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The thing is though, who gets to decide what 'normal' and 'common sense' are, or indeed what 'normal people' are? One person's 'negative consequences' might be positive for someone else, 'traditional society' isn't a fixed entity that was defined at a single point in time and can never change.
There was a time it was normal for parents to physically assault their children as a form of punishment, it used to be normal for women not to have the vote, and I'm sure there were loads of people who thought that the legalisation of homosexuality was a 'negative consequence', brought on by the 'woke liberals' of the day no doubt.
Why do a bunch of straight, white, middle-aged men get to define what normality is for everyone else? For young people the whole trans debate is largely a non-issue, they're far more accepting of trans people and the notion that gender identity can change. Getting caught up on the whole CAN A WOMAN HAVE A PENIS thing misses the point by a country mile.
What is 'traditional society' anyway? Pick a year when this so called traditional society existed. 1955? 1968? 1947? 1972? It's a nonsense, it doesn't exist, society changes over time, normality changes over time, things that were normal 50 or 100 years ago we now rightly won't accept and/or have made illegal. 'Home correction' used to be a thing, whereby a husband could keep his wife 'well behaved' with physical violence, now we call it spousal abuse and you can get arrested for it. Or is that a bit of 'normality' and 'traditional society' that we can all agree should remain in the past?
The confected moral panic about trans people (already one of the most marginalised groups in society) is abhorrently close to what gay people had to suffer in decades past, I wonder if all the folks getting their knickers in a twist about trans people now (BUT WHICH TOILETS WILL THEY USE ZOMG?) would have been up in arms about THE GAYS in years gone by.....
There was a time it was normal for parents to physically assault their children as a form of punishment, it used to be normal for women not to have the vote, and I'm sure there were loads of people who thought that the legalisation of homosexuality was a 'negative consequence', brought on by the 'woke liberals' of the day no doubt.
Why do a bunch of straight, white, middle-aged men get to define what normality is for everyone else? For young people the whole trans debate is largely a non-issue, they're far more accepting of trans people and the notion that gender identity can change. Getting caught up on the whole CAN A WOMAN HAVE A PENIS thing misses the point by a country mile.
What is 'traditional society' anyway? Pick a year when this so called traditional society existed. 1955? 1968? 1947? 1972? It's a nonsense, it doesn't exist, society changes over time, normality changes over time, things that were normal 50 or 100 years ago we now rightly won't accept and/or have made illegal. 'Home correction' used to be a thing, whereby a husband could keep his wife 'well behaved' with physical violence, now we call it spousal abuse and you can get arrested for it. Or is that a bit of 'normality' and 'traditional society' that we can all agree should remain in the past?
The confected moral panic about trans people (already one of the most marginalised groups in society) is abhorrently close to what gay people had to suffer in decades past, I wonder if all the folks getting their knickers in a twist about trans people now (BUT WHICH TOILETS WILL THEY USE ZOMG?) would have been up in arms about THE GAYS in years gone by.....