Today's announcement re-UK gaming

[Gaz237]

Just heard on LBC, that there's going to be some announcements today regarding gambling in the UK.

Heard that a £100 loss limit a month is going to be Imposed, until you can prove you can afford more.

Sounds like stake limits are going to be imposed as well.

Also offering incentives for offshore companies to move back to the UK.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

RIP gambling in the UK

Utter nonsense all of this

 

[dionysus]

if he hasnt already posted in the forum and it's legit forum news , also a good idea to flag @News Hound - just lends aid for everyone so it reaches a larger audience being on the 'main' page as everyone aren't forum junkies like us

 

[irish-ranger]

Well if the source was LBC pinch and salt springs to mind

 

[dionysus]

cheers on the title tweak

 

[Borgie]

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I think this may be what is being referred to. Its a report as opposed to becoming law today.

 

[slot_zombie]

Collecting hearts in Lil Devil would be a 3 month project with those limits, lol. then it goes for £22.40.

And equally striking, a ban on white label sites.

There's a massive chunk of the UK industry gone right there.

 

[lewisnadasurf]

I agree with a blanket approach. But I sincerely hope they don’t go with a stupidly low amount like the £2 spins on FOBTs.

It’s funny. I can go into Tesco and buy 25 bottles of vodka and no one will bat an eye lid, but spend £201 on gambling and it raises eyebrows. ‍

too low and it simply forces people to Curacao. Gamblers will gamble.

 

[News Hound]

Looking into this now, one sentence stuck out like a sore thumb from The Guardian piece.

"One of the most eye-catching proposals is a £100 “soft cap” on monthly losses, with customers who want to spend more subjected to strict affordability checks by an independent gambling ombudsman."

I can think of one such casino that could take on this role to do this, they not only meet the bar, they exceed about 1 mile above it.

 

[ZoeP]

Soon we will not be allowed out our house without the Chain and Ball, a Mask Bubble suit and a limit of 200 meters walk a day.

What is the point in even living, when every corner you turn somethings being restricted and censored.

 

[News Hound]

This is the actual PR that The Guardian based their article on, which I in turn will use to put something together for the home page.

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[News Hound]

Should you have time to kill today, the full report, all 82 pages of it, can be read here:

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[slot_zombie]

too low and it simply forces people to Curacao. Gamblers will gamble.

Curacao is just a confidence trick so they'll only be trying it once.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

As a frame of reference here, a study last year found that the average British adult has £276 of disposable income per month, so the limit suggested here is that by default, the average person won't be able to lose more than around 40% of their disposable monthly income via online gambling.

Framed in those terms, it doesn't seem particularly crazy.

Remember, it wasn't that long ago that the UK gambling 'industry' was arguing tooth and nail that people should be free to spunk £100 per spin on FOBTs down their local high street, which with the benefit of hindsight was clearly batshit crazy.

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[dunover]

Should you have time to kill today, the full report, all 82 pages of it, can be read here:

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A riveting read, surely a future literary classic.

 

[shadow123]

Read about 20 pages then got bored and fed the fish,
A couple of things caught my attention,the creation of more quangos and the fact that lotteries
are harmless fun, so safe kids can play them.
The idea of expanding the physical machine cats to online sounds disastrous.
Will wade through it all when I am bored out my tits sometime.

 

[dunover]

This is the most inept and potentially disastrous report you'll ever read. It has been created in the main by people who know BUGGER-ALL about the reality and mechanics of the industry.

Let me guess.... Casinomir (the scam affiliate site) will right now be buying Google ad keywords "Casinos with no £100 limit".

If you want absolute proof of their ignorance, they profess to be aware of the illegal unlicensed black market 1668/JAZ scams etc.
They then go on to as good as say that because they haven't seen the report into that commissioned by Hills among others, the £1.4bn black market is BS. Perhaps they should read this forum!

We have had sight of the PWC report, but are unable to respond to its findings due to the fact that it remains an internal document. We would suggest that only when the report is made publicly available can we, and other analysts, engage with the data it uses and the claims it makes. Until that happens, we are obliged to rely on the only formal public statement that has up until now been made: a statement by the Chief Executive of the Gambling Commission recently at the Public Accounts Committee that “the Gambling Commission does not see a lot of evidence – certainly not on the scale that has been claimed in some of the reports produced by the industry – of this burgeoning black market”. Crucially, he says that “I know that the question of a burgeoning black market is often put forward as a concern – that somehow if the Gambling Commission keeps pushing standards, players will be pushed into the illegal market. That is not what we are seeing,

Now if the above paragraph doesn't show you all what a waste of time these people are, nothing will. If a civil servant or other shiny-arse they recognize doesn't say it, then it isn't happening.

Look at the names of the 'trustees' - Baroness Grender MBE, Tom Ebbutt, Rt Hon Dame Margaret Hodge MP, Peter Readman, Melville Rodrigues, Trevor Phillips OBE, Professor Tim Bale, Rt Hon Baroness Morgan of Cotes.

These are mostly left-leaning politicians, who as we know fuck everything up when left to their own devices. Jobs for the boys (or girls).....

The Guardian will be lapping it up, the industry will be face-palming and the players will lose out in every way. £100 a month, so how are casinos going to offer bonuses, incentives etc? How the hell is one licensee going to know if you've spent already a ton at another one? Would there be a real-time Gamstop-like registry of what ever individual UK player has deposited thus far?

If I had more time I could point out about another 10 examples of conclusions there that range from illogical, then ignorant right through the spectrum to outright insanity.

 

[paulcr]

Would there be a way for UK players to connect through a virtual office say in Malta to play, ie not a vpn. Could have a virtual office with a machine running you Remote Desktop to from the UK and play from the Malta based machine,

 

[dealer wins]

Unlicenced casinos here we come. I really am starting to hate this country

 

[thr0b]

I suspect a lot of casinos will start to decide whether it's worthwhile having a UKGC licence. I suspect a few will then start to accept UK players under the MGA licence instead. Too big a market to lose.

 

[News Hound]

Covered this now on the main site, which you can read here: Social Market Foundation Propose £100 a Month Spending Cap on Gambling Online

 

[News Hound]

The Guardian will be lapping it up

So much so, that they employed two journalists for their piece published earlier this morning!

 

[colinsunderland]

No point at all in stake limits if you have to prove affordability on anything over £23 a week.
If you can only deposit £23 a week you aren't going to be staking over £5 a spin, so why put the limit in place.
If you can prove affordability, and get a limit of say £1000 a month, then wheres the point in limiting stakes, if you can afford £1000 a month and spend it using £2 spins or £20 spins, then what difference would it make?

If these measures are brought in, I can see a lot of casinos either pulling out the UK market, or closing down.

 

[SnakeFood]

I'm just thankful I have these people to protect me! And all without me ever buying a copy of The Guardian. So kind!

I look forward to having to supply a liver function test next time I try to buy my third pint

 

[Supababe]

Is the £100 limit per casino?
If so, that’s not so unreasonable is it?
Playing at my L&L Casinos alone... I could Technically lose £600 a month still (which is more than I have spare to play with) so is it such a shocking limit?