We had an agreement that 3Dice was to have a third party audit done on its software/RNG when they came on board. But since this hasn't been done yet, they've been removed until a third party audit is in place.
RNG and/or software must be audited by a third party.
Recently, I relaunched the Accredited Section with the standards for Accredited casinos being a bit more detailed. One of them is the following:
I gave all of the operators a heads up on all the new standards at the end of May - most of whom came back to me stating no problem. I also realized at this time (going through all my old emails) that when I brought 3Dice on in Jan 2008 it was on the condition that they would have 3rd party auditing in place soon. One and a half years is not "soon" for me.
No PABs, no submitted complaints, nothing that perked my ears up. I've just made the standards more concise - that's all; I need to ensure that the casinos listed here meet these.
I think that was a very good move after being the recipient of 2 glitches in their games.Originally Posted by Casinomeister
We had an agreement that 3Dice was to have a third party audit done on its software/RNG when they came on board. But since this hasn't been done yet, they've been removed until a third party audit is in place.
Enzo nor 3Dice will get a Third Party Audit
Bryan asked him well over 1 1/2 yrs ago to get it
many players have requested it he has always skirted the issue
cause he doesnt want to have 1 done
wow that might show just how his games really are so he is scared IMO
he wont even send players their own play logs
Cindy
Cindy,
I cant agree with you yet. Since this issue is now being widely discussed we should give Enzo the benfit of the doubt and hopefully the 3rd Party Audit will be conducted very very soon. I am sure many of us here want to know the results of the audit especially since Enzo has always been mentioning Variance and an audit will shed some light on this. I understand that at times some players have requested and actually gotten their % payouts since playing at 3 Dice but this was mingled with bonuses with some even tourney wins or no-deposit bonuses. I would hope that we get some stats about the RTP on the slots alone.
Actually it took less than 24 hours. I didn't see any problems with the way it was broken down. Maybe I am missing something? See below:
"Bonus:
Tourney Prize XXX $
Promo code - XXX $
Promo code -
Loyalty XXX $
Comp Points XXX $
----------------------------
TOTAL : XXXXX $
For reference - all you financial data-deposits, withdrawals , bonuses- can
also be found under your cashier /Banking/History.
I will attach here bellow your game stats, since you joined us on 2008/06/08
until Present:
Game Bets Average Bets Percentage
SquirrelPike 2596 2.55$ 91.22%
Tutankhamon 2501 2.26$ 93.12%
HappyValley 15436 2.92$ 88.25%
FortuneFalls 25228 4.46$ 105.86%
Industria 2537 3.14$ 118.47%
Solitaire_v2 4188 5.14$ 98.87%
Poker_new_
multihand -
Bonus 30 0.25$ 108.00%
SuperSuits 157 0.42$ 30.81%
Poker_new_
multihand -
Jackpot 412 1.14$ 99.74%
RedDog 5637 5.41$ 99.63%
caribbeanstudpoker 2747 16.88$ 97.28%
BlackJack_Classic 297 3.56$ 96.83%
War 94 1.52$ 93.01%
Jackpot 2545 0.75$ 82.75%
DoubleDice 2473 0.50$ 94.88%
MedievalMoolah 124 4.91$ 223.88%
Payola 4951 2.83$ 97.55%
Slotronomicon 94 6.14$ 34.30%
Poker_new
_multihand -
Triple Bonus 58 4.00$ 118.36%
MoolahLight 170 1.73$ 51.25%
Aztec 6446 4.12$ 107.62%
Sicbo 387 18.53$ 93.42%
TexasHoldemBonus 15 22.00$ 42.42%
OldGlory-ROR 945 1.04$ 91.10%
Poker_new -
All American 34 0.30$ 88.24%
ThreeCardPoker 85 0.27$ 95.26% "
Maybe Casinomeister is still in their plans, as this is still on their front page.
here here!
Enzo I will pay for the Thrid party audit if you like, pm me-let's talk about it.
I do think it is strange because he is very vocal when someone disagrees with his casino but now he is mum on the one thing everyone is thinking...why has there been any audit yet????Don't you peeps think that it is purdy damn strange that Enzo has not even bothered to address this issue here with all of the members that have so loyally supported him and 3Dice since Bryan gave him accreditation here for as long as he did. I actually think its purdy damn RUDE myself for him to not only dis all of the loyal players here but Bryan as well by not making a public statement here in the forum regarding this issue!
Why would you do this? I'm confused? I'm sure 3Dice has plenty of money.
Am I thinking of something else...I remember someone having an audit done there, but didn't like to discuss it? What happened with that audit?
Anyone with half a lick of sense is going to show the Casinomeister awards or at the very least a connection to Casinomeister and try to garner and capitalize on the Casinomeister name and influence.
Certified Fair Gambling audited 3-Dice blackjack in December 2007/January 2008. It was determined at that time to be a statistically fair game and the audit was discussed on this site.
A fairness audit is a contract between a software developer and a third party to verify game fairness using statistical tests and to verifty payouts. Some comments in this thread imply that the results of such an audit would be made public. The auditing company checks that the slots are producing the payout percentages indicated in their documentation. There is no assumption that the payouts or RTP reports for the games (especially the slots/keno/bingo) will be made public by the auditor or the casino, although that is often the case. In particular, slot payout percentages and variance are proprietary.