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Three Royals in a week nets player $736,407.00

Discussion in 'Online Casino and Poker Complaints - old section' started by cipher, Mar 19, 2006.

    Mar 19, 2006
  1. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Yes, that right three Royal Straight Flushes within a weeks time netting the player $736,407.00. But where is the MONEY? Since the 6th of February the player has received a total of $26,000.00 despite having requested to be paid in full on two occasions.

    Moreover, since the 6th of February the player has been subjected to (3)three separate and distinct "investigations" and now the casino claims to have not received the player's documents, despite the fact that those documents have been sent a total of (3) three times now.

    I've been involved with this case for the better part of a month now, when the player contacted me after becoming concerned that he would not be paid. The casino remains alarmingly quiet in this regard.

    The casino's terms and conditions provides absolutely no information as to how and when large payouts such as this are to be paid. Possibly because the casino was counting on no large payouts. BIG MISTAKE.

    Lastly, I find it most peculiar that the casino has made absolutely no public mention of these three wins within the span of a weeks time, as I've never heard of anything even close to it happening before in my eight years of internet gaming.

    My question, is how long is long enough for this individual to wait to be paid?


    Have a good one.
     
  2. Mar 19, 2006
  3. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Answer: 3-5 days max unless they have a clause in their terms and conditions that cover payment schedules.

    Here's a question: which casino is this?
     
  4. Mar 19, 2006
  5. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

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    Really curious about that too.
     
  6. Mar 19, 2006
  7. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Hi Bryan:

    I just sent you an email with some more details on this one. Additionally, I've sent the casino REP. a copy of this post so I'm going to keep the name of the casino under wraps for a bit longer or at least give the REP another opportunity to respond to the facts of the post.

    Have a good one.
     
  8. Mar 19, 2006
  9. paul02085

    paul02085 Senior Member

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    Wow. I smell another Pirate thread starting here. Holy cow. How do you even win 750k on 3 royals?? Can someone fill this poor lowroller in on that.

    Cant wait for more details.:eek2:
     
  10. Mar 19, 2006
  11. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    You find yourself a set of brass balls and 5G's and go to work.

    Have a good one.
     
  12. Mar 19, 2006
  13. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Wow, this amount owed is equal to a progressive. Cipher, you mentioned that the player was already paid $26000 so why does the casino still need documents?

    You cant name the casino yet but can you tell us which software its using. RTG, I guess as that's where most RF's appear.
     
  14. Mar 19, 2006
  15. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

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    WOW cipher, I cannot imagine the odds of hitting three Royals in a week! The details are a bit sketchy, but can I gleen these Royals were all at the same casino? If so, those odds are astronomical!

    So, the $26k the player has received -- any chance that is the amount of the deposits that netted the three Royals?

    I can imagine some casino folks working furiously around the clock trying to find some glitch that allowed such a thing to happen.

    Keep us posted -- this is a rare find.
     
  16. Mar 19, 2006
  17. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    HI CHUCHU59:

    It's been a while Chuch, I can tell you that it's not an RTG casino. I dont think I'd be able to handle another one of those. Additionally Chuch, I have no idea as to why the casino is asking for DOCS after having paid the initial $26,000.00.

    Have a good one.
     
  18. Mar 19, 2006
  19. sdaddy

    sdaddy Meister Member

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    This scale of win is theoretically possible on RTG software. For example:

    - hitting a pat royal on 50 or 100 line VP

    - hitting a sequential royal on $5 single line Joker Poker

    Just hope it's not a less-than-reputable joint we're dealing with here.

    Edit: Ok, it's not RTG.
     
  20. Mar 19, 2006
  21. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Hi SUZECAT:

    All three of these Royals were at the same casino.

    Have a good one.
     
  22. Mar 19, 2006
  23. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Got your email, and I'll double check the status on the casino rep. I had a number of high echelon contacts at this casino group, but they have left over the past few months.

    Looks like an interesting week, and I'm looking toward your update.
     
