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So the logic is that all of the promo budget should be funneled to 1-2 lucky players instead of across many hundreds/thousands of (active) players as free spins as it was before?

Well, to me it doesn't matter. Constantly placing in the lower third in the battles, it doesn't matter if I woud've got freespins or a ticket :rolleyes:

But I don't know what the logic behind promo budget decisions @ VS is or has been. I most certainly didn't make any suggestions what it should be either. Just making observations here :)
 
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The logic prob is that they cut the value of the freerolls (for example the 90 tickets freeroll is equivalent to a 2500 fs freeroll on 20p game) plus they add liquidity to the jackpot sng battles since people are forced to play through the rounds with their tickets
And they make it less appealing for those players who target wagering the minimum solely to qualify for freerolls and battle weekends in order to make a profit

This is probably the reason yes. The sad thing is for some like me who never try to reach the wagering but constantly make it anyway, I simply feel that they have removed something I enjoyed playing.
The last week I've managed to win 5 free spins twice. Both times they paid nothing :p
 
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These rounders freerolls are depressingly boring, and many of the good and fun slots are now giving rounders ticket, like Vikings, or the ongoing Rocket Fellas battle.

There are a lot of people playing, but only 30, 60 or 90 actually winning, while most of the people walk away empty handed. I'm allready getting bored of it, and i can't imagine I'm the only one getting bored of showing up for nothing time after time.

This post is not because i feel entitled to being rewarded every time, I just feel like it's moving towards a lottery style of rewards, where a few people win big and the rest get nothing at all. The concept of the rounders battles is a good one, it's just too hard to get a ticket, and it's too many rounders freeroll battles. It would be better if it was less rounders battles, but more prizes, so that there was a higher chance of getting a ticket. Maybe every 4th battle instead of every 2nd. Just look at the Halloween Jack battle earlier, 1658 people joined, 1568 (94,57%) people walked away empty handed, for Wolf Cub it was 1598 (96,38%) people walking away empty handed. Compare that to the 5000fs Berryburst battle where only 77,82% of the players walked away with nothing.
 
These rounders freerolls are depressingly boring, and many of the good and fun slots are now giving rounders ticket, like Vikings, or the ongoing Rocket Fellas battle.

There are a lot of people playing, but only 30, 60 or 90 actually winning, while most of the people walk away empty handed. I'm allready getting bored of it, and i can't imagine I'm the only one getting bored of showing up for nothing time after time.

This post is not because i feel entitled to being rewarded every time, I just feel like it's moving towards a lottery style of rewards, where a few people win big and the rest get nothing at all. The concept of the rounders battles is a good one, it's just too hard to get a ticket, and it's too many rounders freeroll battles. It would be better if it was less rounders battles, but more prizes, so that there was a higher chance of getting a ticket. Maybe every 4th battle instead of every 2nd. Just look at the Halloween Jack battle earlier, 1658 people joined, 1568 (94,57%) people walked away empty handed, for Wolf Cub it was 1598 (96,38%) people walking away empty handed. Compare that to the 5000fs Berryburst battle where only 77,82% of the players walked away with nothing.

Spot on.
The rest of today's free rolls are all on 10p slots while a number of the rounders are on the 20p slots. I have not said much about the devaluing of these free rolls in order to give them time but it all adds to my growing concern about where over 90% of my deposits goes too. Videoslots is like volunteering to take part in a masochist's famine for me lately
 
These rounders freerolls are depressingly boring, and many of the good and fun slots are now giving rounders ticket, like Vikings, or the ongoing Rocket Fellas battle.

There are a lot of people playing, but only 30, 60 or 90 actually winning, while most of the people walk away empty handed. I'm allready getting bored of it, and i can't imagine I'm the only one getting bored of showing up for nothing time after time.

This post is not because i feel entitled to being rewarded every time, I just feel like it's moving towards a lottery style of rewards, where a few people win big and the rest get nothing at all. The concept of the rounders battles is a good one, it's just too hard to get a ticket, and it's too many rounders freeroll battles. It would be better if it was less rounders battles, but more prizes, so that there was a higher chance of getting a ticket. Maybe every 4th battle instead of every 2nd. Just look at the Halloween Jack battle earlier, 1658 people joined, 1568 (94,57%) people walked away empty handed, for Wolf Cub it was 1598 (96,38%) people walking away empty handed. Compare that to the 5000fs Berryburst battle where only 77,82% of the players walked away with nothing.

