Tradition Casino

lots0

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According to reports at AGD, Tradition Casino is now ran by RIVAL.

The original owners/license holders of Tradition Casino have announced that they have thrown in the towel.

The casino seems to have reverted to RIVAL management, payment processing etc.
 

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Short version - we can't stand the heat, we're getting out of the kitchen.

Presumably this is an affiliate notification. It will be interesting to see of anyone thinks enough about the players to communicate with them as well.
 

KasinoKing

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Presumably this is an affiliate notification.
It will be interesting to see of anyone thinks enough about the players to communicate with them as well.
Yes it was sent to affiliates.

Rival might decide not to inform players as from what I've heard they have taken over running the casino, and so players will probably not notice any difference.

KK
 

maphesto

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If things are working perfectly in the player-affiliate-casino way it's also up to the affiliates to tell players what happened. Of course an email from the casino can be on its place "we have new owners" etc but the informative explanation can affiliates do.

Affiliates get paid to be informative and to bring new players to the casino. I think that many players have signed up from big affiliate sites.
 

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If things are working perfectly in the player-affiliate-casino way it's also up to the affiliates to tell players what happened. Of course an email from the casino can be on its place "we have new owners" etc but the informative explanation can affiliates do.

Affiliates get paid to be informative and to bring new players to the casino. I think that many players have signed up from big affiliate sites.
I disagree because a player may never visit the site again if they used an affiliate site. Besides, an affiliate does not have last and first names nor any contact information. Rival should step up to the plate and notify their players but my guess is they won't because they don't want to lose players because sending out such an announcement might make players think there is more risk involved. :eek:
 

maphesto

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I disagree because a player may never visit the site again if they used an affiliate site. Besides, an affiliate does not have last and first names nor any contact information. :
An affiliate who has made a review about a casino and their bonuses can easily make a note on the page such as:

*Attention*

We do not work with Tradition Casino anymore due to unknown ownership now. Their former owner has left the ship and we strongly advice you to quickly remove your funds there. The casino is probably run by Rival themselves now but as long as we don't know we once again advice you to avoid them


Those affiliates who send weekly/monthly newsletters can put the warning there.

It's an easy way to reach some of the players they have sent to the casino.

I think that this is a decent behaviour, at least for those affiliates who care about "their" players.

Rival should step up to the plate and notify their players but my guess is they won't because they don't want to lose players because sending out such an announcement might make players think there is more risk involved. :eek:
Of course!

The Tradition BJ scandal hurt many Rival casinos and Rival themselves probably wants to get some of the money back. And they have earlier showed us that their idea of answering questions is unfortunately by silence. :rolleyes:

I like Rival software and I think that they can gain trust by having a "software rep" on forums like this.
 

Nifty29

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Yes it was sent to affiliates.

Rival might decide not to inform players as from what I've heard they have taken over running the casino, and so players will probably not notice any difference.

KK
Except that withdrawals will probably take longer, as the Rival default is 2-5 business days which inevitably means in the last hour of the 5th business day.

At least with non-Rival owned properties they can set a shorter timeframe if they want.
 

lots0

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Short version - we can't stand the heat, we're getting out of the kitchen.

Presumably this is an affiliate notification. It will be interesting to see of anyone thinks enough about the players to communicate with them as well.
I posted here at CM in a PLAYERS forum, so that Players would be aware of the change of ownership/management.

I don't believe that RIVAL's management really wants this info out there for the players, as they should not be effected by it.

But I think everyone should know, so they can make informed judgments about playing at RIVAL casinos.


maphesto said:
I like Rival software and I think that they can gain trust by having a "software rep" on forums like this.
If memory serves me, Rival already tried that. The 'poor rep', got flustered by all the questions that could not be answered and quit showing up. I like RIVAL software too, but their management and ownership is at best questionable. What good is good software if the folks running it are ethically challenged?
 

lots0

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Do you mean casinos run by Rival or all casinos using Rival software when you write Rival casinos?
I mean casinos ran by RIVAL.
There are a couple of license holders that are not white labels and use different payment processors and are really trying (from my point of view) to take the high road in all of this.
 

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If things are working perfectly in the player-affiliate-casino way it's also up to the affiliates to tell players what happened. Of course an email from the casino can be on its place "we have new owners" etc but the informative explanation can affiliates do.

Affiliates get paid to be informative and to bring new players to the casino. I think that many players have signed up from big affiliate sites.
You want them to LIE:rolleyes:

These have ALWAYS been operated and owned by Bonne Chance, all that has changed is that their MARKETING PARTNER (Igaming.pro) has pulled out of being an AFFILIATE, and is no longer prepared to back the casino, nor Rival, because they are losing money on the deal.
 

maphesto

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You want them to LIE:rolleyes:

These have ALWAYS been operated and owned by Bonne Chance, all that has changed is that their MARKETING PARTNER (Igaming.pro) has pulled out of being an AFFILIATE, and is no longer prepared to back the casino, nor Rival, because they are losing money on the deal.
What??

Aha...stupid me. Is this what people mean by super affiliate?

They didn't own it?

Well, I am not kidding now. I thought that casinos like Vegas Regal, Tradition, Dendera, Tropica etc. had separate owners but paid for website, support and payout system because it was cheaper.

I have always thought that Pantasia was Bonne Chance own casino though.

:oops:

Explain please!
 

vinylweatherman

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What??

Aha...stupid me. Is this what people mean by super affiliate?

They didn't own it?

Well, I am not kidding now. I thought that casinos like Vegas Regal, Tradition, Dendera, Tropica etc. had separate owners but paid for website, support and payout system because it was cheaper.

I have always thought that Pantasia was Bonne Chance own casino though.

:oops:

Explain please!
"super affiliate" is simply a company of such size that it can cut special deals with the brands it promotes. It can also mean affiliate companies that run HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS, of websites. This is distinct from many "regular" affiliates that operate from their bedroom/living room/office etc, and run a small number of websites for "pocket money".

In the other case, Vanguard and Slots Power, a very similar course of events took place, and the "owners" of these two casinos turned out to be "marketing partners" who also promoted other casinos. A REAL owner would NOT be promoting THEIR COMPETITORS, even if from different website.

It seems closing down a Rival "white label" casino is as simple as "handing in the keys" to Bonne Chance, with NO lasting obligation or responsibility to players or affiliates. This is NOT what happens when a REAL owner gets rid of a casino. They either SELL it, or allow it to be rescued in the best way possible.

This is NOT what is happening here. It seems these three have been happy to hand over everything to Bonne Chance, even their PLAYERS, yet cling on to the WEBSITE:confused:, even though this is no good once the casino it fronted ceased to exist. WHY have they clung to the website, rather than pass it over to Bonne Chance along with the players for a TRULY seamless exit from the operation.

Clearly, we are NOT getting the FULL story here.

In all cases, no PROMISES have been made, only statements along the lines of "we HOPE that Rival will continue to honour commitments to......."
 

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I always considered a "super affiliate" an affiliate that recruits other affiliates.
 

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