Williams Interactive (WMS) Games Now Live At Nordicbet

[rainmaker]

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Wooohoo...Great news from Nordicbet as they have launched a BUNCH of games from Williams Interactive (WMS) in their Games section today!

Kronos, Zeus, Bruce Lee and many more.

And I just realized that Betsafe has released these games today as well in Casino Black.

 

[Respin_Ftw]

What an absolute shock this was for me. This means, no jackpot tied to the games, higher RTP! No Ruby Slippers yet though. A very interesting descision, thanks for the heads up neighbour.

 

[rainmaker]

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So many great games, not sure where to start

From Betsafe:

 

[Respin_Ftw]

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So many great games, not sure where to start

From Betsafe:

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Always start with Bruce Lee =) It can build fast if its in the mood. Leprechauns fortune is another fun games which can give alot of bonus games with sticky wilds.

 

[Respin_Ftw]

Slots run like a nightmare though compared to Jackpotparty. Very laggy, and yes i have a new computer. Tried both firefox and explorer. You experience lag too Rainmaker?

 

[Shorty]

omg i always wanted to try those games and now i can

very nice

 

[rainmaker]

Slots run like a nightmare though compared to Jackpotparty. Very laggy, and yes i have a new computer. Tried both firefox and explorer. You experience lag too Rainmaker?

There seems to be some server problems at the moment as I am not able to even open the games at neither Nordic or Betsafe. I tried a few spins earlier without any problems or lag. Maybe the slow spins you experienced was related to whatever problems they may have. Let us try again a bit later

 

[Slotster!]

Excellent news. Were these the ones previously only available at Jackpot Party and on (evil apparently) FOBT in the bookies?

Seems that the lines are blurring massively these days between who provides what and which you can play where.

Other than in this specific case - I can't decide if this is a good thing or not

I pretty much only play at one of five places.

32RED, Mr Green, Intercasino, Blue Sq and on the odd occasion Club World.

(And I just signed up to Redbet but not given that a proper going over yet )

Whilst now I can play IGT and MG slots at Mr Green, can someone explain to me why I don't?..

I guess I like my software providers like my girlfriends. Great fun, low maintenance and as far away from each other as possible.

 

[kazzi]

Awww just went to check the danish nordicbet/betsafe and nope


Lucky guys really want to play those games

 

[hoff1985]

I only get a black screen on these games... Anyone else having this issue? Probably they block swiss player's by IP... We also can't play at JackpotParty

 

[BeardyGuts]

At work so can't log in to casinos so can anyone post the RTP's for these games from Nordic Bet or Betsafe? Would be interesting to see how they compare to jackpot party without the progressive being involved.

 

[Respin_Ftw]

Games work again but are VERY laggy!

Edit: i will skip my deposit for now, the slots are so slow its unbearable.

 

[Shorty]

rtp is stated in the paytable, around 96 % at most games

 

[Unibet Rep]

just wanted to let you all know that we at Unibet have also been testing the games, prior to launch them, and there is indeed a lag which they are working on.

Dave

 

[dionysus]

Well, guessing these are are all Canadian banned games?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

This is fascinating stuff, not only are these implementations of WMS games minus the horrible Jackpot Party Progressives (the 3% of RTP you can basically set fire to), they're paying higher than they would if the JPP contributions were just added onto the base game pays at Jackpot Party.

Jackpot Party run the base games on all WMS slots at 92%, plus 3% to the JPPs to make the stated 95% RTP.

Every single one I've checked at NordicBet is running at 96%.

I hope Jackpot Party start to run in 'dual mode' on all their slots now, (i.e. play with or without JPPs), I've filled in their feedback forms god knows how many times and said I hate the forced JPP contributions. It was only 'cause I like WMS slots so much that I played there at all.

Now they're available elsewhere...... Ooohhhhh baby...... Bruce Lee at 96% RTP.

I'll wait until all this lag stuff gets sorted out though before playing, I'm doing well to even launch half the games

 

[rainmaker]

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I tried a couple of these games over at Nordic and Betsafe in fun mode now. Looks like the lag is gone as they were running pretty fast on my laptop

Edit: Guess it has not been taken care of as Bruce Lee suddenly started to run slow again hehe!

