Wtf happened to Dead or Alive

Sorry. but ever since Slot Tracker was bought out by (whichever) affiliate group, I have ZERO faith in anything they might have to say, although, that's not directed at Tropicana50 personally

Everything is rigged...even slot tracker...a bit far fetched....
 
Everything is rigged...even slot tracker...a bit far fetched....
I'm not saying slot tracker is rigged, so don't jump to conclusions, I'm sure the programme runs fine.
I was told by them that there was no way they could differentiate between HTML5 DOA and flash DOA. But after the 'buy out' there now is !!!

It just seems like most of the ones who shout the loudest about things not being rigged are the affiliates, who have a vested interest in players 'having faith' in their deposits.

Which begs the question.... Why would an affiliate group buy slot tracker for $1M?
Are they really expecting to make that money back from a limited subscriber base?
 
So people are still playing Notent slots then?
ST was bought by Game Lounge a Swedish company for an eventual 1m Euros and I understand they intend to use the tool to assist affiliate sales by providing information from it to influence player decisions on which casinos and slots to play/sign up to. In other words if a player is looking for frequent bonus rounds, or high average bonus round return then the info will be provided and where they can play the game. A bit like Slotscomparer on steroids.
 
So people are still playing Notent slots then?
ST was bought by Game Lounge a Swedish company for an eventual 1m Euros and I understand they intend to use the tool to assist affiliate sales by providing information from it to influence player decisions on which casinos and slots to play/sign up to. In other words if a player is looking for frequent bonus rounds, or high average bonus round return then the info will be provided and where they can play the game. A bit like Slotscomparer on steroids.

I don't begrudge anybody making a penny or two on new applications such as Slot Tracker.

But Slot Tracker was partially successful because of the hours of work put in by members on this forum during the beta testing. In return for what? A few months free gold membership. Hardly a good reward considering that it was flogged for a very nice penny or two.
 
I don't begrudge anybody making a penny or two on new applications such as Slot Tracker.

But Slot Tracker was partially successful because of the hours of work put in by members on this forum during the beta testing. In return for what? A few months free gold membership. Hardly a good reward considering that it was flogged for a very nice penny or two.




All cm members did, was install on our computers?
And enjoyed or not the results of our slotting with it. Or was there more.

And what should we expect in return? Curious.
 
I'm not saying slot tracker is rigged, so don't jump to conclusions, I'm sure the programme runs fine.
I was told by them that there was no way they could differentiate between HTML5 DOA and flash DOA. But after the 'buy out' there now is !!!

It just seems like most of the ones who shout the loudest about things not being rigged are the affiliates, who have a vested interest in players 'having faith' in their deposits.

Which begs the question.... Why would an affiliate group buy slot tracker for $1M?
Are they really expecting to make that money back from a limited subscriber base?


Ok...your post implied something was up.

Aren’t some casinos still running the non HTML doa....i suppose if they were testing the non HTML version they only used slot tracker on doa at those casinos that have the non HTML and vice versa.
 
All cm members did, was install on our computers?
And enjoyed or not the results of our slotting with it. Or was there more.

And what should we expect in return? Curious.

Some provided a lot of detail, reported bugs etc.

Perhaps it was the way I interpreted the orginal posts from them here, but I didn't interpret the posts to be of a commercial nature with the ultimate aim being making a million bucks from it.

I would have expected life time gold membership in return as a thank you for me helping them to flog the product
 
Some provided a lot of detail, reported bugs etc.

Perhaps it was the way I interpreted the orginal posts from them here, but I didn't interpret the posts to be of a commercial nature with the ultimate aim being making a million bucks from it.

I would have expected life time gold membership in return as a thank you for me helping them to flog the product

Ah...I agree.
I just installed on my computer. That’s why.

But yes that would have been great thatnk you.
 
We have analysed the statistics from both the Flash version of this game and the HTML version in detail at the request of several prominent members of Casino Meister. We performed many levels of standard deviation and cross comparison on over 2 million real money spins and 15 million demo spins.

We can clarify that our findings do not show a change in the variance across the different game types. Our data shows that the games play in the exact same way.

In the aspect of complete transparency we are happy to provide a confidential copy of our data if others wish to perform further analysis.

- T

I asked to have a look at the data a couple of months ago but you ignored my PM.

