Inetbet bonuses - do people hit larger winnings with them?

[Savatage79]

I feel bad for my father who got a little 25 dollar manager bonus, and went in and racked up 4500 bucks. And I told him watch that probably has some tiny ass max cash and sure enough its x10. I mean where is anyone going with such a small return like that?

But what's funny and peculiar to me is how on bonuses I've heard people talk about and when I at one time uses them here and there my play sessions would be incredible. That seems so convinient doesn't it?

Just sucks. He was so pumped up... And they fucking shot him down. They absolutely turn up the knob on bonuses just so they can shut you down ultimately.

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[The Dude]

It's not the bonuses fault, nor does it have anything to do with a bonus. I have played my fair share of RTG games - rarely taking a bonus if ever. Bonuses have no effect on the outcome of the game. It increases your bankroll, so statistically you have more chances of winning/losing. You don't normally remember your losses, but you remember your wins.

And all bonuses have strings attached. It's all in their terms and conditions as you are well aware. So if you have a bonus that has a max cashout, play blackjack or video poker so you won't be too disappointed

Or play without. You'll find it refreshing to not worry about capped winnings or disallowed games. I do that all the time.

 

[Savatage79]

It's not the bonuses fault, nor does it have anything to do with a bonus. I have played my fair share of RTG games - rarely taking a bonus if ever. Bonuses have no effect on the outcome of the game. It increases your bankroll, so statistically you have more chances of winning/losing. You don't normally remember your losses, but you remember your wins.

And all bonuses have strings attached. It's all in their terms and conditions as you are well aware. So if you have a bonus that has a max cashout, play blackjack or video poker so you won't be too disappointed

Or play without. You'll find it refreshing to not worry about capped winnings or disallowed games. I do that all the time.

But I will be honest tho, sloto and bovada cash back bonuses have no strings. They give a percentage back based on deposits which is nice and I think he was expecting the same, and you can rack them up and it has no max cash out.

It's the only "bonus" I personally will ever touch because of stuff like this.

But my issue is it seems these places on people's bonus money will jack up the odds in their favor, I've seen so many people claim they won JPs on bonus cash just to not be able to take it and I don't think that's all coincidental

 

[nisosbar]

But I will be honest tho, sloto and bovada cash back bonuses have no strings. They give a percentage back based on deposits which is nice and I think he was expecting the same, and you can rack them up and it has no max cash out.

It's the only "bonus" I personally will ever touch because of stuff like this.

But my issue is it seems these places on people's bonus money will jack up the odds in their favor, I've seen so many people claim they won JPs on bonus cash just to not be able to take it and I don't think that's all coincidental

I veer sometimes from Sloto and Uptown but I always go back. It is a decent outfit run professionally, IMO. It has its ups and downs, but always seems to land on its feet.

I like Inetbet, but not the tight terms of their bonuses. In addition, Inet has some funky cashout rules, so even though I get some nice wins there, I stay away.

 

[The Reel Story]

But my issue is it seems these places on people's bonus money will jack up the odds in their favor, I've seen so many people claim they won JPs on bonus cash just to not be able to take it and I don't think that's all coincidental

This is just a bias. People out there winning JP's on regular cash are taking their money and having a nice day. People who get capped cause of a bonus are on forums shouting about it. A vocal minority does not equal the truth

Casino's don't (and can't, and it would be illegal in a regulated market) change the odds at any point. Slots don't work like that.

 

[Savatage79]

This is just a bias. People out there winning JP's on regular cash are taking their money and having a nice day. People who get capped cause of a bonus are on forums shouting about it. A vocal minority does not equal the truth

Casino's don't (and can't, and it would be illegal in a regulated market) change the odds at any point. Slots don't work like that.

I've hit a few JP's, in fact just hit one for 13k in February.. I'm not saying people don't win on real money as I've won over 6 digits in the recent years... BUT I still believe that there's a lot of people that seem to have "extra" luck with bonuses just to have casinos strip their winnings away with some dumb max cash rule.


