeated violations of forum rule 1.16 - troll
Joined
Mar 11, 2009
Location
New York
Prior to joining CasinoMiester, I was your typical online gambler that was satisfied with my results. Although (as far as casinos go) I’m presently a loser, I did have several winning years over the past decade playing online, and understood the long term results (unless hitting a life changing jackpot) would end up negative as of course it presently is. The thrill of the gamble has always been a part of my adult life, and although I’m a loser I enjoyed every penny I lost doing it and fortunately was able to afford the endless hours of thrill and excitement I paid for.

After the UIGEA was passed we all know the effect it had on U.S. players, and was the main reason I eventually found my way here at CasinoMiester.

We all know I was playing at a rogue prior to joining here, along with always getting paid, and really was just looking for more options to play at. Of course I learned why I was getting paid which simply was because I was losing a ton more then they were paying me. So they never got the opportunity to screw me if I caught them big thanks to this place, and I moved on.

After becoming a fixture here over the past year, I started to get concerned about all the rogue posts I was reading. Payout scams, game and software scams, RTP settings, I mean the list started to seem endless. Much of which was bullshit but much was true along with proof. If I never came here I might still be playing at a rogue, never hitting the big one of course, so still getting paid, never thinking about anything except my typical suspicions just like anyone else would have that naturally come from just gambling online.

Most here would agree that over the past year or two we all noticed a serious change with winning sessions all but vanishing. These periodic winning sessions are nothing more to most gamblers then ammo for more play time, just giving us a break from the constant flushing of cash down the toilet.

Although the past year or two for me was nothing more then a losing period, it was how I lost it that got me even more concerned. I played the same way, same bets, and same amount of time as any other years but the winning sessions vanished. Yes, I had several opportunities to cash out and never did, but in the past I usually wouldn’t cash out till I was up over 10 or 20k. Last year I cashed a couple of times for 4k and under, but was use to still having 10k left to burn when I cashed in the past. Last year when I cashed it was down to the last dollar in the account knowing I better take this and run cause you just knew it will only all go.

Regardless, with all the recent rogue tactics taking place and based on my own experiences, I decided to pursue who actually are looking after us online players other then Bryan and Max. Everyone that read my recent posts know how far I got, and trust me when I tell you I really did everything in my power to hopefully prove this online crap is legit or not.

I’ve concluded it’s not legit unless you want to believe it is based on what you’re told with absolutely no evidence of a fair game.

So, I’ve come to realize that I’m so pissed off that I couldn’t come up with not one single shred of evidence that online casinos are not self regulated, or are not free to do whatever it is they please, combined with my recent personal experiences, I pulled the plug.

As a result of this I’m presently challenging everyone and anyone in posts I think were worthy of a challenge, which has by now I’m certain given me the nickname Mr. Negative. I’ve actually taken some of my posts to the crude stage which isn’t my style at all.

I can’t see how with my firm believes I could possibly be any help any longer at this site.

Many affiliates are trying to make an honest living off this stuff, and in many cases do try to steer newbees in what they consider to be the right direction. I can’t see my attitude helping their course and eventually think I will be banned.

I spend a lot of time online and will always visit and read what I consider here to be interesting. But I will no longer post unless I get some special information that could help many of the friends I meet here.

Please don’t take this thread for a plead for comments of please don’t go and all that bullshit and please don’t do it. In fact I’m also certain many will applaud my decision.

I know I no longer fit in here with my present mindset and just know at least for now things will not change with online gaming.

Good luck to all of you….

Carl
 

RobWin

closed account
Joined
Apr 24, 2004
Location
A Vault!
Carl, you're a good poster buddy and I know you are dis-heartened at the moment with your recent quest to find online regulation. Hopefully true regulation will come one day soon but until then all we can do is try our best to challenge the casinos and keep them on their toes for a fair game at all times.

I also know that we always don't agree with each other too but that is just the human nature of it all and our own unique individuality. I will miss your posts here buddy and I truly mean that.

