What happened to 3Dice

Casinomeister

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We had an agreement that 3Dice was to have a third party audit done on its software/RNG when they came on board. But since this hasn't been done yet, they've been removed until a third party audit is in place.
 

same_old

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We had an agreement that 3Dice was to have a third party audit done on its software/RNG when they came on board. But since this hasn't been done yet, they've been removed until a third party audit is in place.


Now that is something I would love to see.

Do you think we will see something like this from them soon enough?

how long have they been off the accredited list?

what prompted you to ask for a third party audit and is this what you ask of all the software providers you take on board?

not sure if you can elaborate a little further but have you had a few PABS in relation to this that prompted you to ask for the third party audit?

im sure you see a trend when you get PABS for the same thing which then pricks the ears up so to speaKs, and is this what has happend in this case.

Would you be able to elaborate a little further as to why this was requested of them, if not I understand.
 

Casinomeister

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Recently, I relaunched the Accredited Section with the standards for Accredited casinos being a bit more detailed. One of them is the following:

RNG and/or software must be audited by a third party.
I gave all of the operators a heads up on all the new standards at the end of May - most of whom came back to me stating no problem. I also realized at this time (going through all my old emails) that when I brought 3Dice on in Jan 2008 it was on the condition that they would have 3rd party auditing in place soon. One and a half years is not "soon" for me.

No PABs, no submitted complaints, nothing that perked my ears up. I've just made the standards more concise - that's all; I need to ensure that the casinos listed here meet these.
 

same_old

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Recently, I relaunched the Accredited Section with the standards for Accredited casinos being a bit more detailed. One of them is the following:



I gave all of the operators a heads up on all the new standards at the end of May - most of whom came back to me stating no problem. I also realized at this time (going through all my old emails) that when I brought 3Dice on in Jan 2008 it was on the condition that they would have 3rd party auditing in place soon. One and a half years is not "soon" for me.

No PABs, no submitted complaints, nothing that perked my ears up. I've just made the standards more concise - that's all; I need to ensure that the casinos listed here meet these.

here here!

Enzo I will pay for the Thrid party audit if you like, pm me-let's talk about it.
 
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silcnlayc

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Originally Posted by Casinomeister
We had an agreement that 3Dice was to have a third party audit done on its software/RNG when they came on board. But since this hasn't been done yet, they've been removed until a third party audit is in place.
I think that was a very good move after being the recipient of 2 glitches in their games.

I requested my account closed today for many reasons and one of them was that I started to feel the games had too many issues and since the casino hasn't allowed an audit, that in itself has waved red flags for me. Too many bad sessions with two too many glitches in my book. When it feels wrong, it is wrong...the gut is always right!

Maybe we will see new updates soon (fixing the games to reflect new payouts)for preparation of this audit if they choose to take the CM up on his offer of reinstatement after that.

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baabaa006

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Actually, I really like playing at 3 Dice (I only play the slots), and have had some very good pays and withdrawals. And the withdrawals are always done within a couple of hours.
Enzo, if your reading this it would be good for 3Dice to respond,as I love 3Dice and I'm sure there is a large number of other Casionmeister members that do too. However if it was not for Casinomeister I would never have found out about 3Dice. So by not being accredited you will be missing out on many new clients, I am sure.
 

catrina m

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Have 3Dice talked about which 3rd party they need to seek to get this done or are they letting it ride?

They are indeed unique and as such which 3rd party might evaluate them?

Will it be an accounting firm?

I am sorry if I sound ignorant of this subject but in fact I am.

