Which RTG casinos SUCK? Which RULE? Shout it out HERE!

[bernynhel]

Doesn't work that way. When you hit the stop button the reel changes anyway.

I like the stop buttons. I mash the eff out of 'em. I think they can make a big difference.

 

[chayton]

I use the stop button sometimes just to speed up the reels - that way my money goes even faster!

Is anyone playing at All Star Slots now who used to play when they were Wizard? They transferred my account when they switched software but gave me some funky username and password that I can't remember. I thought I had the email with the un/pass around but can't find it whenever I want to play there so I end up going somewhere where I know who I am.

 

[eu_lowroller]

@chayton, they have a live chat, so you should ask them for your User ID, because this should not be any problem i think

 

[skiny]

I use the stop button sometimes just to speed up the reels - that way my money goes even faster!

Is anyone playing at All Star Slots now who used to play when they were Wizard? They transferred my account when they switched software but gave me some funky username and password that I can't remember. I thought I had the email with the un/pass around but can't find it whenever I want to play there so I end up going somewhere where I know who I am.

I play at All Star Slots but I just joined. I guarantee you that if you had an account in good standing at the old casino and you tell them you want to deposit they'll find a way pretty quick.

 

[Mavin1]

Well H*ll, I guess it can happen!

I decided since I had Inetbet on my pc I would go ahead and play for real. I deposited $40 took the bonus for new slots only 100% made my WR after a few hours and am cashing out $412. Played the new Aztec for awhile, jumped over to Triple Twister and was hitting the bonus rounds 6 or 7 different times. The first paying out over $400, actually got 3 twisters stacked in the center, when it was done the next $154, then $98, of course got a couple stinkers too that gave like $28, $6.32 and such.
But for a casino platform that I love to hate, I have to admit, it can sometimes surprise me, just wish it wasn't so hit and miss and miss and miss, well you know how it goes.
But thanks Inetbet!

 

[eu_lowroller]

I never thought, that i'll post this, but although "All Star Slots" WAS my favourite RTG Casino, since my very first and last withdrawal in beginning october, i've made 13 deposits, between $25 and $150 and they all was only a charity for the casino, because i had never again at least some playtime, because the money went faster as an airplane!
The payout% was at the most time only between 50-60% (i've seen this, because of the very less comp points, which were created) but the support told me, that i have a full payout% with 78% or so, but that's only, because of my one and only withdrawal in october, so no matter how good their support is and how good their bonuses can be, what does it care, when i have no more playtime since my first withdrawal and even not any chance to win something at least?

I know that RTG slots are high variance, but when i have a balance with $40 and i got never any respin at least on "Realm of Riches" then i must certainly think, that there is something really strange, because normally with a $40 i have at least a good palytime and some free spins, but nothing of them happen here, so i'll stop now to donate this money eaters

I'll stay only to Jackpot Capital, because i had there also some withdrawals, but never the feeling, that my payout% was switched to 50% or so, because after a cashout form my wins.

 

[bernynhel]

This may not be very scientific. But ain't it great to compare notes and see how many other CM members wanna vent on the same RTG casinos that you do?

Jackpot Capital, by the way, is way on top a the heap in this thread and I didn't even have to count.

InetBet is easily 2nd and Grande Vegas is pretty damn mixed - like a love/hate thang. I ain't messin' with 'em! Anway, I'm a try Jackpot Capital and InetBet for now. I don't think I need to experiment with any others for now. Thanks everybody!

 

[Nifty29]

I watched to see how many times the colosseum scrolled by on the last reel and it always scrolls by right when you get a ceasar and then not again, so you don't even have a chance of hitting the stop button to try to catch it.

It is VERY important that everyone understands that the STOP button has absolutely NO effect on the outcome of the spin. The exact positions of the reels are determined the second you hit 'SPIN' and nothing you do after that can make any difference at all. I guess its up to the individual if they want to believe otherwise, but it is a known fact so dont be disappointed if it doesnt appear to 'work'.

So what I am thinking is there have been some colosseums removed from this last reel to decrease the chances of hitting a bonus round.

