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I have to say I am extremely disappointed in the proposed sit n go weekend. Since my account is in CAD, I need to deposit over $30 and wager over $750. But any spins I do win will be in CAD. There are times when $200 in deposits has not met that amount of wagering.

This is part of the Christmas promo, I have been playing all year. Had I been aware further in advance, I would have held onto my last 3 deposits, or perhaps made a couple of small cash outs so I could redeposit.

I spend Christmas Day alone, I usually save some of my budget for gambling that day. I am unsure if I will try to participate.

I know I won’t be playing today as planned.
 
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I have to say I am extremely disappointed in the proposed sit n go weekend. Since my account is in CAD, I need to deposit over $30 and wager over $750. But any spins I do win will be in CAD. There are times when $200 in deposits has not met that amount of wagering.

This is part of the Christmas promo, I have been playing all year. Had I been aware further in advance, I would have held onto my last 3 deposits, or perhaps made a couple of small cash outs so I could redeposit.

I spend Christmas Day alone, I usually save some of my budget for gambling that day. I am unsure if I will try to participate.

I know I won’t be playing today as planned.

True, I think that is what disappoint everyone the most. Not the changes, but the fact that we didn't find out until it was too late to prepare for it.
I would have enjoyed spending all next weekend at VS because after that then hell will break lose for me as for many others.

I hope they will change their minds about this. VS did you know it's Christmas time? :)
 
Is being the casino of the year on Casinomeister a poison challis maybe the casinos get too big headed.

We can see how 32red have gone, maybe casinos should hope they don't become Casino of the Year it gives them more to aim for if they are 2nd or 3rd.

I said in another thread Videoslots need to think if they want to stay as number one and recent events show they perhaps need to lose this honour to get back on track before they start to fall out of favour very quickly.
 
Look it's just a sign of the times.

Before long we'll be pining for the deposit 20 and wager 500 entry. I hear next year's requirement is deposit 500 and sacrifice your first-born son :eek2:
 
True, I think that is what disappoint everyone the most. Not the changes, but the fact that we didn't find out until it was too late to prepare for it.
I would have enjoyed spending all next weekend at VS because after that then hell will break lose for me as for many others.

I hope they will change their minds about this. VS did you know it's Christmas time? :)

I don't doubt they knew exactly what they were doing, restricting the number of people that will be able to play, therefore managing their losses from the weekend - that said, VS is a business first and foremost and they have to protect their brand and profits :)
 
I don't doubt they knew exactly what they were doing, restricting the number of people that will be able to play, therefore managing their losses from the weekend - that said, VS is a business first and foremost and they have to protect their brand and profits :)
Whoa whoa whoa!

When entry reqs were a piece of string you were moaning from the rooftops, now they've gone up you're in agreement?? :eek::p
 
I don't doubt they knew exactly what they were doing, restricting the number of people that will be able to play, therefore managing their losses from the weekend - that said, VS is a business first and foremost and they have to protect their brand and profits :)

Absolutely! But it's humans who runs it and it never hurts to say please :)
 
And to think folks moaned at me when I was talking about wagering for last months cancelled sng it was only £200 needed to wager back in the day. Now its £500 to wager. But hey ho. Good luck on wagering everyone.
 
And to think folks moaned at me when I was talking about wagering for last months cancelled sng it was only £200 needed to wager back in the day. Now its £500 to wager. But hey ho. Good luck on wagering everyone.

I think people moaned at you mate cause you complained about the cancelled sng and all the wagering you'd done , but just a few posts before you didnt know what the sng's were and were asking when the next one was, but it had been cancelled a week before etc. :D (i think to some it looked like you were looking for compensation/freebies for something that had been cancelled, though you didnt know what it was.). But anyway, not to divert from the subject, I agree with good luck with wagering for it to anyone. :thumbsup:
 
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I think people moaned at you mate cause you complained about the cancelled sng and all the wagering you'd done , but just a few posts before you didnt know what the sng's were and were asking when the next one was, but it had been cancelled a week before etc. :D (i think to some it looked like you were looking for compensation/freebies for something that had been cancelled, though you didnt know what it was.). But anyway, not to divert from the subject, I agree with good luck with wagering for it to anyone. :thumbsup:
Yeah the post about free spins was meant to be taken as a joke.
 