 

[sapit222]

Just checked a quicky, but not so big difference.

Zeus 95,21% Jackpotparty
Zeus 95,97% Nordicbet

Tried a few spins in free spin mode & works fine in Google Chrome.

Ill try in real play mode later.

Its good news with these games in Nordicbet, couse its 1 of my favs.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Just checked a quicky, but not so big difference.

Zeus 95,21% Jackpotparty
Zeus 95,97% Nordicbet

Tried a few spins in free spin mode & works fine in Google Chrome.

Ill try in real play mode later.

Its good news with these games in Nordicbet, couse its 1 of my favs.

You're missing the fact that the stated 95.21% RTP on this slot at Jackpot Party is comprised of 92.22% on the base game and then 2.99% contribution to the Jackpot Party Progressives, which is where they get 95.21% from

At Nordicbet you're getting the full 95.97% RTP off the base game itself, as there are no progressives.

It's a big difference that'll make itself felt once you get a few thousand spins in.

Remember, with the Jackpot Party Progressives you can play for weeks and months without ever seeing one, (even the tiny 0-star JPP), and there's a good chunk of that 2.99% JPP RTP tied up in the bigger ones, which you may very well never see in a lifetime of play.

 

[sapit222]

You're missing the fact that the stated 95.21% RTP on this slot at Jackpot Party is comprised of 92.22% on the base game and then 2.99% contribution to the Jackpot Party Progressives, which is where they get 95.21% from

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Didnt know that. So around 3% diff then. Sounds better.

 

[Balthazar]

Well, guessing these are are all Canadian banned games?

I'd also like to know.

 

[dionysus]

I'd also like to know.

I tried, but the games won't open for me, so guessing not

 

[Impleo]

I love these games but it's been a nightmare for me on Nordic. I hit the winged monkey feature on Wizard of Oz and won 135 Euro but then it kept crashing and then crashed as the "Big win" was paying out my money and finally when I did get in it didn't reload the bonus game and didn't credit my money. I spoke to live chat who told me to send in a screen shot but not being very techy I don't know how I can if the page isn't there to take a screenshot of.

Have emailed support who say they aim to answer in 15 minutes but have had no response after an hour.

 

[Scooter7]

You're missing the fact that the stated 95.21% RTP on this slot at Jackpot Party is comprised of 92.22% on the base game and then 2.99% contribution to the Jackpot Party Progressives, which is where they get 95.21% from

At Nordicbet you're getting the full 95.97% RTP off the base game itself, as there are no progressives.

It's a big difference that'll make itself felt once you get a few thousand spins in.

Remember, with the Jackpot Party Progressives you can play for weeks and months without ever seeing one, (even the tiny 0-star JPP), and there's a good chunk of that 2.99% JPP RTP tied up in the bigger ones, which you may very well never see in a lifetime of play.

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Progressive jackpot games are a lot of fun for the winner, but financially draining (relative to non-jackpot games) for everyone else.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Progressive jackpot games are a lot of fun for the winner, but financially draining (relative to non-jackpot games) for everyone else.

The problem with the JPPs is they're not even that big. It's almost like a double-whammy of awfulness 'cause the high-rollers (betting £5-£10 per spin) hit them all the time and don't care, but the low-rollers (who they would actually be a nice boost for) see them once every few weeks or months, and sometimes never! (As the chance of triggering them is linked to stake.)

Here's where they're sat at now, as you can see, you need to get to the 2-star JPP for it to be of much interest even to a low-roller. And make no mistake, the 2-star JPP is a rare hit, the 3-star even more so and the 4-star goes less than once per month.



I've been playing at Jackpot Party for a year and I've never got past the 1-star JPP, and you can easily go tens of thousands of spins without hitting a JPP at all.

It's a nice idea in theory, and I'd have no problem at all if it were voluntary. But the sad fact is that if you play at Jackpot Party you are forced to play progressives if you play any of their slots, and 92% RTP on the base games is pretty damn horrible.