I am also most interested in the outcome.
 

jas2587

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Enzo nor 3Dice will get a Third Party Audit
Bryan asked him well over 1 1/2 yrs ago to get it
many players have requested it he has always skirted the issue
cause he doesnt want to have 1 done
wow that might show just how his games really are so he is scared IMO
he wont even send players their own play logs

Cindy:rolleyes:
 

chuchu59

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Enzo nor 3Dice will get a Third Party Audit
Bryan asked him well over 1 1/2 yrs ago to get it
many players have requested it he has always skirted the issue
cause he doesnt want to have 1 done
wow that might show just how his games really are so he is scared IMO
he wont even send players their own play logs

Cindy:rolleyes:
Cindy,

I cant agree with you yet:D. Since this issue is now being widely discussed we should give Enzo the benfit of the doubt and hopefully the 3rd Party Audit will be conducted very very soon. I am sure many of us here want to know the results of the audit especially since Enzo has always been mentioning Variance and an audit will shed some light on this. I understand that at times some players have requested and actually gotten their % payouts since playing at 3 Dice but this was mingled with bonuses with some even tourney wins or no-deposit bonuses. I would hope that we get some stats about the RTP on the slots alone.
 

jas2587

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Cindy,

I cant agree with you yet:D. Since this issue is now being widely discussed we should give Enzo the benfit of the doubt and hopefully the 3rd Party Audit will be conducted very very soon. I am sure many of us here want to know the results of the audit especially since Enzo has always been mentioning Variance and an audit will shed some light on this. I understand that at times some players have requested and actually gotten their % payouts since playing at 3 Dice but this was mingled with bonuses with some even tourney wins or no-deposit bonuses. I would hope that we get some stats about the RTP on the slots alone.
ok I will bite an wait but I still think Enzo has got all he can player wise from here an will not produce it or have it done
Enzos 1 of his favorite words was High Variance all the games was High Variance

so yes I agree :p we will wait an see:)

Cindy:rolleyes:
 

Jasminebed

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Just because the RNG works correctly, this has no bearing on the RTP or whether or not 3Dice will share their slot payback percentages with us.

I do hope they fulfill Bryan's requirement and get re-instated as an accredited casino.
 

binshakindown

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3Dice was quick to give me my stats.

Actually it took less than 24 hours. I didn't see any problems with the way it was broken down. Maybe I am missing something? See below:

"Bonus:

Tourney Prize XXX $
Promo code - XXX $
Promo code -
Loyalty XXX $
Comp Points XXX $
----------------------------
TOTAL : XXXXX $



For reference - all you financial data-deposits, withdrawals , bonuses- can
also be found under your cashier /Banking/History.

I will attach here bellow your game stats, since you joined us on 2008/06/08
until Present:

Game Bets Average Bets Percentage
SquirrelPike 2596 2.55$ 91.22%
Tutankhamon 2501 2.26$ 93.12%
HappyValley 15436 2.92$ 88.25%
FortuneFalls 25228 4.46$ 105.86%
Industria 2537 3.14$ 118.47%
Solitaire_v2 4188 5.14$ 98.87%
Poker_new_
multihand -
Bonus 30 0.25$ 108.00%
SuperSuits 157 0.42$ 30.81%
Poker_new_
multihand -
Jackpot 412 1.14$ 99.74%
RedDog 5637 5.41$ 99.63%
caribbeanstudpoker 2747 16.88$ 97.28%
BlackJack_Classic 297 3.56$ 96.83%
War 94 1.52$ 93.01%
Jackpot 2545 0.75$ 82.75%
DoubleDice 2473 0.50$ 94.88%
MedievalMoolah 124 4.91$ 223.88%
Payola 4951 2.83$ 97.55%
Slotronomicon 94 6.14$ 34.30%
Poker_new
_multihand -
Triple Bonus 58 4.00$ 118.36%
MoolahLight 170 1.73$ 51.25%
Aztec 6446 4.12$ 107.62%
Sicbo 387 18.53$ 93.42%
TexasHoldemBonus 15 22.00$ 42.42%
OldGlory-ROR 945 1.04$ 91.10%
Poker_new -
All American 34 0.30$ 88.24%
ThreeCardPoker 85 0.27$ 95.26% "
 

GGW Laurie

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Actually it took less than 24 hours. I didn't see any problems with the way it was broken down. Maybe I am missing something? See below:

"Bonus:

Tourney Prize XXX $
Promo code - XXX $
Promo code -
Loyalty XXX $
Comp Points XXX $
----------------------------
TOTAL : XXXXX $



For reference - all you financial data-deposits, withdrawals , bonuses- can
also be found under your cashier /Banking/History.