In my experience, there has only every been one colosseum symbol on the last reel. Ive been playing it for years and never known it to be any different.


Insofar as on RTG paying our better than another, it is well known that operators can alter the payouts to 3 different setting within the 90% range. However, it is impossible to decipher which casino is set to which % based on one of even a few sessions - losing sessions can happen even at high % RTP casinos and the few % difference between settings will only be seen over a large amount of spins.

Remember, although you may have a 25% return session, someone else may have just had a 170% session on another game, so IMO it isnt reasonable to diss a casino based on one or two losing sessions. Ive had some nice wins lately at RTG, and also some nasty sessions. As far as I can tell, it depends on the variance of the slot as to whether you are likely to have a really low % session. Someone mentioned having 62 spins @$2 on a slot for a $24 return - this is not unusual and its quite likely that you will bust out quickly betting $2 from a $100 bankroll. My advice is always have a minimum of 100 bets to start with, but again its a personal thing....however 62 bad spins is very much within the norm and can (and does) happen at any other casino.

My fav RTG is Inet, Buzzluck, Jackpot Capital and Titan. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lost and I find very little difference between any of them...my RTG choices are based on customer service and payout speed.

 

[silcnlayc]

Nifty29: In my experience, there has only every been one colosseum symbol on the last reel. Ive been playing it for years and never known it to be any different.

Hogwash....I say this because I get tired of so many saying "nothing has changed".....when we KNOW it has...the last reel HAS been adjusted...I have been playing that game since day one...

I KNOW it has changed...proving it is another story....as I said before, only way one can PROVE anything with these casinos is to be the one DOING the changing...or the second choice is to have spun hundreds of thousands of spins on a game...and I am in the second catagory.

The colosseum on the last reel ALWAYS passed by on EVERY spin before..now it passes by every 5th to 10th spin...believe what you like..it has been changed...

No offense....just, it is what it is...and JMO...


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[Dinahnana]

Remember, although you may have a 25% return session, someone else may have just had a 170% session on another game, so IMO it isnt reasonable to diss a casino based on one or two losing sessions. Ive had some nice wins lately at RTG, and also some nasty sessions. As far as I can tell, it depends on the variance of the slot as to whether you are likely to have a really low % session. Someone mentioned having 62 spins @$2 on a slot for a $24 return - this is not unusual and its quite likely that you will bust out quickly betting $2 from a $100 bankroll. My advice is always have a minimum of 100 bets to start with, but again its a personal thing....however 62 bad spins is very much within the norm and can (and does) happen at any other casino.

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I agree with what your saying however in my opinion I think some casinos like Casino Titan changed their payouts in recent months based on over 30 losing sessions. You can have a bad luck streak I know but that usually does not last over every single deposit for several months following one cashout. One night I decided to experiment to see if my odds would improve and deposited over 6 times at $100 a pop using 100% deposit match bonuses and there was no change. People are not stupid and will notice changes over time. At other times I have deposited and did not use any bonus but had no change at all in the game play. A few really bad sessions are normal in my opnion but every one over a period of months is not. Its to a point where I feel I have no hope of ever getting to the cashout stage with Casino Titan. However to be fair I will give them one more chance this weekend and see if I can get some decent play with my money. If I dont then I will not be playing at this particular casino again for a while.

 

[silcnlayc]

Someone mentioned having 62 spins @$2 on a slot for a $24 return - this is not unusual and its quite likely that you will bust out quickly betting $2 from a $100 bankroll

I was the one who said this...and I say bologne...on this...

this is not unusual

I cannot believe you can sit there and say how good these casinos are (RTG"s) when anyone who isn't blind can see something is different about them...

There was a time a $100 lasted for quite a long time even at $2 a spin...and for you to sit there and keep saying all is good...and keep having players think they can still have a decent time at any RTG...I say shame on you for giving that impression when almost everyone here KNOWS something is off with them...

Are you by any chance promoting them in any way? Just curious..

it depends on the variance of the slot

Another BS line.....geez...

I mean no offense...but it seems you are very alone in these thoughts about how all is the same with these casinos...