I don't like progressives, I avoid them, I never expect to hit a big one in a million years and I simply resent giving away 'proper' RTP to them. High variance slots I can deal with, MEGA ULTRA INSANE HIGH VARIANCE SLOTS (which is what progressives basically are), much less so.

I hope Jackpot Party have a Plan B, because now WMS slots are available at other casinos with a MUCH better base RTP, they need to up their game a bit. They had the exclusive on WMS slots, I only played there 'cause I love WMS slots, but give me a choice between Bruce Lee on 92% (effective) at Jackpot Party, or 96% at NordicBet, and I'm playing that sucker at NordicBet, no doubt about it.

 

[dionysus]

I've only ever once won a top progressive at the land-based casino. Happened to be Jackpot Party ....all the stars, $2500 for my quarter

 

[sapit222]

The games works better at Nordicbet now.
Ive done a few hundred spins in real play mode.
At first they crashed a lot, but after a while it became better.
Not so much luck though.

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

I tried, but the games won't open for me, so guessing not

I tried in the morning at betsafe and it was working. Did not have time to play but there were not blocked. will try later tonight when I am settled.

 

[dionysus]

Do Nordic and Betsafe have the same selection of (WMS) games?
thanks

 

[me_and_ed]

I can play them at Nordicbet, for how long, that will be the question.

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

Do Nordic and Betsafe have the same selection of (WMS) games?
thanks

well i cant see them at betsafe at the moment but i tried Zeus at NordicBet with the last 20cents i had on my account it it was working. the only thing i cant deposit at nordicbet now since they dont have instadebit, instant banking or ukash.
The selection was pretty much the same i think, i hope they did not block it by IP at betsafe. Can anyone try if they can see them in Casino Black at this moment.

 

[dionysus]

When I went to BetSafe they werent in the games listings

 

[rainmaker]

well i cant see them at betsafe at the moment but i tried Zeus at NordicBet with the last 20cents i had on my account it it was working. the only thing i cant deposit at nordicbet now since they dont have instadebit, instant banking or ukash.
The selection was pretty much the same i think, i hope they did not block it by IP at betsafe. Can anyone try if they can see them in Casino Black at this moment.

WMS games have temporarily been removed from Betsafe because of technical issues. Hopefully they will be back up soon.

I have asked Nordicbet about restricted countries. Will let you know what they say

 

[dionysus]

I can play them at Nordicbet, for how long, that will be the question.

Ya BetVictor used to have them..for like a day before blocked. I really hope they don't. There's no valid reason to NOT let Canadians play; after all, they take our money for anything else.

 

[me_and_ed]

WMS games have temporarily been removed from Betsafe because of technical issues. Hopefully they will be back up soon.

I have asked Nordicbet about restricted countries. Will let you know what they say

We different platform starved Canadians appreciate you bringing our attention to Nordicbet........sarcasm

 

[dionysus]

We different platform starved Canadians appreciate you bringing our attention to Nordicbet........sarcasm

 

[me_and_ed]

WMS games have temporarily been removed from Betsafe because of technical issues. Hopefully they will be back up soon.

I have asked Nordicbet about restricted countries. Will let you know what they say

Well I hope you will be the bearer of good news.

 

[rainmaker]

Well I hope you will be the bearer of good news.

Norway is in the same position as Canada, we can for example not play IGT games because of regulation (or the lack of it). If Canada should be blocked then one should also expect that the same thing would happen to players from Norway (we are also not allowed to play at Jackpot Party for example).

And it would not make much sense in my opinion if Betsson brands like Nordicbet, who has Norway as one of few target markets, should release a bunch of games that Norwegians will be blocked from playing.

BUT it says on Williams Interactive's site:

Williams Interactive LLC is a global supplier of world famous online casino games and services. Whether you're looking for 'Real Money' gaming in regulated markets or 'Play for Fun' in early stage markets like the United States, Williams Interactive is your total gaming solution provider.

Let us hope for the best yes!

 

[akrus88]

Was really shocked to read this. And very happy .

Did not find wms games on nether of the casinos at first. But no I did hit them on nordicbet, but still unable to find them from betsafe..

 

[rainmaker]

Was really shocked and happy when I red this thread!

