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Well i had a look here at cm for a new playtech to play at.

Tila casino is where this chat session was from.

I found that when i asked my question, the agent left me in the lurch while she looked into it. Did not even know if she was there or had read my inquiry :rolleyes:

Chat sessions can end accidentally but it wouldnt surprise me if this was not the case. :mad:

Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'Bridget'
you: Hi can you tell me about the sign up bonus
Bridget: Hello! Welcome to Tila Live Customer Support, how may I help you?
you: Hi can you tell me about the sign up bonus
you: you here
Bridget: With regards to our deposit bonus inquiry, you will be entitled to received as much as 300 Welcome bonus from us for your successful first and second deposits. :)
you: yeah i see that on your site page
you: whats the %
you: match %
Chat session has ended.
 

LOOKAWAY

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match is 100% at tila.

Ok so i was looking at vegas casino online rtg.

And i just contacted support with this question>

Hi I am from England UK can you tell me what the wagering on your sign up bonus will be.

Also is the bonus cashable, as I pulled this from your tacs and it looks like it is.

To withdraw your bonus, winnings, and deposit amount you will need to wager 40 times your deposit plus bonus.


Now i see that my country is listed as a threat :rolleyes: so i asked what the wagering would most likely be.

Also it looks like the bonus is cashable, Could that be true a cashable rtg bonus ?

I have been putting the time in to be able to find a new casino especially a playtech so i can find a good match% to play the new novel playtech slots.

I am trying so hard not to deposit at the usual suspects! :p
 

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Thanks rivalfan, either way i will have to wait for a reply from support.

tick..tock..no email yet! :rolleyes:
 

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Well i had a look here at cm for a new playtech to play at.
Tila casino's SUB is a total joke! - that's the only reason I don't list them on my site.

For a much better Playtech, try Better Casino!
CasinoMeister accredited (& KK recommended :rolleyes:), they have a much more generous SUB (although I must warn you it's Post wager!). I signed up there last month, lost on cards but won on slots & made $310 profit - though that would have been much more if I hadn't 'gone a bit daft' at the end of WR... :oops:

KK
 

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Tila casino's SUB is a total joke! - that's the only reason I don't list them on my site.

For a much better Playtech, try Better Casino!
KK
I do not know Tila SUB, but I still find Better Casino a joke as well.

With only slot kind of games allowed (playtechs videoslots are 92%!) AND a 40*deposit wager AND bonus is credited postwager.

It will be seriously hard to receive this bonus from only fiirst deposit and you will very likely end up having to deposit multiple times your initial deposit again to release that bonus. :eek:

I find that close to a deposit/wager life sence as a welcome to new players :)
 

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I do not know Tila SUB, but I still find Better Casino a joke as well.

With only slot kind of games allowed (playtechs videoslots are 92%!) AND a 40*deposit wager AND bonus is credited postwager.

It will be seriously hard to receive this bonus from only fiirst deposit and you will very likely end up having to deposit multiple times your initial deposit again to release that bonus. :eek:

I find that close to a deposit/wager life sence as a welcome to new players :)
Could not agree more Zoozie.
The times that I have found a bonus is post wager I have deposited several times just to get the bonus and it ends up more like a 10% cashback bonus after minimum 5 deposits.
Does not sound so great when put like that.
 

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I do not know Tila SUB, but I still find Better Casino a joke as well.

With only slot kind of games allowed (playtechs videoslots are 92%!) AND a 40*deposit wager AND bonus is credited postwager.

It will be seriously hard to receive this bonus from only first deposit and you will very likely end up having to deposit multiple times your initial deposit again to release that bonus. :eek:

I find that close to a deposit/wager life sence as a welcome to new players :)
It's not slots only actually - these are the terms:-

SUB = 100% to 100 / €140 / $190. WR (D+B)x20 Post Wager
No Roul, Bacc, Sic Bo, Craps, Hold 'Em, VP, Pontoon & all forms of Blackjack.
So that means PaiGow, Stud, 3-card, Ride, War, Red-Dog & slots count at 100%.

