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Villa Fortuna? Clever(ish) spam.

Discussion in 'Casino Spam Complaints' started by vinylweatherman, Jun 10, 2008.

    Jun 10, 2008
  1. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Dear Brian, please find attached your official invitation to Europe's #1 new online casino.

    As one of our best customers, I managed to get you an invite to the pre-launch party of Villafortuna.com, the NEW, ALL European Casino! You can be assured of easy banking, great odds and excellent customer service. We will also give you 25 Euro FREE to try it out (no purchase required). All you have to do is download the casino and register as a real player.

    The quick way there is to just click on the link below:
    xxxwww.villafortuna.com

    I really appreciate any feedback you may have regarding this casino and, with permission, will contact you later in the week.

    ALSO PLEASE NOTE that the games are available in Italian, German, Spanish and French but that certain aspects of the website and software are currently in English only.
    Everything will be available in your favourite language by the time the casino officially launches on 1 July 2008.


    Enjoy your FREE BONUS MONEY and best of luck,

    Mario
    Villa Fortuna News.


    This one got me going. Walked right through my ISP's usually oversensitive filters, yet has all the "wrong" words, an affiliate link, and even shows as having an attachment that seems to be "invisible" - I can't access it from "save attachments", yet the paperclip icon clearly shows.

    My genuine first name is also shown, although the subject line gives the game away;)

    "Your pre-launch invitation ##FIRSTNAME##. "

    The sender is shown as:-

    "Villafortuna News [do_not_reply@villafortunanews.com]"

    I have never heard of them, who are they?

    It's the kind of name I feel Fortune Lounge might pick for one of theirs, but they have just shed overcapacity by going down to 8 casinos.

    The link LOOKS "clean", but that "invisible attachment" has got me decided NOT to risk it - something is up with this Email.

    If this is somehow a botched marketing ploy by some real casino with a rep here, they had better fess up, and take some advice on how NOT to invite players "out of the blue" with weird looking Emails that just scream "VIRUS Included" at them!
     
  2. Jun 10, 2008
  3. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    I do nothing productive
    Location:
    Hell on Earth
    Ill tell you whats up with that email.....

    Generic7.scd.... A Trojan Horse Downloader

    If you opened the email, run a full virus scan ASAP.
     
  4. Jun 11, 2008
  5. jolub

    jolub Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Michigan, USA
    I have my emails scanned before they arrive in my inbox but I still don't trust all the crap that I get scammed with. If you don't ask for something, don't open the email offering it to you.
     
  6. Jun 11, 2008
  7. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    I think this must be a rogue affiliate, because this is an imminent Microgaming powered online casino licensed in Malta and registered to Iconic (Malta) Ltd. The management is allegedly very experienced in the business.

    I've drawn the attention of appropriate people to the virus loaded spam.
     
  8. Jun 11, 2008
  9. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    EXECUTIVE
    Location:
    SOMEWHERE IN ASIA
    Are they trying to cashin on Villa's reputation after his 3 goals for Spain?:D:D
     
  10. Jun 11, 2008
  11. vd752

    vd752 Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    math&gambling
    Location:
    www
    it's a new casino from Grand Prive


    according to Grand Prive affiliate manager post at CAP


    Hope this help.
     
    1 person likes this.
  12. Jun 11, 2008
  13. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Mathematician by day, online gambler by night.
    Location:
    UK
    Players need something better than an allegedly very experienced management. HippoJo was announced to have "substantial backers" and "highly experienced and respected Australian online gambling consultant" and we all know what happened.
     
  14. Jun 11, 2008
  15. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    Thanks for that information, vd752 - perhaps you could advise the affiliate manager concerned at CAP about the virus mentioned in Lots0's post - presumably that's the last thing they want happening.
     
  16. Jun 11, 2008
  17. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    You're clearly stating the obvious.
     
  18. Jun 11, 2008
  19. vd752

    vd752 Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    math&gambling
    Location:
    www
    I don't see any proof that there e-mail contains a virus, just a supposition in first post and a guess in second. Sorry if I'm wrong.
     
  20. Jun 11, 2008
  21. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    I do nothing productive
    Location:
    Hell on Earth
    Yes it was a guess on my part.
    However, I think it would be appropriate to at least call it an "Educated Guess".

    Also, I expect VWM will post the results of his virus scan sometime today.
     
  22. Jun 11, 2008
  23. LOOKAWAY

    LOOKAWAY Senior Wember PABnonaccred

    Location:
    England
    I also got a email from this casino i think the main problem with this new casino is the fact there robbing the affiliates from there sign ups thats the word on the web right now.

    I thought at first glance it could be related to grand prize because off "do not reply" bit off the email address it was sent from as you all know grand prize has the same deal.

    Also it looked like an affiliate link to the casino but the from and reply to email addresses were both from villa fortune i have no problems with that as the free 25 euros was for the pre launch off there casino.

    I know that they have got my personal details now looking like grand prive but what can i do.

    But it does look like they are all out on bypassing affiliates at any means which i have no problem with either. :D

    Maybe this is the future for when well established casino groups want to open a new casino as they allready got alot off private infomation from sign ups.
     
  24. Jun 11, 2008
  25. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    All the more confusing:confused:

    There seems to be a difference of opinion as to what's going on, so WHY didn't the Email make this abundantly clear from the outset?

    IF they are so experienced, this experience does not extend to the internet, otherwise they would have made steps to ensure the Email did not look so "dodgy", so as to be mistaken for the avalanche of spam, viruses, and trojans.

    Nothing can happen, as I have my Email registered in the "restricted" zone, which is set as tight as a duck's a*** - drive by downloads fail, activex is forbidden, and I didn't click on the attachment.