And when dealing with these oversea casinos, illegal imo can go out the window.. So I don't put it past anyone to fiddle.

I'm not saying it's a fact but it's how it feels.

 

[The Reel Story]

I've hit a few JP's, in fact just hit one for 13k in February.. I'm not saying people don't win on real money as I've won over 6 digits in the recent years... BUT I still believe that there's a lot of people that seem to have "extra" luck with bonuses just to have casinos strip their winnings away with some dumb max cash rule.


And when dealing with these oversea casinos, illegal imo can go out the window.. So I don't put it past anyone to fiddle.

I'm not saying it's a fact but it's how it feels.

The Caveat is always 'Is it an unregulated Casino?', if so, then that is the wild west and anything is possible (although still unlikely because it would be a technical pain in the butt and would require an equally dodgy game provider who doesn't want to put their legitimate licences at risk).

But in any properly regulated market, it won't be the case. Appreciate it can feel like it though. As I say, that is due to the cognitive bias. It's human nature

 

[Savatage79]

So the same thing happened to him again, he logged into his account and there was 250.00 manager bonus. Now he didn't talk to me first else I would've probably said let's just make sure all stips.

So heres the kicker... And I've noticed this as well...but when they put manager bonus's they "don't" show a playthru.. I don't know why they don't but they don't. So he clicked it and of course it showed no playthru, it said he could withdraw 250.00 of 250.00.. So he assumed it was free and clear bonus.

Hes older so doesn't always remember. But he racked up 8500 bucks...and they declined any cash out. They said his max bet was to high, think he hit it a few times at 25 bucks.

What sucks tho is imo their site isn't really the easiest to find all the info especially for older ones. It isn't front and center on bonus rules etc...but I admit the bonuses being able to withdraw instantly can throw someone off.

But yea it's a shame they wouldn't even just honor 2500 as their x10 max cashout.

Still tho do some agree it's a little deceptive that they don't show any playthru on those manager bonus's and say it can be withdrawn?

 

[nisosbar]

I'm not sure but I won't play there anymore because I distrust them because of these weird rules and such. Plenty of other popular casinos that will give you low (or no) WR bonuses, no "max bet" nonsense. These kinds of hurdles just destroy the sense of fun which is ultimately what gaming is about. "If I win, will I get paid? Let's look at the algorithm..." But that's sort of how they've always been, so it's not like this is anything new.

As to your question, do I hit better with their bonuses, I've almost never taken their bonuses so I don't have a point of comparison to a run off of a strictly cash deposit.

 

[Savatage79]

I'm not sure but I won't play there anymore because I distrust them because of these weird rules and such. Plenty of other popular casinos that will give you low (or no) WR bonuses, no "max bet" nonsense. These kinds of hurdles just destroy the sense of fun which is ultimately what gaming is about. "If I win, will I get paid? Let's look at the algorithm..." But that's sort of how they've always been, so it's not like this is anything new.

As to your question, do I hit better with their bonuses, I've almost never taken their bonuses so I don't have a point of comparison to a run off of a strictly cash deposit.

Hey niso, well the last post I just figured I'd just toss in here instead of make a brand new thread. But if I were to make a new thread it would be more along the lines of how inetbet especially I think obscures their rules a bit. Especially playthru... I'll show next time but the fact that when you get these manager bonus's it shows 0 dollar playthru... Wouldn't that equate to most people that it's free and clear?

I think that's where I'm bugged is they sorta ensnare people who may not he as keen on how it works. A bonus that has invisible rules I think is a major wrong doing imo

@KasinoKing id be curious your take as well KK. I know I saw around here somewhere that inetbet is sorta propped up or a trusted site. Manager bonuses that you get and show zero playthru, do you think that's sort of a trap for players?

