YouTube - they did it again. Banning Slot Reviews

[colinsunderland]

Facebook allow adverts from Casinos, they require proof of operating licence etc, what seems to slip through the net is pages giving 'tips' on gambling, there's loads on there that constantly spam up my timeline sponsored casino nause

Yeah it is possible to do it legitimately, but not easy, and even harder for an affiliate. The 'tip' pages, if they have direct affiliate links posted and are reported a few times, they will disappear if they haven't applied for permission first. Most don't, mainly because if you do it properly through an account manager, the minimum monthly spend is £10k (or was a couple of years ago). As an example

Other affiliates have been asked for £50k monthly

 

[JGslots]

Yeah it is possible to do it legitimately, but not easy, and even harder for an affiliate. The 'tip' pages, if they have direct affiliate links posted and are reported a few times, they will disappear if they haven't applied for permission first. Most don't, mainly because if you do it properly through an account manager, the minimum monthly spend is £10k (or was a couple of years ago). As an example

Other affiliates have been asked for £50k monthly

Wow that's crazy, the online casinos must be putting hundreds of thousands of pounds facebooks way, a mere drop in the ocean obviously though!

Rob

 

[BrianGhattas]

I wonder:

If you’re a “professional slot machine player” then how do you make a sustainable living? People are saying that the donations are not kept but donated again to charities. That leaves affiliations and YouTube ad revenue as the only avenues of income. If you can’t even use YouTube to promote yourself then there’s very little else money-wise to put in the bank if you’re giving away all the donations. I assume the Europeans can work a real job as well as play slots “professionally” as they do so from their home.

Random $$ wrote a post where he theorizes how American gambling addicts could “make a living” playing slots.

By the way, anybody here use YT Premium? I had no choice as I loathe the ads. Really sad I have to pay $16 a month to do away with these intrusive ads that annoy me to no end.

 

[interlog]

I wonder:

If you’re a “professional slot machine player” then how do you make a sustainable living? People are saying that the donations are not kept but donated again to charities. That leaves affiliations and YouTube ad revenue as the only avenues of income. If you can’t even use YouTube to promote yourself then there’s very little else money-wise to put in the bank if you’re giving away all the donations. I assume the Europeans can work a real job as well as play slots “professionally” as they do so from their home.

Random $$ wrote a post where he theorizes how American gambling addicts could “make a living” playing slots.

By the way, anybody here use YT Premium? I had no choice as I loathe the ads. Really sad I have to pay $16 a month to do away with these intrusive ads that annoy me to no end.

Adblock PLUS stops all adverts on Youtube. Haven't seen one for ages now.

 

[JGslots]

I wonder:

If you’re a “professional slot machine player” then how do you make a sustainable living? People are saying that the donations are not kept but donated again to charities. That leaves affiliations and YouTube ad revenue as the only avenues of income. If you can’t even use YouTube to promote yourself then there’s very little else money-wise to put in the bank if you’re giving away all the donations. I assume the Europeans can work a real job as well as play slots “professionally” as they do so from their home.

Random $$ wrote a post where he theorizes how American gambling addicts could “make a living” playing slots.

By the way, anybody here use YT Premium? I had no choice as I loathe the ads. Really sad I have to pay $16 a month to do away with these intrusive ads that annoy me to no end.

When in Vegas once I got chatting with a chap who lived there, he says you used to be able to make a profit from the casinos there. They have loads of 'must drop' by progressives over there, when these reach a certain point they potentially become +EV to play.

He went on to say he got banned from a bunch of casinos for just targeting these machines, as everything is tracked on your players card such as slot, playtime, profit and loss etc.

He said the locals are obviously well reheresed with these types of slots now, so hard to catch the pots high.

I remember my last trip I found a WMS must Drop $500 progressive on $482, I had a Chinese guy behind me smoking, waiting for over an hour to jump on.

Watching the look on his face when I got the progressive was worth more than actually winning the jackpot lol.

So yes, it's possible to profit, even on random slots.

Rob

 

[JGslots]

Was a really funny guy, he says he used to walk 5-6 miles around the casinos on and off the strip, must have gone through a pair of shoes each week lol.