Why not post a slightly more detailed synopsis of your findings here? Struggling to see why the data would be confidential as its from publicly accessed servers.

It would also be a fitting gift back to the CM commmunity that drove the success of Slot Tracker (including subscribing myself) in the first place and put this and other similar threads to bed once and for all.
 
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I don't care for the fly by night statement about DOA playing the same, when it's quite clearly not. One need only play it, after having the old version emblazoned on our brains, to see the base game produces far more 5OAKs than before, whilst the bonus suffers as a result.
 
If SlotTracker sold for a million then fair play to the creator , sold at what is probably market peak.

As the gaming regs have evolved in UK and are now showing personal and game specific rtp at a casino , it would be trivial to aggregate the stats and provide community data , as well as bonus stats etc. So potentially hundreds of competitors suddenly on the scene.

So how can the affiliate group that bought it think that it would be worth that much ?

Or was it bad timing for them , and great for ST ?
 
If SlotTracker sold for a million then fair play to the creator , sold at what is probably market peak.

As the gaming regs have evolved in UK and are now showing personal and game specific rtp at a casino , it would be trivial to aggregate the stats and provide community data , as well as bonus stats etc. So potentially hundreds of competitors suddenly on the scene.

So how can the affiliate group that bought it think that it would be worth that much ?

Or was it bad timing for them , and great for ST ?

Yea - if it did actually sell for £1m
 
Last time I heard there were less than 1000 subscribers, admittedly some time ago so hopefully they have managed to ramp that up without too much wastage.

Two year revenue acquisition value about right then. I liked the concept, unfortunately the continual less than 100% reliability of recording what you were playing made it redundant for me. Hopefully they have ironed that out now.
 
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Probably need to look at their Gold status pricing. It’s not massive but it’s certainly not cheap as chips, especially with casinos offering basic RTP showings.

Only time I really paid much attention for it was seeing could I break my gold less Bonanza streak. Must be the sadist in me.
Agreed - if they had dropped it to a fiver,
I think they would be looking at 50k subscribers and have doubled their revenue. Their product -> their choice though.
 
Agreed - if they had dropped it to a fiver,
I think they would be looking at 50k subscribers and have doubled their revenue. Their product -> their choice though.

True - what was weird I thought re the pricing is that it was still in its infancy, still bugs and tweaks yet a premium price for it. As said, their choice but it is interesting as to see if it still remains relevant in the coming years.

Re the original question on DOA. The games whole feel is different. Old version was less bonus offerings but bigger for me. Personally iv had more success on new one but iv been hammering it more than I did the old one. Only my opinion.
 
True - what was weird I thought re the pricing is that it was still in its infancy, still bugs and tweaks yet a premium price for it. As said, their choice but it is interesting as to see if it still remains relevant in the coming years.

Re the original question on DOA. The games whole feel is different. Old version was less bonus offerings but bigger for me. Personally iv had more success on new one but iv been hammering it more than I did the old one. Only my opinion.

Well they got the data right there.

Hopefully Tropicana will reciprocate to the Casinomeister community to everyone here who subscribed and took the time to beta test his new product. Hopefully.
 
I think the statistics available from Slot Tracker regarding the flash and HTML5 version of DoA is irrelevant as the data for the flash version is only available after the change.
The suspicion (at least mine) is that they changed the mechanics of the game at the same time when the HTML5 version was introduced.
So it does not really matter which front end (flash or HTML5) you use NOW the game play will be the same:mad:
 
You can still play the old version of Dead or Alive at any casino just by adding notmobile or sw to the URL.

Works the same with Raging Rhino and Monte. Not so easy when using a tablet though!

@Nicola

Can you show an example please (IE: where to type this part you mention)

For an intelligent bloke, I am so slow sometimes :oops: - Have I understood this right I can go to say a Caddell site where they have HTML5 Rhino, add this "notmobile" and play flash version??
 
I think the statistics available from Slot Tracker regarding the flash and HTML5 version of DoA is irrelevant as the data for the flash version is only available after the change.
The suspicion (at least mine) is that they changed the mechanics of the game at the same time when the HTML5 version was introduced.
So it does not really matter which front end (flash or HTML5) you use NOW the game play will be the same:mad:

Have the maths changed cuz in order to do so they would have to get the game inspected again.
 

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