  24. Mar 19, 2006
  25. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    Juicy story when it eventually breaks (if it breaks - there could be an NDA)

    I can understand Cipher's circumspect approach as this matter is clearly at a sensitive stage at present, but it does sound suspicious that the casino hasn't listed the (record) win or made publicity capital out of it. Is the casino at least communicating?

    I hope you'll keep us informed as far as you can Cipher!
     
  26. Mar 19, 2006
  27. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Hi Jet:

    The casino has been pathetically quiet Jet, as well as their parent company.

    Have a good one.
     
  28. Mar 19, 2006
  29. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    Whoa! Not exactly professional, businesslike or encouraging in terms of honesty on the casino's part or it's parent if they have just clammed up and are taking the player around the houses with *investigations*, slow pay and ID re-runs.

    This is going to be interesting. In your opinion do you think they have the ability to pay, Cipher? Has your player recorded the detail on his/her win?

    Please don't answer if you think any of these questions might prejudice your case.
     
  30. Mar 19, 2006
  31. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Every aspect incident to this case has been memorialized to the nth degree, of that you can be sure Jet.

    Quote: "In your opinion do you think they have the ability to pay" Let's put it this way Jet, if they don't pay, there will be a huge hit on the gaming business as we currently know it and you can take that to the bank.

    Have a good one.
     
  32. Mar 20, 2006
  33. thelawnet

    thelawnet Dormant account

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    There are very few casinos where you could win this much dough.

    Crypto, $250 max on Jacks or Better 10 line - $200k royal - not enough to win $720k in 3 royals.

    Grand Virtual doens't let you bet enough to make a $250k win either.

    Casino On Net has $250 max bet on 50-line JoB, so again a $200k max win

    Playtech $100 Jacks or Better 4 line - $80k max

    Boss $25 single line, $20k max

    Microgaming $125 Jacks or Better 50 line, or $62.50 Deuces & Joker 50 line ($125k max)

    Odds On has a $200k max win, via $100 bets on Deuces and Joker Wild

    The only brand that this would normally be achievable on is starluck/planetluck - they have a number of games that would allow the kind of wins that wouldn't exactly put Partygaming out of business, but might warrant a mention on the balance sheet:

    Kanga Cash and Vegas Club, two video poker games with a 1000 coin royal flush and a $500 max bet ($500k max win). A $250 bet here would win $250k.

    Their normal video poker games (jacks or better) have been removed from their website at the moment, for upgrades or maintenace or something, but the max bet on these games was always only $5.

    ---

    The details are going to be interesting here - did the casino raise its limits. What coin was the player playing? With $240k royals, that's $60 coins on a normal 4000 coin jackpot. $60 coins would be a little strange. So a 1000 coin jackpot and $50 coins is much more likely. Some kind of progressive? (they should have the cash to pay) Or some other jackpot, or even higher royals accompanied with a lot of play in between - e.g., $100 coins, for a $400k win * 3 = $1.2million, minus the money lost playing for the royals (or maybe a two huge royals and a merely big one).

    Or is it some where I haven't played (e.g., gambling federation), that is crappy and irresponsible and has limits it can't afford to pay.

    Maybe the player is a super whale and actually did play video poker at $500/time.
     
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  34. Mar 20, 2006
  35. paul02085

    paul02085 Senior Member

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    This to me means its one of the big boys. I hope it is cause the odds are he will get paid. Can we start a poll to guess what casino it is? :)

    The suspense is killing me.
     
  36. Mar 20, 2006
  37. dominique

    dominique Dormant account

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    High rollers can usually ask to have their limits raised....
     
  38. Mar 20, 2006
  39. johnsteed

    johnsteed Ueber Meister

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    thelawnet




    Great list "thelawnet"!

    Just a thought (and I'm not sure why anyone would dare do this), but is it possible that the player doubled-up on one of those monster hits? I realize that at those stakes, a casino probably wouldn't allow any kind of double-up on $200K :eek: , but maybe... :what: That's the only thing I can think of. :confused: Perhaps that this $720K total is counted over the duration of one week, and the player won $200K 3 times, mixed-in with a few straight flushes (and a bunch of double-ups)?


    dominique



    Of course, this would make the most sense.


    Steed

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