Bit of a silly post really
Who wants to win 5 free spins?
those rounders tickets are actually worth winning
and if you want everybody to walk away with something they could make everybody who joins the freerolls win 1 free spin if they wanted to.
but who really wants that.
 
Bit of a silly post really
Who wants to win 5 free spins?
those rounders tickets are actually worth winning
and if you want everybody to walk away with something they could make everybody who joins the freerolls win 1 free spin if they wanted to.
but who really wants that.
I want to win 5 free spins or why else would I play the battle weekends or battle evenings you do realise that it only takes one spin as they say....
 
Bit of a silly post really
Who wants to win 5 free spins?
those rounders tickets are actually worth winning
and if you want everybody to walk away with something they could make everybody who joins the freerolls win 1 free spin if they wanted to.
but who really wants that.

The 5th round of rounders battles are worth winning, but considering the tiny chance you have of actually doing that, 5 spins are worth more than a ticket in almost every case. If rounders tickets are so good, then just do the 5.5 euro buy in, will cost you no more than qualifying for the battles and at least you are guaranteed to get in round 1 more often than you are likely to playing freerolls to get them.
People want to win something, not pay to qualify for the battles, then walk away with nothing.
 
I do think Sunday's battles need to be reviewed, Yeti 10p, Queen's Day Tilt 10p Turn Your Fortune 20p, Fu Er Crap 10p, Dead or Alive 9p, Book Of Dead 10p, Only Turn Your Fortune has any value in it the rest pay bugger all even with real money (Dead or Alive if you very lucky might).
VS are not stupid they put those games on for a reason.
very low bet games.
it won't change
 
The 5th round of rounders battles are worth winning, but considering the tiny chance you have of actually doing that, 5 spins are worth more than a ticket in almost every case. If rounders tickets are so good, then just do the 5.5 euro buy in, will cost you no more than qualifying for the battles and at least you are guaranteed to get in round 1 more often than you are likely to playing freerolls to get them.
People want to win something, not pay to qualify for the battles, then walk away with nothing.

The thing is that a lot of people complaining by saying "5 FS is useless."
A few on CM and on every free battle I can see "5 FS is useless." comment in a chat room.
 
so people want to win 5 free spins on a 10 cent game instead of winning a 5.5 euro ticket.
ehm.. ok
Errr yes because there is always that chance to win something then play elsewhere as below:

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so people want to win 5 free spins on a 10 cent game instead of winning a 5.5 euro ticket.
ehm.. ok

A 5.5 euro ticket that you have less than a 1% chance of winning anything from, as opposed to 5-100 spins that you have a much higher chance of winning from, and you have a much higher chance of actually winning in the first place. (90 max winners in a rounders battle as opposed to over 400 spins prizes in a free spins battle).
 
Errr yes because there is always that chance to win something then play elsewhere as below:

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ya, never poo-poo a few free spins
i posted last week i made like 3 bucks off the SnGs - and hit a good sized hit when switching to another game for a handful of 50 cent spins - gave me an evening of free play
 
so people want to win 5 free spins on a 10 cent game instead of winning a 5.5 euro ticket.
ehm.. ok
Pure math. You will win many many 5 free spins sets before you win 1 rounders ticket.
And chances to get even round two is 20% so in theory you need 5 rounders ticket before you certainly survive to round two. In theory. How many free spins sets you can win before you win 5 rounders tickets? I guess a lot of free spins.
 
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The thing is that a lot of people complaining by saying "5 FS is useless."
A few on CM and on every free battle I can see "5 FS is useless." comment in a chat room.

I agree in principle, however, changing them to winning nothing is not an improvement.
It's not fair to compare them to 5 spins either. Looking at the battle on now, finishing in the first 60 (as would be the rounders battle around this time) would get you 15 spins (or higher). Finishing 61st in a spins battle would get you 15 free spins. Finishing 61st in a rounders one gets you nothing. I would be a bit pissed if I came first in a 30p game and got 1x rounders ticket instead of £30 in spins.
 
I think the rounders battles could be better if reworked a little (as per some suggestions previously).. but as they are , as many have said they hold no real interest for me due to it being such a tiny chance of
getting anything from them. But i generally like the idea.

I did/do prefer the free spins as they used to be though. Ok most of the time you maybe wouldnt get anything from them.. 5.. 10.. etc.. but at least it kept you here and interested - with a bit of a chance to make
something or just a little something to play with extra. I will add though, over the last year, i made £120 from 10fs on asgardian stones, £40 from 5fs on Leg of Egypt, £60 from a few spins on Doa and alot of
'a few quid' quite a few times which has given extra play time. Rounders while an interesting idea and changes may improve it, just offers little to come away thinking hmm another battle and nothing.