I think people moaned at you mate cause you complained about the cancelled sng and all the wagering you'd done , but just a few posts before you didnt know what the sng's were and were asking when the next one was, but it had been cancelled a week before etc. :D (i think to some it looked like you were looking for compensation/freebies for something that had been cancelled, though you didnt know what it was.). But anyway, not to divert from the subject, I agree with good luck with wagering for it to anyone. :thumbsup:
And I did learn about the sng,s when I was told, but they were still cancelled anyway lol. What I moaned about was that I did manage the wagering and more so I am still able to take part in the normal freerolls ATM anyway. But I bet if videoslots took my joke about free spins for real and we all got them it would have been a diff story.
 
And I did learn about the sng,s when I was told, but they were still cancelled anyway lol. What I moaned about was that I did manage the wagering and more so I am still able to take part in the normal freerolls ATM anyway. But I bet if videoslots took my joke about free spins for real and we all got them it would have been a diff story.

Stop digging.
 
Cut backs are fine, running a successful business is fine, reducing out goings is fine.

However latest changes including rewards, free rolls, battle weekends removal / reduction / increased qualification criteria have gone from one extreme to another and not in a good way.

Surely this much hacking didn't need to take place, there is a middle ground where the business can maintain popular and profitable AND players can be kept happy, sadly on this occasion it seems VS failed to find it :(
 
It isnt a wekness to change the terms to reflect the feedback of members - perhaps this will be one of those occasions VS takes member responses to heart
 
Look it's just a sign of the times.

Before long we'll be pining for the deposit 20 and wager 500 entry. I hear next year's requirement is deposit 500 and sacrifice your first-born son :eek2:
Omg! thank same "g" im going for gambling brake after new year for atleast 1-2 years otherwise i would have only like 2 months to get in to dating game and copulate to arrange that first one :eek:
 
Good morning my fellow CM'ers! :)

I think you are all forgetting that in the past 6 - 12 months most casinos have gone the same way as VS and toned down their promotions significantly, even those considered as the best:

- Guts: 25x D+B WR on a 50% deposit bonus
- 32RED: Free Spin winnings capped at $200 (Christmas promo at $10, understandably)
- Bonus to cash conversion 2x or 4x bonus amount
- Winnings from bonus play limited, some as low as 10x bonus amount
- Most have now minimum 50x WR for FS and Bonuses, some even higher
- Neteller, Skrill, Ecopayz not usable to claim a bonus

The best is to look at the current Christmas calendars and promotions. There hasn't been a single really good promo this year, not a single one, AFAIK. My radar eyes might have missed one though. :D

What I am trying to say is that other casinos have put the hammer down much earlier than VS and that on the quiet. VS instead is probably the most talked about casino, so any change is getting amplified.

My gut feeling is that they are cutting the overall "benefits and rewards" by a flat 25% on average.
 
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I fully agree Harry - but I also think that VS' Christmas promo is still quite generous!

It is clearly the most straightforward and generous one for us at CM. 100FS wager-free for a small deposit is good value for money. Remember though, last year the FS were for $0.50, this year for $0.10. I'm still OK with it! :)

The general promo however, is rather average. 10 or 20 spins, extra race points - OK, but nothing special IMO.

The best with VS is that they always keep it wager-free, to me that is a major point.
 
So Videoslots have gave us an exclusive weekly promo that starts each Monday for 4 weeks-deposit £20 which gives us 100 free spins that are wager free.
Each Monday we get cash back based on our contributions over the previous week.Then their are the regular free roll battle winnings. Added to that they have their daily Calendar promotion which may possibly include wager free spins on completing 100/200 spins of which those spins will also contribute to the wagering needed to qualify for the free roll weekend.
I think we are getting a very fair deal considering the Weekend free rolls can easily give you back what you have spent and more
Videoslots is still my slotting friend with benefits :p
 
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Good morning my fellow CM'ers! :)

I think you are all forgetting that in the past 6 - 12 months most casinos have gone the same way as VS and toned down their promotions significantly, even those considered as the best:
The best is to look at the current Christmas calendars and promotions. There hasn't been a single really good promo this year, not a single one, AFAIK. My radar eyes might have missed one though. :D

What I am trying to say is that other casinos have put the hammer down much earlier than VS and that on the quiet. VS instead is probably the most talked about casino, so any change is getting amplified.

My gut feeling is that they are cutting the overall "benefits and rewards" by a flat 25% on average.