He had all the locations mapped out in his head so would follow a route around the casino floor checking pots then move on to the next casino, writing down any 'close' pots.

Rob

 

[BrianGhattas]

@interlog

On my hoary old laptop PC, yes. However, I also use my iPad 4, PlayStation 4 and my Samsung Galaxy 8 to watch YT videos and there's no reliable ad blocker for free on those platforms

@JGslots

Yes, that's a strategy that does work. Find those WMS slots that must hit once a progressive reaches its limit. I should try that tomorrow.

 

[JGslots]

@interlog

On my hoary old laptop PC, yes. However, I also use my iPad 4, PlayStation 4 and my Samsung Galaxy 8 to watch YT videos and there's no reliable ad blocker for free on those platforms

@JGslots

Yes, that's a strategy that does work. Find those WMS slots that must hit once a progressive reaches its limit. I should try that tomorrow.

Yes, when I last went they had hundreds of these, however I spent most of my playtime on Hot 8, Buffalo Gold and Life of Luxury.

Rob

 

[Spikie]

Looks like stopandstep gone again

 

[steveh35]

Looks like the Youtube fair use 30 second policy is being removed all my videos are being blocked in countries one by one, so looks like Youtube are having major changes to the way the site is run and what content is on there.

 

[lockinlove]

Damn, sad to see shirox now using viewbots to stay at top of section.

I guess I cant be upset with these streamers cheating now. Why should they let these fake channels own the entire section. I guess I get it. Dont like it but I get it.

 

[BrianGhattas]

@lockinlove

That guy has always been a fraud. Everything about him is disingenuous. I saw his 1000+ viewer count and just laughed. Why would anybody even chat with him late nights when he doesn't talk due to claims that his "girlfriend" and "baby' are "asleep".

 

[Nicola]

@lockinlove

That guy has always been a fraud. Everything about him is disingenuous. I saw his 1000+ viewer count and just laughed. Why would anybody even chat with him late nights when he doesn't talk due to claims that his "girlfriend" and "baby' are "asleep".

I saw his stream a few weeks ago where he lost €17k on Wild Swarm and he just logged off in a foul mood without even thanking the viewers or anything.

Is this the same guy who lives with his mum in the basement (reading some YouTube comments) lol

 

[CasinoNinja]

@lockinlove

That guy has always been a fraud. Everything about him is disingenuous. I saw his 1000+ viewer count and just laughed. Why would anybody even chat with him late nights when he doesn't talk due to claims that his "girlfriend" and "baby' are "asleep".

I sometimes stay up and chat with him, I think he is alright. Regardless if he use Viewbots or what, but he plays on reputable sites and has probably a ton of money in affiliate earnings to keep things going. So no need to be "fake".

Nickslots admited he was earning over £100k the other day, so just imagining the affiliate earnings is crazy. Wish I had been wiser sooner!

 

[monttumies]

Damn, sad to see shirox now using viewbots to stay at top of section.

I guess I cant be upset with these streamers cheating now. Why should they let these fake channels own the entire section. I guess I get it. Dont like it but I get it.

Im pretty sure he doesnt use viewbots. His view count is usually fairly similar 300-400 during prime streaming times. Only times he gets 700-1000 range is on late streams when more popular streamers are not streaming. I think other reasons is that he has done higher bets lately.

@lockinlove

That guy has always been a fraud. Everything about him is disingenuous. I saw his 1000+ viewer count and just laughed. Why would anybody even chat with him late nights when he doesn't talk due to claims that his "girlfriend" and "baby' are "asleep".

I think hes one of the more legit streamers actually. He never encourages people to sign through his links or gamble. Also his streams are more about slot play than anything else. I can see why people dont like him though.

I saw his stream a few weeks ago where he lost €17k on Wild Swarm and he just logged off in a foul mood without even thanking the viewers or anything.

Is this the same guy who lives with his mum in the basement (reading some YouTube comments) lol

Maybe you should stop taking youtube trolls seriously.

 

[lockinlove]

Im pretty sure he doesnt use viewbots. His view count is usually fairly similar 300-400 during prime streaming times. Only times he gets 700-1000 range is on late streams when more popular streamers are not streaming. I think other reasons is that he has done higher bets lately.