I still pop into an RTG every once in a while and play a few spins....but these visits have gotten to be shorter and shorter and are going to be nil soon...because RTG casinos really have gotten so tight that it is absolutely ridiculous to even consider playing them anymore...until something changes or until they go broke...and my money is they are going to go broke if they continue down this path they have chosen these last 2 years..by literally stealing players money...and that has gotten old to many savvy players..who have moved on and beyond RTG's...

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[De Beuker]

Insofar as on RTG paying our better than another, it is well known that operators can alter the payouts to 3 different setting within the 90% range. However, it is impossible to decipher which casino is set to which % based on one of even a few sessions - losing sessions can happen even at high % RTP casinos and the few % difference between settings will only be seen over a large amount of spins.

Remember, although you may have a 25% return session, someone else may have just had a 170% session on another game, so IMO it isnt reasonable to diss a casino based on one or two losing sessions. Ive had some nice wins lately at RTG, and also some nasty sessions. As far as I can tell, it depends on the variance of the slot as to whether you are likely to have a really low % session. Someone mentioned having 62 spins @$2 on a slot for a $24 return - this is not unusual and its quite likely that you will bust out quickly betting $2 from a $100 bankroll. My advice is always have a minimum of 100 bets to start with, but again its a personal thing....however 62 bad spins is very much within the norm and can (and does) happen at any other casino.

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I think the difference between 96% RTP and 92% RTP is definately noticable, as the house-edge increases with 100%.
That would mean that on avarage, you will get only half of the playtime you got before.
And thats what many people experience these days.
And I thought I read somewhere that the highest setting is 97% and the lowest 91%, but I'm not sure.
Would mean 150% more house edge..

But I agree with you that you cannot tell anything from just a few hundred spins.

 

[TOC]

Confucius says...

"He who chase progressive will get exhausted."

 

[Nifty29]

Geez give an opinion based on personal experience and someone has to get personal.

'Shame on me' for sharing my own thoughts? Please.

Now, on a point-by-point basis:

I cannot believe you can sit there and say how good these casinos are (RTG"s)

I didnt say anything about 'how good these casinos are'. All I said was they I have both LOST and WON at RTG casinos, and that my CHOICE of casino is based on customer service and payout times - NOT my perception of their payout % (there is no way I can personally work out what it is as I cant afford millions of spins), so I think you need to calm down a little there.

There was a time a $100 lasted for quite a long time even at $2 a spin...and for you to sit there and keep saying all is good...and keep having players think they can still have a decent time at any RTG...I say shame on you for giving that impression when almost everyone here KNOWS something is off with them...

Again, Im not saying RTG are better or worse than any other software. Im saying that IN MY EXPERIENCE Ive had some nice wins AND some losses.

The point Im making is that you can have horrible losing sessions at MG and Rival etc just as easily, and it DOES depend on which slot you play. I know you dont think it matters, but in regards to play time the variance of the slot is extremely important. I mean, you are far more likely to lose your $100 quickly on Rain Dance than you are on Diamond Dozen for instance.... but when you hit a big one on Rain Dance its HUGE.

Have a look through some of Enzo's posts about variance and you will see it is directly related to how long your bankroll might last.

Are you by any chance promoting them in any way? Just curious..Another BS line.....geez...

I mean no offense...but it seems you are very alone in these thoughts about how all is the same with these casinos...

What you are saying here is 'No offense, but you're talking bullsh*t'...how could anyone be offended by someone telling them that?? Next time you want to say that to someone, dont waste your time putting the 'no offense' part in as you obviously dont mean it.

I dont promote any casino FWIW, so my opinions are personal opinions. Sorry.

I still pop into an RTG every once in a while and play a few spins....but these visits have gotten to be shorter and shorter and are going to be nil soon...because RTG casinos really have gotten so tight that it is absolutely ridiculous to even consider playing them anymore...until something changes or until they go broke...and my money is they are going to go broke if they continue down this path they have chosen these last 2 years..by literally stealing players money...and that has gotten old to many savvy players..who have moved on and beyond RTG's...

You obviously feel strongly about how bad RTG is, so why do you even bother to 'pop in' or whatever?? Just avoid them if you think they are ripping you off. Why would anyone who 'knew' (and you said that you 'know') they are being fleeced keep going back for more???? I just dont get that part.