I will attach here bellow your game stats, since you joined us on 2008/06/08
until Present:

Game Bets Average Bets Percentage
SquirrelPike 2596 2.55$ 91.22%
Tutankhamon 2501 2.26$ 93.12%
HappyValley 15436 2.92$ 88.25%
FortuneFalls 25228 4.46$ 105.86%
Industria 2537 3.14$ 118.47%
Solitaire_v2 4188 5.14$ 98.87%
Poker_new_
multihand -
Bonus 30 0.25$ 108.00%
SuperSuits 157 0.42$ 30.81%
Poker_new_
multihand -
Jackpot 412 1.14$ 99.74%
RedDog 5637 5.41$ 99.63%
caribbeanstudpoker 2747 16.88$ 97.28%
BlackJack_Classic 297 3.56$ 96.83%
War 94 1.52$ 93.01%
Jackpot 2545 0.75$ 82.75%
DoubleDice 2473 0.50$ 94.88%
MedievalMoolah 124 4.91$ 223.88%
Payola 4951 2.83$ 97.55%
Slotronomicon 94 6.14$ 34.30%
Poker_new
_multihand -
Triple Bonus 58 4.00$ 118.36%
MoolahLight 170 1.73$ 51.25%
Aztec 6446 4.12$ 107.62%
Sicbo 387 18.53$ 93.42%
TexasHoldemBonus 15 22.00$ 42.42%
OldGlory-ROR 945 1.04$ 91.10%
Poker_new -
All American 34 0.30$ 88.24%
ThreeCardPoker 85 0.27$ 95.26% "
I have gotten the same stats from them also over the past at different times, while i have always said i do have a love/ hate relationship with 3 Dice, i have to agree with the other poster, id like to see Enzo have this audit done, its only fair to those who have been loyal players in the past and those he may be missing out on in the future from here....... Or do we count anymore?..............laurie
 

RobWin

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Don't you peeps think that it is purdy damn strange that Enzo has not even bothered to address this issue here with all of the members that have so loyally supported him and 3Dice since Bryan gave him accreditation here for as long as he did. I actually think its purdy damn RUDE myself for him to not only dis all of the loyal players here but Bryan as well by not making a public statement here in the forum regarding this issue!

If that doesn't make the 3Dice supporters wonder about the games fairness at 3Dice then I don't know what would. Enzo, if you have nothing to hide with your games and programming there then get the damn audit, hell Same_Old has even offered to pay for it for you!
 

RobWin

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Maybe Casinomeister is still in their plans, as this is still on their front page.
Anyone with half a lick of sense is going to show the Casinomeister awards or at the very least a connection to Casinomeister and try to garner and capitalize on the Casinomeister name and influence.
 

just play

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here here!

Enzo I will pay for the Thrid party audit if you like, pm me-let's talk about it.
Why would you do this? I'm confused? I'm sure 3Dice has plenty of money.

Am I thinking of something else...I remember someone having an audit done there, but didn't like to discuss it? What happened with that audit?
 

silcnlayc

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Don't you peeps think that it is purdy damn strange that Enzo has not even bothered to address this issue here with all of the members that have so loyally supported him and 3Dice since Bryan gave him accreditation here for as long as he did. I actually think its purdy damn RUDE myself for him to not only dis all of the loyal players here but Bryan as well by not making a public statement here in the forum regarding this issue!
I do think it is strange because he is very vocal when someone disagrees with his casino but now he is mum on the one thing everyone is thinking...why has there been any audit yet????

.
 
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jas2587

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Why would you do this? I'm confused? I'm sure 3Dice has plenty of money.

Am I thinking of something else...I remember someone having an audit done there, but didn't like to discuss it? What happened with that audit?
Cause 3Dice isnt gonna do it so he is offering an he knows Enzo wont take them up on it cause Enzo doesnt want this done not 1 bit

they must have something to hide otherwise it would have been done along time ago

Cindy:rolleyes:
 

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