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I thought being a fellow PE subscriber you'd get the joke. Like I got yours about UK pensioners being 'racist'.
P.S.
In fact, let me make myself clear here as you have deliberately (as your moniker suggests you will) taken exaggerated umbrage over the comparison.
As you well know, I refer to his (Lord Haw-Haw's) constant propaganda campaign against the nation and society he once lived in. I'm not suggesting you are a Nazi or should be hung for treason as you damn well know, but your righteous indignation, even if unjustified in the context of my comment's meaning, is noted.
In fact, I have been a little unfair in my comparison as he was actually paid to try and undermine the confidence and mood of the UK, whereas you like to provide that service gratis.
Now it gets a little tiresome when someone who left the UK and benefits from a tax haven populated in part by not a few rich and wealthy, doesn't vote in UK elections, didn't vote in the Brexit referendum and pays 10% income tax as opposed to the 20% lowest rate for us, contantly lectures us all about where we went wrong. This usually takes the form of material and Tweets from other like-minded people. Of course you are entitled to your opinions as we all are but it comes across as constant sniping and not a little hypocritical - like being told by the multi-millionaires in Blair's cabinet what's good for us all.
That aside, you insulted millions of pensioners here, many of whom have served this country well in various careers, by insinuating they were all 'racists' which most of us just treated as a lazy and false stereotype.
Yes, we are in the shit right now for a variety of reasons and we need to have some good ideas quite quickly. Many people are nervous, me included. Yet you just pick and pick at old scabs and constantly tell us, usually with the benefit of hindsight, where you and your social media acolytes think we went wrong. Perhaps looking ahead rather than at a past we cannot change may be more constructive.
I didn't insult millions of pensioners, since I was referring specifically to the paid-up Tory party members who will be voting in the leadership election - at the last count there were about 160,000 of them, the majority of whom are indeed old, wealthy, white, Southern and yes, in many cases, a bit racist. (Are you really going to argue that point? You only need to look at the utter bilge Truss and Sunak are coming out with at the hustings to get a feel for who it is they're trying to appeal to. The only reason we ever got the Brexit referendum in the first place was because Cameron wanted to see off the threat of Farage's UKIP. Spoiler alert, UKIP is a bit racist.)
To be clear, I'm not saying all Tory party members are racist, but to deny that the Brexit campaign had racist overtones is to deny objective reality, we all remember Farage standing next to his 'BREAKING POINT' posters I'm sure, whilst also telling massive lies about Turkey being on the verge of joining the EU and all the Muslims who'd come to the UK as a result? That seam of racism has run through the Tories ever since and is on display in the current leadership contest, and it's there because of who Truss and Sunak know it appeals to.
I don't fire 'constant vitriol' at the UK, I fire constant vitriol at the Tory party in its current incarnation, starting with Cameron and his fucking stupid referendum and just about everything that's come since, culminating in the worst Prime Minister the UK has ever had in Boris Johnson, and now handing over the reins to certified headcase Liz Truss, whose economic plans are so batshit insane that you've got folks like Ken Clarke ringing alarm bells so loud they can hear them in Australia.
And for the record I didn't 'flee' to the IOM, please don't presume to know how I ended up here. Me and Mrs Chopley were living together in Manchester (where I was happy) but she was getting more and more homesick and wanted to be back here with her mum and dad, especially after her gran died, therefore leaving her mum and dad as her only surviving close family. I came over here for her, and for several years was terribly homesick, missing my family and friends to a massive extent. I remember when my dad used to come to visit in the late 90s, I just wanted to get in his car when he left and go back to Manchester with him. Over time it got better though, and now, 26 years after I first moved here the IOM really does feel like my true home, but it took me years to get to that point.
Anyway, to get back to the insulting pensioners thing, remember, this is who Cameron was trying to see off when he pledged an EU referendum - direct timestamped link to racism.
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