Really like the Tuesday big battle though, thats a good one. :)
 
Take next weekends battle Reactoonz's battles always have people in the 200000/300000 score and it takes one spin from any of the 4/5/or 6 rewards to achieve that which is why I will be playing all next weekend, of course I would like to reach round 5 of roudners but not at the expense of playing the battles, the battles are far more interesting and worthwhile to me as I know from playing battle weekends what can be achieved from taking them seriously.
 
add on top of that, it's not like you have to just play the 5 - bank them and spunk 60fs and you might get a free evening and a WD
or 140 like I usually get after I had played a few battle weekends and learned to leave the rewards alone the results became very profitable you just need to leave them alone.
 
or 140 like I usually get after I had played a few battle weekends and learned to leave the rewards alone the results became very profitable you just need to leave them alone.
i usually quit at 25 rewards - but averaging them out at 5 apc that's 125fs
sure, its only a tennerish - but a bonus round or 2 is free playtime :)
 
Bit of a silly post really
Who wants to win 5 free spins?
those rounders tickets are actually worth winning
and if you want everybody to walk away with something they could make everybody who joins the freerolls win 1 free spin if they wanted to.
but who really wants that.

Yeah, the rounder ticket can be worth something, but the chance to get one is really small with this many people playing. I had 1 so far, got knocked out in round 1. How many tickets did you win? and how did it go? I usualy play 8-9 battles a day, and still had only 1 ticket.

5fs can be good, i have had wins on them in the past. And i don't think it's silly to win something from time to time, instead of winning 1 battle ticket every 14 days
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I agree in principle, however, changing them to winning nothing is not an improvement.
It's not fair to compare them to 5 spins either. Looking at the battle on now, finishing in the first 60 (as would be the rounders battle around this time) would get you 15 spins (or higher). Finishing 61st in a spins battle would get you 15 free spins. Finishing 61st in a rounders one gets you nothing. I would be a bit pissed if I came first in a 30p game and got 1x rounders ticket instead of £30 in spins.

I'm not saying a rounder ticket is better than FS, I myself prefer FS over a ticket, especially I didn't win any ticket so far.
What I'm saying is there are people who want different thing from what others want and since there are so many complaints about "useless 5 FS", VS decided to try something new to make those people happy.

I don't see it as an improvement, but see it as a change for the people who want different thing from 5 FS.
Half of free battles are for free spins, and half of free battle are for tickets which I think is fair, though I think VS needs to increase number of ticket to be given.

PS : There is only one battle with 30p spins which is legacy game from play and go, and that one is for free spins...if that battle is going to change to ticket battle, I can expect a lot of rants from may players include me, so I really don't think VS will change it.
 
PS : There is only one battle with 30p spins which is legacy game from play and go, and that one is for free spins...if that battle is going to change to ticket battle, I can expect a lot of rants from may players include me, so I really don't think VS will change it.

I guess only reason why it's still freespins-battle is time. As we see it's regular order what battle is rounders battle and what is freespins-battle. So it's pure luck that start time of legacy is in spot where is freespins-battle every day.
 
You guys are not thinking straight
5 FREE SPINS 50 cents .
ok you might get the odd huge win like you posted , you posted a screen of 71 euro win from the 5 spins or whatever it was.

well.
you got lucky.


AND people get lucky in the rounders ticket rounds and they get to the end and how much do they win ??
like 1000 euro ?

ok less likely than getting a big win from the 5 spins because u are more likely to get more free spins as there are more on offer

but what are we playing slots for?
to win 50 cents ?

or to win big amounts?
 
I'm not saying a rounder ticket is better than FS, I myself prefer FS over a ticket, especially I didn't win any ticket so far.
What I'm saying is there are people who want different thing from what others want and since there are so many complaints about "useless 5 FS", VS decided to try something new to make those people happy.

I don't see it as an improvement, but see it as a change for the people who want different thing from 5 FS.
Half of free battles are for free spins, and half of free battle are for tickets which I think is fair, though I think VS needs to increase number of ticket to be given.