Good luck to you with whatever choices you do make..:)
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rockycatt

meistercatt
Joined
Oct 26, 2008
Location
Boston
Carl i hate to see any poster go because the melting pot of ideas the big
businesses call it brain storming does result in a positive way

i think your tired from your quest and a bit tilted from getting stone walled
in your investigating casino authority;s

but and i dont say this lightly but from the heart please get off the cross your letting this beat you up

i want you to stay and keep posting i read as much as i can of what you write here

respectively R C
 

GGW Laurie

Paleo Meister (means really, really old)
Joined
Jun 16, 2006
Location
In the Beautiful South !!
Carl i hate to see any poster go because the melting pot of ideas the big
businesses call it brain storming does result in a positive way

i think your tired from your quest and a bit tilted from getting stone walled
in your investigating casino authority;s

but and i dont say this lightly but from the heart please get off the cross your letting this beat you up

i want you to stay and keep posting i read as much as i can of what you write here

respectively R C


Ditto what RC said Carl

Laurie
 

Mavin1

Dormant account
Joined
Jun 19, 2009
Location
Arizona
Wow Carl, what can I say. I have always enjoyed your posts, your input and your diligent intelligence. Although a couple of posts sent me over the edge, I still have great respect for what you have to offer.

But I understand where you are coming from. Many times after realizing that my rants regarding RTP, was just always finding that brick wall, I wondered, well if I don't have that then what do I have to contribute. But the fact is there will always be something for everyone to contribute at any given time.

It could just be something that someone else has sparked in your mind and the desire to participate outside our box can be very strong. So, I try to expand on what I want to express, communicate and participate in. Blending with others that share the same interest keeps us interested and mentally active. Although we may really tick people off, or tickle their funny bone, they are still eager and willing to have our participation with them. They may at times ignore us, but then so do we, or they may at times seem to teeter on the edge of a verbal knock down drag out, but then so do we. After a time, all these different personalities that you only mingle with through print start having faces, feelings and become more than just posters, they become your brothers, sisters, moms, dads, aunts and uncles. The forum can be very close to family in so many ways and although we may want to leave for a time, we miss them and only want to see them and read their ideas, views, comic attitudes, dumb assinine attitudes or what have you, again.

So not pleading, but when we think today we have nothing more to contribute, tomorrow someone will post something that will light a fire in your mind. So maybe don't go to far away. :)

We'll leave a light on for you.

Mavin
 

osulle

Paleo Meister (means really, really old)
CAG
mm1
mm4
Joined
Jun 19, 2009
Location
In my head
Carl, I too will be sad to see you go. I have always enjoyed reading your posts.
I have been only gambling online for a little over a year and I have seen how things have changed since I have started playing. Your posts always make me think even if I didn't agree with everything you said.
I really hope you do decide to come back in the future because what you have to say has value in my opinion.

You will be missed.
 

Kenny Lingus

Tard Counter
Joined
Dec 24, 2006
Location
Near Chicago, Illinois
Carl, sir,

As someone who often sees issues from your side of reality, I have a great respect for your opinions. And I am sure that all of the assorted and distorted individuals that make up this community will feel the loss should you be compelled to take a long break from posting here at CM.

I feel your sorrow. The abyss that online gaming has become is very sad, especially when seen in the light of "what could have been". But rather than quit my opinions, I just decided to quit online gambling. I am a better person for it, and it has certainly allowed me to find my place here at the forum.

So from one Crabass to another, hang tough. Right is right, and integrity rules!
 

reda

Senior Member
PABnonaccred
Joined
Feb 22, 2005
Location
HOUSTON
please dont go. :( i have read a lot of your post and will miss them. even though i dont reply much i still read on here all the time.
 

incrediblestuff

SearchingForTheHolyGrail!
webmeister
CAG
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Mar 22, 2010
Location
Mostly the Netherlands
:)
apparantly its useless to ask for a non responsive "au-revoir"

on that note, i can only say i repect youre posts, and find them although sobering from time to time (which isnt nesscesarily a bad thing)
very to the point, and even important.
that quest is something i consider myself a part of in my own way.
just not really ready for it yet.
but i will say, i hope you find some way in your new "spare time" to come up with a solution, or an idea to a solution, maybe we can talk about this later.
i do have a feeling this isnt the last post ive seen of you:)
if im wrong, then thank you for all the interesting topics, and effort put into it
 

RedAndi

Winter is Coming
Joined
May 1, 2009
Location
US
All4 (Carl),
You seemed so determined.
Have you considered maybe proposing some kind of team up with CM, the mods and affiliates to maybe help you along in your efforts to get the answers you seek? I am sure they have some ways of getting to info you need that you can not access. Just an idea.....Hope you think about it.
 