    I normally save attachments and scan them first, but this was not possible as although it was shown with the paperclip symbol, the "save attachments" drop down menu was empty, which made me suspect the coding of the link itself (embedded JAVA or such like).

    Unfortunately, this story will not go away, if they didn't want this new casino all over the forums, they should have thought about their launch process a bit better.

    If this is Grand Prive, why me? I am KING level, but rarely see the "regular weekly offers" that are supposedly part of the programme, so why on earth would they want me "abusing" their new casino:confused: - even encouraging it with a free chip.

    As far as I am concerned, I would get big offers for a couple of months, lose 2K to 3K, and then get banned from further offers. I would also want to know how my status at both sites would interact when it came to promotions.
     
  26. Jun 11, 2008
  27. LOOKAWAY

    LOOKAWAY Senior Wember PABnonaccred

    Location:
    England
    Hi vwm i dont see what the problem is unless you are a affiliate.

    They are obviously from a big casino group where they got are private info from.

    The email was signed off by Mario Villa Fortuna News, we all get news promos from casinos that we are signed up at. :confused:

    Plus sent and reply email addresses were both from villa fortuna casino.

    I dont see this as spam because its from a casino that made good off there 25 instant euros.

    Thats the kind off email i like to receive.

    The only issues that are going to go on are there sneaky marketing and excluding affiliates.

    I think i will now reply to that email and ask how they got my personal details if they reply and tell me how and why i will see this matter resolved.

    And watch on as the affiliates sharpen there blades and oil there guns. :eek:
     
  28. Jun 13, 2008
  29. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    How would I know how "reputable" they might be. There is NO information in this regard whatsoever, I don't know who is behind them, and how the heck they got my personal info given that REPUTABLE casinos have been at great pains to explain that they DON'T PASS OUR INFO ON.

    The fact that they make good on a free chip is irrelevant, I got my free chip from Crystal Palace and VIP Lounge (RTG) with no argument - payment was (Crystal Palace) and could have been (the other one) a different matter altogether.

    I have now received another mailer from them, this time without the dodgy looking invisible attachment, and it had a link to the terms of this offer, or rather it didn't, the links all go to a landing page where the only available function is to download the casino, no "about us" "promotions" etc as would normally be expected.

    This is EXACTLY how spammy affiliates work, and I notice that the link contains an "affid", so it is from an affiliate. If it was direct, surely there would be no affiliate tracking.

    If it is from Grand Prive, then it would be a waste of time since I got promo banned a second time after winning the princely sum of 400 from a 200 deposit with no bonus claimed. Maybe they do this if the last transaction is a withdrawal, but it doesn't say this in the terms, all it says is that you cannot have two consecutive bonuses, you must make an unbonused minimum deposit between claiming another bonus.
     
  30. Jun 13, 2008
  31. Nicole50

    Nicole50 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    customers support
    Location:
    Netherland
    Villa fortuna-Grandprive

    The fact that you log in with the email indicate that they are from Grand prive group as Grand prive has offered long times ago to log in with the email adress to all the casinos they have.

    When you open new account, there is no casino number. You email is the one
     
  32. Jun 13, 2008
  33. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom

    Well, this just HAS to be spam then, as I already have a Grand Prive account. If indeed I opened a new account at Villa Fortuna without knowing it was Grand Prive, I would have ended up with the dreaded duplicate account problem there, and be branded a fraud.
    It seems therefore that I already HAVE an account at Villa Fortuna, so why are they not addressing me by my Grand Prive group account number, as they do in all the other promos (when I see them that is:rolleyes:).

    Maybe I WILL, after all, download this one, and see if my current Grand Prive login works (this will prove the link).
    I also know that to claim a free chip, I need a bonus code, so where is it:confused:

    I may even get back on the promo list - it seems taking the 100 no deposit chip from the magazine got me on the list, and withdrawing that 600 knocked me off again. It would give me the chance to test the theory that it is making withdrawals that get you knocked off their promos, and that maybe (unlike Casino Rewards), a modest deposit is all that is needed to get back on the list (which seems to be automated).
     
  34. Jun 13, 2008
  35. Nicole50

    Nicole50 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    customers support
    Location:
    Netherland
    In my view when Grand prive have many casinos, you have the right to have in each casino one account. What will be the difference is to have different password in each casino. They can not charge you with opening duplicate account as they lunched new casino. That's my own view. it is better to send them an email about this issue. I have not played in this group since longtimes ago.Only today I received an email inviting me to open an acount at Villafortuna with 25 free bonus no deposit.
    The 25 free will be credited when opening an account. I have opened an account and went to see the banking page, then I saw the 25 free in my account. I enjoyed but no winning of course.
     
  36. Jun 13, 2008
  37. LOOKAWAY

    LOOKAWAY Senior Wember PABnonaccred

    Location:
    England
    Yeah my 25 was instant to i took euros just incase i got nothing for pounds.

    I also have an account at all grand prive casinos and taken the sign up at each long time back except at there new flash casino.

    I have had a welcome email from this casino since joining up and a another just now to confirm my personal details.

    And they also asked what time off day i could be contacted at to say welcome or gave me a number to call.

    It will probably be more off a sales pitch than a welcome anyway, dont like it when casinos do this, no i do not want phone contact some players like it thou.

    Maybe if you do sign up VWM that will give you the perfect chance to let rip.

    They also do a high roller match deal deposit 2k receive 1k bonus i think its like away to also improve your vip standing at there casino, if there the best in europe just for opening then there gonna need vip players. :rolleyes:

    I see other casinos do that also, jump start you player rating but its just to get 2k off your money, ok thou if you can keep it up or have a good system.
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2008
  38. Jun 15, 2008
  39. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    Maybe a little O/T, but here's another MGS powered casino I hadn't noticed before:

    Red Flush Casino.
     

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