But

I am unable to find any wms games on nether of the casinos

Have you looked in Nordicbet's Games section? (not their Casino)

 

[akrus88]

Have you looked in Nordicbet's Games section? (not their Casino)

Cheers! Noticed that and allready edited my post . (so you are not hallusinating, if you are thinking did you red it right at the first time )

 

[akrus88]

WMS games have temporarily been removed from Betsafe because of technical issues. Hopefully they will be back up soon.

I have asked Nordicbet about restricted countries. Will let you know what they say

And this.. Sorry for being so blind. Just red the whole thread so quick, 'cause was so excited about the issue .

 

[rainmaker]

And this.. Sorry for being so blind. Just red the whole thread so quick, 'cause was so excited about the issue .

We are all a bit extra excited today hehe. WMS games at NetEnt casinos :clap::yahoo:

 

[dionysus]

if we get WMS, microgaming and NetEnt here, and BetSoft, microgaming and NetEnt at Redbet...what are single skew microgamings going to do?

 

[Patriot66]

1st post. Go easy!

I had a survey sent to me from Jackpot Party around 2 months ago asking whether I would play there less if their games were available elsewhere.

Obviously WMS were weighing up whether they could make more money from licensing the games rather than just having the revenue from the "exclusive" Jackpot Party site.

Undoubtedly the Jackpot Party revenue will fall off if the games are available on multiple sites (especially with the increased regular RTP due to no JPP).

Seems like they've compromised a little and only released the older games. Seems sensible.

Games like Ruby Slippers and Alice are (I would imagine) the most popular so they have probably got the best of both worlds.

Very nice to be able to play the games with a 96% RTP though. As a low roller, I've only ever hit the JPP twice in tens of thousands of spins (1 star both times) and the low RTP's kill your bankroll.

Licensing the older games to other sites seems to make a lot of sense all round.

 

[muziq]

thats nice news always wanted to play the game...

players from india accepted?

 

[KasinoKing]

It's a nice idea in theory, and I'd have no problem at all if it were voluntary. But the sad fact is that if you play at Jackpot Party you are forced to play progressives if you play any of their slots, and 92% RTP on the base games is pretty damn horrible.

It's the same with RTG tough; all their Real Series Slots have a compulsory progressive Random Jackpot contribution.
OK their % is lower (about 1.5% I think), but it's still there. And even worse is they refuse to tell players which RTP setting games they are running.

At least at Jackpot Party I have won their "Jackpot" a couple of times - even the 2-star one a few month back, which was VERY nice! For the relatively small amount of play-time I've done there I have no complaints about those.
On RTG I have NEVER won a random jackpot...

KK

 

[mrmark21]

Never played any of the WMS games before and next week i'm going to do some serious playtime Especially the Wizard of Oz

 

[hinchy]

It's the same with RTG tough; all their Real Series Slots have a compulsory progressive Random Jackpot contribution.
OK their % is lower (about 1.5% I think), but it's still there. And even worse is they refuse to tell players which RTP setting games they are running.

At least at Jackpot Party I have won their "Jackpot" a couple of times - even the 2-star one a few month back, which was VERY nice! For the relatively small amount of play-time I've done there I have no complaints about those.
On RTG I have NEVER won a random jackpot...

KK

In fairness to Jackpot party as well, no one can complain about their very low wagering requirements on bonuses.
In the last 3 weeks, on top of the regular monthly bonuses, they have sent me 3 100% match up to £200 with only 10x bonus wr

 

[Balthazar]

It's the same with RTG tough; all their Real Series Slots have a compulsory progressive Random Jackpot contribution.
OK their % is lower (about 1.5% I think), but it's still there. And even worse is they refuse to tell players which RTP setting games they are running.

The thing with progressive jackpots is you don't really know how much you contributed to them unless you keep track of the number of spins/bet size.

I'd be curious to know how much I contributed to the Mega Moolah jackpots versus how much I got back (~$500). If I contributed for $510 and won $500 back it's not that bad, but if I contributed for $1200 then it's pretty awful.

That said, the vast majority of players don't even realize that they "lose" some RTP when they play progressive slots.