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Who will be Next???

Discussion in 'America the Beautiful' started by The Watchdog, Feb 2, 2007.

    Feb 2, 2007
  1. The Watchdog

    The Watchdog Dormant account

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    Check it out
     
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  2. Feb 2, 2007
  3. brianzz

    brianzz Dormant account

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    Wonder if they'd ever have the balls to go after someone like microgaming
     
  4. Feb 2, 2007
  5. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    MG

    Whether or not the target IS Microgaming, this is bound to make the board want to pull out sooner rather than later, leaving RTG alone among the big operators to be a target. PLayers should be aware of what MAY happen if they have "too much" tied up in their accounts that they are likely to need for domestic reasons in the next month or two. Best to only have money that they can forget about in casinos till all this settles (if it ever does).
     
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  6. Feb 2, 2007
  7. soflat

    soflat Senior Member

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    Wouldn't it most likely be a sports betting organization or a payment processor? Maybe the folks at Pinnacle and Mansion caught wind of this and therefore decided to pull out of the US market very recently.

    You'd think they'd have enough sense not to travel to the US or its territories by now.
     
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  8. Feb 2, 2007
  9. WagerWitch

    WagerWitch Dormant account webmeister

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    Yeah - like - really? Hmmm do I have to work?
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    Oh - it's me...

    ROFLMAO --- Ok - so maybe it isn't me...

    but just maybe we should start putting aside bail money - eh?
     
  10. Feb 2, 2007
  11. soflat

    soflat Senior Member

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    Maybe they're planning to bust someone at the Super Bowl. That would send a message.
     
  12. Feb 2, 2007
  13. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    I seriously doubt that anybody that has anything to do with an online gaming company or processor will step one foot within the USA. The only reason they were able to arrest the Neteller guys is that they actually lived within the states.

    I would really really really love to see them try and extradite ANYONE from another country, no matter which one it is. That in itself would send a definite message once their request for extradition is denied. :thumbsup:
     
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  14. Feb 2, 2007
  15. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

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    I am not so certain. Under the US-UK extradition treaty, if Sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrane of Hazzard county claims that someone committed a crime, he has to be extradited and the Americans don't need to bother with awkward things like evidence.
     
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  16. Feb 2, 2007
  17. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Thing is, the DoJ know all they have to do is keep ensuring rumours are out there, feel the odd industry collar - even without a reason - and the rest will take care of itself. Legal, illegal, right and wrong - doesn't matter now the ball's rolling down the hill.
     
  18. Feb 2, 2007
  19. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

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    Personally I don't think RTG is going to get touched...

    If he was in the DoJ sights, he'd have been arrested already. He's still living and working in Atlanta as far as I know.

    I'm sure Michael Staw and everyone else over at RTG are & have been paying their taxes. So I highly doubt they'll be a target.

    Which, should strongly point to this not being a security issue, but a lost revenue agenda.
     
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  20. Feb 2, 2007
  21. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    Why wouldn't they be touched? They're offering a means to help "Illegal" businesses stay in business by providing their software.
     
  22. Feb 2, 2007
  23. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

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    OMG... Think they're going after Calvin Ayre (again)? Or do they already have warrants/subpoenas for him?
     
  24. Feb 2, 2007
  25. wangpoker

    wangpoker Experienced Member PABnononaccred2 webmeister

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    I think its Calvin Ayre!
     
  26. Feb 3, 2007
  27. Addisyn

    Addisyn Dormant account

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    Attention all casino execs. Leave the US now! Sell all your US holdings and go. That will show them!

    You would think the DOJ would have something better to do! Like arrest Cheney for treason. Jeez!
     
  28. Feb 3, 2007
  29. Rollo

    Rollo Dormant account

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    The same country that invaded Afganistan, Iraq and is laying the foundation for an invasion of Iran? No shortage of balls. Good judgement yes, balls no.

    The DOJ stated explicitly that they are going after those with the biggest impact, but they also seem to be playing is safe and sticking to sportsbetting related issues so far.

    So I would say... Bodog (they will DEFINATELY hit BoDog sooner or later) no doubt whatever.

    I think Party Poker is a good possibility given that these investigations started before the current legislation passed. That would make huge waves and really send the industry into chaos beucase those that pulled out have deluded themselves into believing they are safe.

    Microgaming would be huge.

    One thing is sure, more indictments are coming. Online gambling execs got too cocky and now I think the US is trying to show them, well, who's boss. They're no longer looking to just block access to US players, I think they are now out to crush the eniter industry globally since the industry looks to have all the fortitue of a wet tissue.

    The indictments are going to continue for years along with huge settlements, much unpleasantness to come. I've really been in awe at the destructive power of these folks - sort of like wathcing a tornado destoy a trailer park.

    The only good news is that Europe is making noise about challenging the US at the WTO. Antigua is meanless, but a decision in favor of the EU could mean something. On the other hand, I worry that a move like that would have the reverse effect and turn persecuting the gambling industry a matter of national pride in a sort of knee-jerk nationalism that my country is given to which could mean tougher legislation and harser prosecutions rather than a losening.

    Did anyone hear they are trying to give the Neteller guys 20 years ?! Jesus
     
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  30. Feb 3, 2007
  31. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    This Neteller case is definitely going to be a landmark.

    If you haven't heard there's this guy named Devlin. He kidnapped *supposedly at gunpoint* a young child 4 years ago, and they just now found him. What was his bail? $1M. What was the bail for these Neteller guys? $5M. You can definitely see where the USA has its priorities. Let's see how long this Devlin guy gets compared to the Neteller people.

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    As far as Bodog goes, they're really pushing their limits. I found out tonight via a phone call to them that they're still accepting sports bets OVER THE PHONE. Can we say "Wire act"?
     
  32. Feb 3, 2007
  33. Rollo

    Rollo Dormant account

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    Washington Post article

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    Washington Post article - I don't pay attention when a gambling site speculates, but I do when the Washington Post does. I wonder if there could be a major action right before, during, or after the Super Bowl? That would make news for sure.
     
  34. Feb 3, 2007
  35. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

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    Why haven't they been arrested?
     
  36. Feb 3, 2007
  37. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

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    Amazing isn't it? the US DoJ wants to stop online gambling so we arrest anyone who ever had anything to do with online gaming (as long as they have access to lots of money), and then we (the DoJ) proceed to extort millions of dollars from them....
     
  38. Feb 3, 2007
  39. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

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    Second page of this article causes me a little concern.

    "I'm sure they will get their money back. You've got to give Neteller a bit of space."

    This comes from the spokesperson for Neteller George Cazenove.

    I'm sure isn't exaxctly a positive YES...Sure, it's more than a maybe...But, anything but a YES, would start to send alarm bells ringing for me.

    Sounds too much like what I've heard from casino's that are about to go ass up.
     
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