I think hes one of the more legit streamers actually. He never encourages people to sign through his links or gamble. Also his streams are more about slot play than anything else. I can see why people dont like him though.



Maybe you should stop taking youtube trolls seriously.

Absolutely untrue. I was in the channel when it happened. he had 224 viewers. 10 seconds later he had 1100 with no host. Same with casinodaddy. He had 1100 viewers...2 mins later 7000.

its just what streamers are doing now to compete with the 12 or so fake channels stealing the entire top section.

Same with Daskelele. He isnt even ashamed to use viewbots. he does reruns and puts 150 viewbots in his channel. You go into it. No one saying a word and alot of the bots in the viewerlist has same join date.

And there were 3 other streamers on that people enjoy so it had nothing to do with that at all.

Its actually very common to use viewbots in the casino section now. They have no other way to fight the fraud channels, so they join them.

Also, I dont know many channels forcing people to sign up through their links. Its quite a big turn off so people dont usually do it.

 

[lockinlove]

I sometimes stay up and chat with him, I think he is alright. Regardless if he use Viewbots or what, but he plays on reputable sites and has probably a ton of money in affiliate earnings to keep things going. So no need to be "fake".

Nickslots admited he was earning over £100k the other day, so just imagining the affiliate earnings is crazy. Wish I had been wiser sooner!

Nickslots is very different. He started out betting 60 cents, crying on stream saying he has to quit. To being lucky and partnering with letsgiveitaspin who owns a gambling forum full of links and selling it to leovegas.

 

[Borgie]

I sometimes stay up and chat with him, I think he is alright. Regardless if he use Viewbots or what, but he plays on reputable sites and has probably a ton of money in affiliate earnings to keep things going. So no need to be "fake".

Nickslots admited he was earning over £100k the other day, so just imagining the affiliate earnings is crazy. Wish I had been wiser sooner!

Agreed . Shirox is not fake. He shows deposits. His baby is real. He's a toddler now. His gf is real. He doesnt live in mums basement. He has a place with gf and son and cats. You often see cat cam on stream.

He has been affilating for years and as pp said will make loads of money from that. He only streams from solid casinos that don't allow fake money. He also works.

Now he may have started using viewbots and that's sad.

He is a natural pessimist and is always unhappy but I'm sure hes genuine. He is a friend of casinotwitcher.

Her an acquired taste but aren't all streamers

 

[monttumies]

Absolutely untrue. I was in the channel when it happened. he had 224 viewers. 10 seconds later he had 1100 with no host. Same with casinodaddy. He had 1100 viewers...2 mins later 7000.

its just what streamers are doing now to compete with the 12 or so fake channels stealing the entire top section.

Same with Daskelele. He isnt even ashamed to use viewbots. he does reruns and puts 150 viewbots in his channel. You go into it. No one saying a word and alot of the bots in the viewerlist has same join date.

And there were 3 other streamers on that people enjoy so it had nothing to do with that at all.

Its actually very common to use viewbots in the casino section now. They have no other way to fight the fraud channels, so they join them.

Also, I dont know many channels forcing people to sign up through their links. Its quite a big turn off so people dont usually do it.

Shirox has had over 1000 viewers only twice in the last 90 days. Source

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. I mean he could be viewbotting but its not like he has 1000 viewers all the time.

Daskelele def is and has been from the start.

They are not forcing but they are constantly encouraging to people to do so. Doing giveaways based on deposits, limited "special offers" that are just regular deposit bonuses etc.

 

[BrianGhattas]

How does making money from affiliates work? Is it like getting advertising revenue from YouTube videos? I’m guessing it’s like commission when a real estate agent sells a house or a car salesman sells an automobile.

 

[CasinoNinja]

The good ones get around 30%+ of whatever the player lost for lifetime at a casino and with no negative carryover so if you win one month, their counter get reset for the following month and payout.

They can also have x amount of money paid to them if you just sign up and deposit once.

 

[Playford7]

I know nick. He’s totally above board. Yes massive affy earnings but that is his choice.
The likes of chipmunks and fruity slots spoil it. Clueless clowns.

 

[lockinlove]

Shirox has had over 1000 viewers only twice in the last 90 days. Source

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. I mean he could be viewbotting but its not like he has 1000 viewers all the time.