If I felt I 'couldnt' win or that it 'seemed' impossible for me to win at RTG casinos, I would stop playing them - simple. However, that isnt my experience so Ill keep playing until that time arrives.

Everyone here knows I respect contrary opinions, but I dont appreciate your attempts to portray me as 'stupid' or 'full of BS' - its childish.

As for the Colosseum slot.....we just have to agree to disagree. If you want to provide the proof, you should detail every spin you have for the next 100,000 spins and see what happens - unfortunately its the only way you can do it. Again, if you think that slot has been changed and is ripping off, why are you still playing it????

 

[TOC]

It's ok Nifty, RTG is probably the top U.S. player software, as history shows when you're on top people complain.. Gotta love the RTG threads.

 

[bernynhel]

I'd kinna have to agree with Nifty about $2 spins and $100 bankrolls. I wouldn't think it'd be that easy to make 400 wagers with that combination let alone cash out any winnings anywhere. When I deposit $100 most of my slot wagers are in the $0.25-0.50 range. If I'm lucky enough to grow my roll to $400-500 then some wagers would drift up into the $2 range. To extend my playtime I try to keep wagers under 1/2% of my roll. I know sometimes it's like tryin to get to the center of a tootsie pop in more than 1 lick but that's the strategy I at least go in with.

 

[Nifty29]

Just FYI for everybody reading this thread:

TOC OPERATES AN RTG CASINO

Im not saying anything else, just making sure everyone is aware.


@bern - yep bankroll management is what turned things around for me many years ago.

 

[edspeere]

RTG's

All RTG's SUCK!

 

[TOC]

Just FYI for everybody reading this thread:

TOC OPERATES AN RTG CASINO

Im not saying anything else, just making sure everyone is aware.


@bern - yep bankroll management is what turned things around for me many years ago.

Oh please I was supporting your actions but you want to slander my name here at CM. Isn't that wrong around here. Bla Bla TOC is an RTC Casino, guess what I'm not a casino operator but merely an affiliate just like several posters on this site and BTW I don't advertise my URL like many do! Don't try and stir up crap with me and if you'd do your homework you'd see my affiliate site is highly respected here at CM. Max - warning this poster is out of line, I will behave around here but won't accept insults about my website just as CM and yourself! Chill out people...

 

[Nifty29]

Oh please I was supporting your actions but you want to slander my name here at CM. Isn't that wrong around here. Bla Bla TOC is an RTC Casino, guess what I'm not a casino operator but merely an affiliate just like several posters on this site and BTW I don't advertise my URL like many do! Don't try and stir up crap with me and if you'd do your homework you'd see my affiliate site is highly respected here at CM. Max - warning this poster is out of line, I will behave around here but won't accept insults about my website just as CM and yourself! Chill out people...

OK well you were the one who listed a particular RTG casino in your profile for which you were the webmaster....and this is the first time you have disputed being an RTG operator...you may technically be an affiliate but, from what you have said, you run a 'white label' operation which is a little different.

As for the slander.....where do you get that from?? What did I say that was slanderous?? All I did was state a well-known fact. I didnt insult you or degrade you in any way, and how can I slander or insult your website when I didnt even name it???

The point I was trying to make to other readers is that when you post:

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RTG is probably the top U.S. player software, as history shows when you're on top people complain..

..it is with bias. You have many times before taken the opportunity to spruik how wonderful RTG is, which just happens to be the software that 'your' casino operates on.

You have stated here at CM before that you have your 'own' casino which runs on RTG, so you are hardly going to come out and say anything negative about RTG are you?

I think the reason you have gone off the deep end here is that you dont like people drawing attention to your close relationship with RTG, and, as a result, taking your 'RTG is da bomb' statements with a grain of salt.

 

[TOC]

OK well you were the one who listed a particular RTG casino in your profile for which you were the webmaster....and this is the first time you have disputed being an RTG operator...you may technically be an affiliate but, from what you have said, you run a 'white label' operation which is a little different.