 

[KasinoKing]

@KasinoKing id be curious your take as well KK. I know I saw around here somewhere that inetbet is sorta propped up or a trusted site. Manager bonuses that you get and show zero playthru, do you think that's sort of a trap for players?

Sorry, I can't answer your question. I don't play at iNetBet and I don' think I've ever had a Managers Bonus at any RTG casino.
It does SOUND a bit like a "trap", but as they are reputable I think that's very unlikely.

KK

 

[Savatage79]

Sorry, I can't answer your question. I don't play at iNetBet and I don' think I've ever had a Managers Bonus at any RTG casino.
It does SOUND a bit like a "trap", but as they are reputable I think that's very unlikely.

KK

Ah I got ya. Yea I dunno just think they sorta really can mess with people on that. You get these bonuses and they show them as withdrawalable and I think that is just wrong, I don't get why it doesn't show the x10 playthru I believe it is.

 

[Deeplay]

When I played at Inetbet years back (around 5 or 6 if i recall) never actually had any issues on cash out times ect but was offered a few manager bonuses over time which I rare took because of max cashout rules plus finding playthrough was impossible for me so I just left them. Same as the birthday bonuses which up until last year I was still getting emails on. They have always had pretty rough bonus terms and conditions.

 

[Savatage79]

When I played at Inetbet years back (around 5 or 6 if i recall) never actually had any issues on cash out times ect but was offered a few manager bonuses over time which I rare took because of max cashout rules plus finding playthrough was impossible for me so I just left them. Same as the birthday bonuses which up until last year I was still getting emails on. They have always had pretty rough bonus terms and conditions.

Yea, I just think it's just funny how on those manager bonuses my dad willy nilly racks up nicely and reject the payouts for reasons.

Only bonus I use are slotocash, slotastic etc.... Cash back. Has no max cashout and a pretty low wagering.

 

[moose06]

It's not the bonuses fault, nor does it have anything to do with a bonus. I have played my fair share of RTG games - rarely taking a bonus if ever. Bonuses have no effect on the outcome of the game. It increases your bankroll, so statistically you have more chances of winning/losing. You don't normally remember your losses, but you remember your wins.

And all bonuses have strings attached. It's all in their terms and conditions as you are well aware. So if you have a bonus that has a max cashout, play blackjack or video poker so you won't be too disappointed

Or play without. You'll find it refreshing to not worry about capped winnings or disallowed games. I do that all the time.

So I agree with 99% of your response but I firmly after 7 years of playing online continue to believe that no matter what is said about random number generator Etc that each and every bit of your play is manipulated in one way or another and that would include bonuses and that's the most egregious one I mean you can honestly cannot tell a difference between playthrough and a bonus and non playthrough with a if he did no play through and I really pay the bonus either but when I do I can guarantee you that 80% of the time I'm going to bank up some real nice winds 75% of the way through the playthrough and then suddenly it'll completely dry up so like I said I mean I agree with a bunch of it and also the plays you're out to your own risk and you know what's happening you know what's happening but the point of it not playing different when there is a place to go through and when there isn't is unbelievably illogical if you can just watch it happen

 

[moose06]

But I will be honest tho, sloto and bovada cash back bonuses have no strings. They give a percentage back based on deposits which is nice and I think he was expecting the same, and you can rack them up and it has no max cash out.

It's the only "bonus" I personally will ever touch because of stuff like this.

But my issue is it seems these places on people's bonus money will jack up the odds in their favor, I've seen so many people claim they won JPs on bonus cash just to not be able to take it and I don't think that's all coincidental

 

[moose06]

So I hear you and agree with the majority of reply but can you honestly say that playing with a bonus is not playing structurally differently I mean it's so absolutely obvious anytime there is a playthrough that nine times out of 10 you'll be able to play through 75% of that play through and that are completely dry up and that's just I mean that's a parent it's not even close to saying that there's no effect it's literally watch it happen each and every time in over 7 years that's the exact experience I'll get you know when you're going to actually cash and you know how much they want you to cash