And this is my report of what happened when I signed up (as posted on another site):-

I managed to keep my balance slowly rising until with only $660 of my $7,600 wagering to go my bank was at $513. But then, as is all too often the case, I told myself to low-roll to WR point - but didn't and blew $131... Stupid!

Anyway, the post-wager $190 bonus was added instantly the moment I met WR (I really like that feature with Playtech casinos!), taking my balance to $572.

I felt so good about making it, I went back to play a bit more on my favourite slots to try to get to $600... you can guess the rest! Bank dropped rapidly to $500 - so I hit the cashout button!
Pretty stupid way to end I know - but I like a gamble me! :cool:
The cash arrived in my Neteller the next day.

Stats:-
PaiGow; Wagered $1,214 - Lost $110
Stud: Wagered $319 - Lost $85
3-Card; Wagered $422 - Gained $52
Let 'em Ride; Wagered $100 - Gained $11
All the rest was on Slots; Wagered $5,709 - Gained $252 (could have easily been $200-ish more if I wasn't so silly at the end).
Nett Result; Deposited $190 - Cashed out $500 - Profit = $310.

KK

PS: How do you know Playtech slots only return 92%? :confused:
 

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PS: How do you know Playtech slots only return 92%? :confused:
Before I heard the payout for Playtech I would have guess 92%-95% from my experience with the slot. But then a Playtech casino representative leaked some good info about Playtech data on a new video-slot. I think he should have written 9x.xxx% which would not reveal that much, but he didnt :)

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/19642-what-constitutes-fair-slot.html#post184430

Mind you, first x could be a 9, which would make it 92.9% and actually closer to 93%.
 

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I do not know Tila SUB, but I still find Better Casino a joke as well.

With only slot kind of games allowed (playtechs videoslots are 92%!) AND a 40*deposit wager AND bonus is credited postwager.

It will be seriously hard to receive this bonus from only fiirst deposit and you will very likely end up having to deposit multiple times your initial deposit again to release that bonus. :eek:

I find that close to a deposit/wager life sence as a welcome to new players :)
It's certainly not a great bonus, but it's still EV+ on 3-card poker, which is an allowed game. Similarly the Tila Casino SUB is poor, but EV+ with high-variance bets on the allowed games. If I had to pick one of the two SUBs as being "a joke", I'd go with Tila Casino primarily because of their unique history, including forum posts like the one at http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/156789-post41.html .
 

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Interesting! :thumbsup:

Example for slot Y

Payout
92.XX%
Hit frequency (one line)
5.XX%
Hit frequency (X lines)
7X.XX%
Max win (in coins, when betting 10 coins per line)
5 Wilds: 10 x 10,000 = 100,000 coins
Max win (monetary, when betting 10 coins per line)
100,000 x max coin size
Probability of max win
1 in XXX,XXX,726
Of course, this is only for 1 slot & doesn't mean they are all the same.
Also on the last line the chance of hitting the jackpot (if he put an X over every figure) is over 100 million to 1. I can't think of any Playtech slot which could have odds like that, so the whole thing is a bit strange.

If the hit frequency on 1 line is 5.x% and on all lines is 7x.x% I think that means it has to be a 15-line slot. Does that make sense?
If that's right, then it must be Geisha Story - because that's the only 15-liner they have, and it's quite new.
When I played it I thought it seemed OK. But of course it's impossible to judge the return of any slot without playing 10,000's of spins.

Overall I was happy with the payouts of the slots I played as being comparable to MG (or any other software), though they are generally mostly low variance.
KK
 

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Interesting! :thumbsup:
...Jackpot chance is over 100 million to 1. I can't think of any Playtech slot which could have odds like that, so the whole thing is a bit strange.

If the hit frequency on 1 line is 5.x% and on all lines is 7x.x% I think that means it has to be a 15-line slot. Does that make sense?