I totally agree.
I mean I check the other casino's promo and nowhere I can find better deals then at VS as far as I've seen around. ( I also like Mr Green's Rheel Thrill and play a lot every 15 min battles- have mostly Netend games ).

but I mean check this offer ↓ to compare it with VS new 20€ + 500€ W and where for that you can get even 250 rewards aprox if you are a spinner ;) so with 500-600 spins x 0,15p-spin or whatever...not good at math
so you decide where to spend your money.

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I totally agree.
I mean I check the other casino's promo and nowhere I can find better deals then at VS as far as I've seen around. ( I also like Mr Green's Rheel Thrill and play a lot every 15 min battles- have mostly Netend games ).

but I mean check this offer ↓ to compare it with VS new 20€ + 500€ W and where for that you can get even 250 rewards aprox if you are a spinner ;) so with 500-600 spins x 0,15p-spin or whatever...not good at math
so you decide where to spend your money.

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Haha great I will not take part thx
 
Good morning my fellow CM'ers! :)

I think you are all forgetting that in the past 6 - 12 months most casinos have gone the same way as VS and toned down their promotions significantly, even those considered as the best:

- Guts: 25x D+B WR on a 50% deposit bonus
- 32RED: Free Spin winnings capped at $200 (Christmas promo at $10, understandably)
- Bonus to cash conversion 2x or 4x bonus amount
- Winnings from bonus play limited, some as low as 10x bonus amount
- Most have now minimum 50x WR for FS and Bonuses, some even higher
- Neteller, Skrill, Ecopayz not usable to claim a bonus

The best is to look at the current Christmas calendars and promotions. There hasn't been a single really good promo this year, not a single one, AFAIK. My radar eyes might have missed one though. :D

What I am trying to say is that other casinos have put the hammer down much earlier than VS and that on the quiet. VS instead is probably the most talked about casino, so any change is getting amplified.

My gut feeling is that they are cutting the overall "benefits and rewards" by a flat 25% on average.

Agree that casino promos are been cut every where, but it felt like Videoslot did push the panic button. Last month there where no sng weekend this month you have 5 days to deposit and wager the 500€ to take part in the sng weekend. + the cut alot in achivment rewards and daily Fs battles.
If this was long time plan, then i would presume that they whoud have sent a e-mail or give the info before, to all players that will happen and becouse of(taxes, big fine Vs did have to pay...)
Vs dont have any oblications to give this info in andvance but before with dan the man in charge there was more tranparency. VS is still a great site but i get the same feel when pokerstars whent from best site to play on to more rake is better (for the players) :thumbsup:
 
Agree that casino promos are been cut every where, but it felt like Videoslot did push the panic button. Last month there where no sng weekend this month you have 5 days to deposit and wager the 500€ to take part in the sng weekend. + the cut alot in achivment rewards and daily Fs battles.
If this was long time plan, then i would presume that they whoud have sent a e-mail or give the info before, to all players that will happen and becouse of(taxes, big fine Vs did have to pay...)
Vs dont have any oblications to give this info in andvance but before with dan the man in charge there was more tranparency. VS is still a great site but i get the same feel when pokerstars whent from best site to play on to more rake is better (for the players) :thumbsup:

To be honest, I have been asking myself a few times how VS could afford the level of generousity?

In the last 3 years, the rewards, goodies and extras knew only one way, and that was up. Weekly Race Pool raised from $10,000 to $90,000, SnG Freerolls from 1 game to multiple games, plus happy hours, extra battles with 5K spins pools, free battles from 500FS and 200 players to 1,500, 3,000 and 4,500FS with 1,500 and 2,250 players etc, etc. I think we can safely say, they have given back to players whatever was possible and kept increasing it time and again.

You see, the thumb rule for a casino to run profitable was for years 25% - 30% max for the deposit/bonus ratio. Having all extras in cash like VS reduces that to roughly 5 - 10%, depending how efficient you run the casino. This was like 3 years ago, but since then regulation, taxes etc has increased the cost significantly, so those ratios might be much lower today.

However, running a casino with cash rewards only is not that flexible. With bonuses you can increase WR, change game weighting, reduce max bet size etc. Players still get a similar level on bonuses but they have to work harder to convert them to cash. There casinos introduced max. win amounts to limit their risk.

Having all cash rewards, means you have to take something directly off the rewards, there is no other way. So, any reduction/change is immediately visible.

Now, getting 10% tax or whatever the number is and other stuff slapped onto your overheads is putting a lot of pressure on your profitability and that being the only way to stay in business, you have to cut the goodies/giveaways.