As for the slander.....where do you get that from?? What did I say that was slanderous?? All I did was state a well-known fact. I didnt insult you or degrade you in any way, and how can I slander or insult your website when I didnt even name it???

The point I was trying to make to other readers is that when you post:

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..it is with bias. You have many times before taken the opportunity to spruik how wonderful RTG is, which just happens to be the software that 'your' casino operates on.

You have stated here at CM before that you have your 'own' casino which runs on RTG, so you are hardly going to come out and say anything negative about RTG are you?

I think the reason you have gone off the deep end here is that you dont like people drawing attention to your close relationship with RTG, and, as a result, taking your 'RTG is da bomb' statements with a grain of salt.

Are you a cop? Yea I did make the mistake of listing my url, what 3 months ago in my profile and deleted it quickly. To many freaks trying to slander me. Who cares if I run a white label, a white label is nothing more than a affiliate site and I make money just like CM and several other people on this site. Don't downgrade a white label unless it's rogue and you know what your talking about. My white label is RTG and supported by the MAIN STREET GROUP, that's accredited around here. I'm not going off the deep end it's just posters like you trying to stir up crap for NO reason that sucks. Why don't you slam CM for being a RTG supporter with all the RTG links around here. Leave me alone and GO ON. Maybe it's posters like you that I'm not seeing new threads around here. Trying to behave people but GEESH give me a freakin break!!

 

[TOC]

OK well you were the one who listed a particular RTG casino in your profile for which you were the webmaster....and this is the first time you have disputed being an RTG operator...you may technically be an affiliate but, from what you have said, you run a 'white label' operation which is a little different.

As for the slander.....where do you get that from?? What did I say that was slanderous?? All I did was state a well-known fact. I didnt insult you or degrade you in any way, and how can I slander or insult your website when I didnt even name it???

The point I was trying to make to other readers is that when you post:

,

..it is with bias. You have many times before taken the opportunity to spruik how wonderful RTG is, which just happens to be the software that 'your' casino operates on.

You have stated here at CM before that you have your 'own' casino which runs on RTG, so you are hardly going to come out and say anything negative about RTG are you?

I think the reason you have gone off the deep end here is that you dont like people drawing attention to your close relationship with RTG, and, as a result, taking your 'RTG is da bomb' statements with a grain of salt.

Why do you "thank" this reply JAS2587, courious. What's the problem with me or my website??

 

[Nifty29]

Why don't you slam CM for being a RTG supporter with all the RTG links around here.

The difference here is when an RTG thread pops up/someone has an issue etc etc, he doesnt come in and start posting about how great RTG is...he addresses the issue and gives an opinion which, in my experience, is unbiased.

You still dont get it TOC. I wasnt saying ANYTHING negative or inappropriate about your website...I didnt even name is for goodness sake. I just referred to the fact that you were a white label operator. You insisted you were 'just an affiliate', but then you admitted you were an operator as per above which is a different thing altogether, so Im not sure why you wouldnt just say that.

I didnt 'slam' you either - please point out where you think I did.

As for slander, the defence to that is truth, and I didnt lie.

I mean, why not just say "Im a white label operator with RTG and they are great to work with, the operation is sound, and we have a lot of winners etc etc. I think they are the best software by a mile"...??...well, because others would say "well you would say that you are part of the operation' and just see it as bias. So, you just post about how great they are etc as a 'regular player'.

Im sorry if I offended you, it wasnt my intention and still isnt.

 

[jas2587]

As for the slander.....where do you get that from?? What did I say that was slanderous?? All I did was state a well-known fact. I didnt insult you or degrade you in any way, and how can I slander or insult your website when I didnt even name it???.

I thanked it for the above reason Nifty did not slander you

I have no problem with you nor your website I dont even know the name of your website but i bet $5 I could find it

Cindy

 

[TOC]

The fact is, if this tread is read Nify and you Jas don't know what you're talking about. I've done nothing wrong inside the thread but make a post and here ya come, trying to stir up crap. I see why people get banned around here cause you guys lead them on. Not good, you should adjust yourself. If you have facts post them but this crap is nothing more than crap as far as I see it. Someone will see my point.. BTW - Web definitions for slander
words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another.