Overall I was happy with the payouts of the slots I played as being comparable to MG (or any other software), though they are generally mostly low variance.
KK
100M to 1 is not that unusual if it is calculated when playing 1 line.
With 7x.x% hit frequency incidates it is a 15+ lines slot, where I am more to 25-line.

I know this is just data for 1 specific slot, but all providers tend to have slotpayout% for all their slots within a very small range. (<2%).

And I agree with you that low variance slot are better at conceiling a low payout%.

But I still stand by my opinion on Playtech payout%.

There are some Playtech involved members in this forum and they are free to speak up...
 

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Hi thanks for the info, i like my bonus straight up front.

Now how come vegas online casino is on the accredited list when they still have not answered my email. :confused:
 

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Still no reply from vegas online casino, thought casinos had to reply pretty quick to be on the accredited list.

But then again i have not signed up as yet. :rolleyes:

I did expect more from picking from the accredited list, but am i back to just needing a casino to pay up if i win. :confused:

Anyway i had signed up to nearly all casinos out there before joining CM, so i decided it was about time to find one off the accredited list, which was red flush in the end as a back up as i was looking for something different than MG, but happy in a way i ended up there. ;)
 

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Still no reply from vegas online casino, thought casinos had to reply pretty quick to be on the accredited list.

But then again i have not signed up as yet. :rolleyes:

I did expect more from picking from the accredited list, but am i back to just needing a casino to pay up if i win. :confused:
I have the same problem on Rushmore and that's why i'll never play there for the future, because i've sent them my documents now 4 days ago, but received never any response.

They're here also on the accredited list, although i don't know why?

I can only compare it to inetbet, but they answer always very quickly, at most even within 15 minutes, or sometimes even faster!
 

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Yes now this a little strange, that alot off players here at CM play at inetbet even know they have tight slots, when there is other rtg accredited casinos listed.

Now i have seen more rushmore players in the lucky ss thread and only few times vegas online casino.

Maybe this is the reason, poor support.

But is this is a case then surely there should be more accredited casinos.

Have you contacted the rep here at CM about your docs needing approved?

I would do the same but i have not committed yet, and unless something miraculous happens from VO casino, i will never!
I was going to make rushmore my next rtg, after checking if they do money bookers transactions, didn't think they did when they opend there cyber doors at the beginning off there great gambling venture.

Now also have you tryed sending in your docs separately, sometimes that helps, just in case they cannot open them in bulk at there end.
 

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Have you contacted the rep here at CM about your docs needing approved?
No, but i used now their live chat, although this was also not really helpful for me:

"You will be notified once your faxback form and documents get approved, or if there is anything missing from the needed documents"

now this a little strange, that alot off players here at CM play at inetbet even know they have tight slots, when there is other rtg accredited casinos listed.
If you play only 20 cent bets, there is no difference between inetbet and rushmore, i think, but certainly you must be also very lucky on both, to win something ;)
 

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100M to 1 is not that unusual if it is calculated when playing 1 line.
With 7x.x% hit frequency incidates it is a 15+ lines slot, where I am more to 25-line.

I know this is just data for 1 specific slot, but all providers tend to have slotpayout% for all their slots within a very small range. (<2%).

And I agree with you that low variance slot are better at conceiling a low payout%.

But I still stand by my opinion on Playtech payout%.

There are some Playtech involved members in this forum and they are free to speak up...
In a later post the rep said: "In this example the X number of lines = 25"
So it should be Football Rules or Alien Hunter given the date of the post and release of the games. For me it was shocking news that either of those slots could have so low payout%. I played a lot with both games, and I can pretty well imagine that the above payout% is accurate, and the rep had no reason to publish a lower number than the real payout%.
There's a huge difference between a 95,5% payout and a 92,9% payout, even considering the slot's variance. Imagine playing 3 card or pai gow poker or even roulette with and without house edge, 2,6% does matter.
It is only my best guess, but I believe that the 20liners and the 9liners might have a bit lower house edge. But I would bet that they are well below 95% as well.
 

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