Daskelele def is and has been from the start.

They are not forcing but they are constantly encouraging to people to do so. Doing giveaways based on deposits, limited "special offers" that are just regular deposit bonuses etc.

I understand how people want to believe and believe in goodness first. I have a very good friend who streams and has showed me all the emails from casinos and affiliate managers saying they work with and that most streamers in the section are fake. Sad to say it but they are.

Also alot of them are playing for a wage. Especially the group channels. People and casinos hire most of these people, set up a test account and pay them hourly.

My friend bets $1 on average. He was offered by numerous casinos to bet $5 a spin and a fake skrill account. Its more common than people think.

The below picture doesnt prove anything against the named but the emails I have read do to me anyways.

But yeah most daily slot streamers are being paid a salary.

A friend of mine replied to this job posting just to see. Its to stream slots on twitch for a wage obviously. There are dozens of these ads weekly.

 

[Nicola]

I've made it no secret, I like to watch Roshtein everyday in the background while I'm doing other things as I like to see what potential slots have at high stakes. Makes no difference to me personally if he is real or fake. Couldn't give a crap tbh. He is a good actor and/or businessman.

Nearly every week I deal with complaints or see them posted on AskGamblers where players have won a large amount £20k, £50k, £100k and they have been told to wait an extended time before they are paid in full or installments. Casinos simply can't pay players large amounts as quick as they use to. We're not talking small casinos either, large brands such as EnergyCasino, VideoSlots etc do this all the time.

In the last 10 days these are Roshteins withdrawals on stream, all from deposits of €2000-€5000....

18th October - €40,000
17th October - €45,000
14th October - €78,000
12th October - €52,000
11th October - €20,000
10th October - €9,000

Do I really think N1 pay him this? No way, wins are probably capped at 2x or he is paid by the hour as the post above says.

 

[lockinlove]

I know nick. He’s totally above board. Yes massive affy earnings but that is his choice.
The likes of chipmunks and fruity slots spoil it. Clueless clowns.

FruitySlots do not play with real money, MSCasino, Casino Rockstar I know for 100% certainty. I read an email asking my friend to stream within their group for a wage. All affiliate earnings go to the channel owner the streamers are paid a salary.

Im not sure if casinohoney is still playing with fake money now that she left casinorockstar but I would assume since she was doing it before....why not now.

And yes it takes a little bit of common sense to realize there is no way N1 casino is paying roshtein all that money. Its a small casino for one. And really thats all the proof anyone needs in the world lol

People arguing in the defense of some people sound exactly the same as the people that have tried argue with me that daskelele is legit. Until I told them to go and watch him activate viewbots and click on the join dates of most of his viewers. Then they are like oh wow I thought he was real!

Same thing for shirox. Someone told me to go watch shirox tilt or something cant remember. it just happened that I went into the channel he put viewbots in his channel. I checked the join dates on his viewer list and while scrolling through I would say 700 of the people all had the same join date and month. Which is viewbots.

As ive said before the emails I read from casino managers did not name casinodaddy, roshtein or shirox. The email was written like "You do realize that the bigger and popular streamers on twitch who play slots all day are using test accounts with fake skrill right? You cant sustain streaming all day those stakes which is why we are offering you the same deal. You can bet how you want in real play, you get 50% of the affiliate commission you just cannot have any of the winnings"

That was not from just one person. That from a few casino mangers/affiliate managers.

So to me, that tells me I cant trust anyone of the ones playing slot all hours of the day betting 5-20. I mean who else do they mean?

The section is a scam. Its fine if you guys watch them to be entertaining. But please dont be swayed to bet and play like them. They arent using real money. You are.

Ive seen a few casino streamers that I liked go broke because they thought the way to get viewers was to bet $5. Casinomon was one. He didnt realize that the other streamers he was trying to copy were fake. And it was inevitable he went broke and he had an ok sized channel.

People think affiliate sign ups are instant thousands. Ive seen screenshots of affiliate accounts where they have 200 signups but zero commission because people get lucky and win and their account is in the negative. For many months in a row. So this notion that because they have hundreds of signups make them rich to bet like that. Sorry. Not true.