VS started by changing gradually the game rewards, e.g. $10 battle ticket instead of 100FS for 10,000 wins on Bonanza. They tried to be creative by still giving something substantial but limiting their cost. What happened now, is they know now exactly how much extra cost will be heading their way next year and they have no other way then cutting directly on the rewards because they are virtually a no-bonus casino, hence, little room to achieve a reduction by making bonus terms more stringent.

However, IMO, they still offer by far the best overall package for regulars. No other casino will give you $2.50 every Monday if you complete 100 spins at $0.20 (that is about the level to get the lowest in prize money in the weekly race). I have no plans whatsoever to look for any other gaming hangout, nor will I start depositing less at VS just because I get 10 - 20% less in rewards.
 
However, IMO, they still offer by far the best overall package for regulars. No other casino will give you $2.50 every Monday if you complete 100 spins at $0.20 (that is about the level to get the lowest in prize money in the weekly race). I have no plans whatsoever to look for any other gaming hangout, nor will I start depositing less at VS just because I get 10 - 20% less in rewards.

Agreed in full mate, neither will I, main reason on my luckier days, no sleepless nights wondering if I will get paid, etc etc etc

Think the main gripe for me (and many others) is the "shock to the system" factor. We have gotten so used and comfortable of what to expect and getting decent rewards that when cut backs come along, they 'hurt' a lot more as we'd got to the stage where they were taken for granted.

The Race however doesn't really come into it for me, I'd err that the larger percentage of this money is below the minimum withdrawal threshold and most players will bust out any way, an educated guess would be that there is a very low risk element with this to the casino which is why they awarded many more smaller prizes than originally less actual prizes but larger amounts.

That being said, there are still WAY many more positives than negatives with VS and give or take the odd deposit here and there they pretty much see ALL of my monthly gaming kitty and will continue to do so.

I have stopped depositing at pretty much all of my past loved casinos, yes even 32 Red as when it comes down to "Where shall I deposit tonight" I no longer have to weigh up the options as there simply aren't any anymore :( Least with VS, even if I bust out fast, I get a few pence CB and a Race top up as well as a few more spins towards potential future trophies.
 
Agreed in full mate, neither will I, main reason on my luckier days, no sleepless nights wondering if I will get paid, etc etc etc

Think the main gripe for me (and many others) is the "shock to the system" factor. We have gotten so used and comfortable of what to expect and getting decent rewards that when cut backs come along, they 'hurt' a lot more as we'd got to the stage where they were taken for granted.

The Race however doesn't really come into it for me, I'd err that the larger percentage of this money is below the minimum withdrawal threshold and most players will bust out any way, an educated guess would be that there is a very low risk element with this to the casino which is why they awarded many more smaller prizes than originally less actual prizes but larger amounts.

That being said, there are still WAY many more positives than negatives with VS and give or take the odd deposit here and there they pretty much see ALL of my monthly gaming kitty and will continue to do so.

I have stopped depositing at pretty much all of my past loved casinos, yes even 32 Red as when it comes down to "Where shall I deposit tonight" I no longer have to weigh up the options as there simply aren't any anymore :( Least with VS, even if I bust out fast, I get a few pence CB and a Race top up as well as a few more spins towards potential future trophies.

We all know the saying mate:

"All good things will eventually come to an end." :D
 
Yes. It was just current position-list ;)

Won't be easy though to get to the first spot as the coming games are lower in variance. You will need two times a full screen of the white monster on Yeti to get even close to first spot. Merry Xmas and Holiday Season have even lower volatility.

But we will try and give it the best shot. :D :D
 
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Next weekend's battle and the 100 spin promo is the game Merry Xmas this game has an option to choose 1-14 lines is this unfair that people can choose the number of lines and will it mean the battles go the full 10 mins if people play 1 line?
 
Won't be easy though to ge to first spot as the coming games are lower in variance. You will need two times a full screen of white monsters on Yeti to get even close to first spot. Merry Xmas and Holiday Season have even lower volatility.

Merry xmas has potential to hit something big. But two other games: no changes to hit nr. 1 place. Okay Holiday season pays 1000x with full screen of wilds but never seen any screenhot of it so maybe impossible.
 
Next weekend's battle and the 100 spin promo is the game Merry Xmas this game has an option to choose 1-14 lines is this unfair that people can choose the number of lines and will it mean the battles go the full 10 mins if people play 1 line?

No because regardless of how many lines you choose you still only get same amount of spins. If you are playing lower lines you need to increase coin size so still same bet.
 
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