PS : There is only one battle with 30p spins which is legacy game from play and go, and that one is for free spins...if that battle is going to change to ticket battle, I can expect a lot of rants from may players include me, so I really don't think VS will change it.

that is a 1500 spin freeroll you are talking about at 30 cents.

that is the lowest spin freeroll on vs.

technically it's also one of the worst even though it is paying at 30 cents.
 
Yeah, the rounder ticket can be worth something, but the chance to get one is really small with this many people playing. I had 1 so far, got knocked out in round 1. How many tickets did you win? and how did it go? I usualy play 8-9 battles a day, and still had only 1 ticket.

5fs can be good, i have had wins on them in the past. And i don't think it's silly to win something from time to time, instead of winning 1 battle ticket every 14 days
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you are not getting wins like this every few days. this is a rare occasion.

the same rare occasion would be when you get to round 5 on a jackpot chase and you win 1k euros.
 
you are not getting wins like this every few days. this is a rare occasion.

the same rare occasion would be when you get to round 5 on a jackpot chase and you win 1k euros.
You do realise it takes 100's and 100's of those level one tickets/players to fill one level 5 battle.
It takes 25 level one tickets/players just to fill one level two battle, then you need 5 of those to fill one level three battle.... etc

If VS are only giving away 60-90 tickets at a time, in the regular battles. They've covered a day's worth of what would have been 10's of thousands of free spins, with €2750 worth of prizes, going to 3 players
 
you are not getting wins like this every few days. this is a rare occasion.

the same rare occasion would be when you get to round 5 on a jackpot chase and you win 1k euros.

These rounders battles are just as boring as playing the eurojackpot, chance of winning is so small you don't even bother trying. The win from the last round is gated behind so many layers of rng that you are going to end up disappointed most of the time, even if you don't expect a win.

Going by your logic they could add a round 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 as well, for that massive payout.
 
Not going to keep arguing but you need a lot of luck to get a big win from any freeroll at the end of the day.

The only thing I really like are the SNG weekends the rest is just blah.
 
I avoided all this stress, worry, the headaches, the whinging etc etc by simply stop playing the free rolls altogether.

Worked wonders. Now I just gamble my own funds and hope for those lucky days, knowing when they come, I'll be paid pronto, simples :)
 
Why thought you didn't like 4, 5 or 6 spins on a low cent game so why do you like them?
because in the same time i can play 1 freeroll
i can play 24 sng's? or more

say 6 x 30 player sng every hour
6x 10 player sng every hour

the weekend on the 30th-31st this month is on reactoonz 20 cent bet.
 
because in the same time i can play 1 freeroll
i can play 24 sng's? or more

say 6 x 30 player sng every hour
6x 10 player sng every hour

the weekend on the 30th-31st this month is on reactoonz 20 cent bet.
Don't forget, that with you being from the UK, any rewards you get from those battles, will be redeemed on the 94.51% RTP version of Reactoonz. Rather than the 96.51% version. So less value than you might think
 
5-10 spins here and there even if they are dead spins feels much better than getting nothing day after day.

They make all these changes to stop people doing the bare minimum, where as in fact it likely making more people just do the bare minimum.

The RTP nerf for example, I still play vs (much less than I used to) only to stay active. but I wont touch any 94% play and go
I simply stick to thunderkick or btg so, overall: depositing less and playing less, and as my reduced play is not on the reduced rtp games, well done you're making less from me thanks to the 'changes'.
 
There is no doubt that the rounders thing was devised for one purpose only, to save money.
If a rounders freeroll is on a game with 20p stake and awards 90 tickets,its a big saving on the
say 4500 freespins awarded at 20p.Also the remaining freespin freerolls are mainly 10p stake.
I really think that whoever is making these changes has no idea of what attracts or puts off players.
If they want new ideas, just look at what yggdrasil did on the xmas tournaments, they were briiliant
and eveyone had the same chance of winning.It did mean playing games with your own money but
thats what we do anyway.
 
Don't forget, that with you being from the UK, any rewards you get from those battles, will be redeemed on the 94.51% RTP version of Reactoonz. Rather than the 96.51% version. So less value than you might think
not really fussed about that.

does put me off playing reactoonz for real money though
 
90 battle tickets.
5.5 euro each
on the 4.15pm freeroll today on 9 cent game dead or alive

total prize 495 euros.
But the battle tickets aren't actually worth €5.50. You can't cash them in for €5.50.
It's just the price of buying into a level one battle, should you wish to play without a ticket.

And since most if the entries are given away as prizes from the other battles.
Their value is €0 and a tiny tiny chance of winning one of three prizes
 
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