kakata

Banned User - hyper flamming
PABaccred
PABnonaccred
PABnoaccred
Joined
Dec 2, 2006
Location
miami fl
All4 (Carl),
You seemed so determined.
Have you considered maybe proposing some kind of team up with CM, the mods and affiliates to maybe help you along in your efforts to get the answers you seek? I am sure they have some ways of getting to info you need that you can not access. Just an idea.....Hope you think about it.



did you read my mind?.............no!
but I read your post and I steal it.:thumbsup:
ditto for me all of the above and more....but Im unable to write things that are not "women related" so.....:oops:
 

Casinomeister

Forum Cheermeister
Staff member
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Location
Bierland
4 of a kind said:
So, I’ve come to realize that I’m so pissed off that I couldn’t come up with not one single shred of evidence that online casinos are not self regulated, or are not free to do whatever it is they please, combined with my recent personal experiences, I pulled the plug...
You have articulated the dilemma of the US based player. All of the regulated casinos pulled out of the US market - or never dealt with it to begin with. Look at 32Red, Ladbrokes, Betfred, etc., etc., these are regulated and transparent online casinos. US players should be hammering on their reps doors to get things going in the States. People want to gamble online in a safe and regulated environment. US players deserve no less.

Sorry to see you're taking a break. The relative negativity in the forum topics has always been here - even pre-dating the UIGEA. Since the forum is a place where people resolve problems, you're going to see a lot of negative posts. And people will complain before they will offer bright and cheery experiences. It's the nature of the beast.

4 of a kind said:
...Many affiliates are trying to make an honest living off this stuff, and in many cases do try to steer newbees in what they consider to be the right direction. I can’t see my attitude helping their course and eventually think I will be banned...
Don't see why you'd think this. You can get banned for using the "c" word, or for flaming others with abusive language. It's not necessary to be abusive to get a message across. Hell, there are many longtime members here who debate against the grain successfully. I (and most others here) welcome debate.

4 of a kind said:
...I know I no longer fit in here with my present mindset and just know at least for now things will not change with online gaming...
This is your forum - you fit in just like any other frustrated or disillusioned player. Believe me, there are many out there. What you are feeling is not unique or uncommon. Taking a break from the forum is fine, but you may find that active participation can do some good.

And there are other areas of this forum that you may find worth exploring (Blogs, the Attic, webmaster section, etc...).
 

dominique

Dormant account
Joined
Jul 5, 2003
Location
The Boonies
You have articulated the dilemma of the US based player. All of the regulated casinos pulled out of the US market - or never dealt with it to begin with. Look at 32Red, Ladbrokes, Betfred, etc., etc., these are regulated and transparent online casinos. US players should be hammering on their reps doors to get things going in the States. People want to gamble online in a safe and regulated environment. US players deserve no less..

Exactly.

During any prohibition (which is what UIGEA is trying to be) the prohibited items become more and more expensive and the trend only stops when too few people can afford it and cost has to be kept at that level to keep the supplier in business.

In our case, the prohibited item is entertainment, and IMO what has happened is that it has reached the peak of what people can afford to pay for it. ( remember, I am only talking about the US situation).

This is not just due to greedy operators, but the cost of doing business has skyrocketed for them, too. Players demand timely payment, and processors are bilking the heck out of operators, not to mention processors who simply take the money and run. We don't hear about this often since because of UIGEA it is hidden by layers and layers and layers of various corporations etc and as you found out, it's almost impossible to trace (If it wasn't, there would not be any US facing casinos at all).

One recent example is here
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. This fellow was actually turned in by some online poker rooms - he has cheated them out of what sounds like 100 Million (if you read more on the topic than this article you"ll see).

Anyway, the frustration is real, the issue is real, and the blame goes not to the player nor the operator but the US government.

Luckily there finally seems to be some steam behind the movement towards the regulation of online gambling in the US, sparked by some of the individual states. The states have total jurisdiction in this matter.

What will happen once online gambling becomes regulated in the US? What casinos will we play? No telling, but the Vegas giants are definitely looking hard at the online market and have changed their stance regarding it. They now do not oppose legalizing it.

So, things are happening but it's a long, long road yet and meanwhile we can only hope the market adjusts and online gambling becomes more affordable for us US folks again soon. Like I said, as witnessed by so many posts here lately, it has reached the peak of what people are willing to spend.

Something will have to give if US facing casinos are to remain in business.
 
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