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This is for three people I like

Discussion in 'The Attic' started by jod5413, Apr 3, 2010.

    Apr 3, 2010
  1. jod5413

    jod5413 Is That Better?

    Occupation:
    having a good time doing anything
    Location:
    somewhere on the planet
    Roanan,

    You have been a good member here for a while, I like your style and knowledge of this industry. :)

    Cindy,

    I like your "attitude" usually. You are funny and have a good heart. :thumbsup:

    Laurie,

    You seem like a nice person, but you do get "pissy" here and there, which I know about since you posted to me that way in the past here. ;)


    I know I am not in a position to chastise anyone here and that is not my intent. What is happening over at Dave's place is sad. And the longer you keep giving shit to each other, the worse you all will feel.

    My Opinion?

    I now know you are a guy, Roanan. Wasn't sure til now. When men get pissed they let it all go. After all, guys are "like that". Then, if not poked and prodded, they see the light and all is well. The words used in your post at Dave's are over the top. I wish you would retract them and use less offensive words. Woman really do not deserve to be called that, no matter what.

    I also wish you would edit your words about coming back here. You are an asset, if a bit snarky. Men are funny this way. If you back them in a corner about something, they will never relent and you are doing that to Max, not fair.

    Cindy, Damn it Woman. You know you have been giving Roanan a hard time recently. I noticed and wondered why. He originally helped you at your site, yes? But then something changed. For whatever reasons, you pushed him and he retaliated with a Private neg rep. No one but Bryan and maybe the mods could see it. Just you. Why you felt the need to post it is beyond me. I like you, Cindy, but private messages should stay private, no ifs, and's, or but's.

    Laurie, you have been an agitator over at Dave's tonight. You certainly have another side from that "Sweet Southern Belle". You are letting your anger lead you to keep pushing.

    All of you please, please stop. It is too much.

    my two cents only

    P.S. Wager Witch put a spell over me! Payback I guess. Now I ramble and wander all over in my posts! :p
     
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  2. Apr 3, 2010
  3. jas2587

    jas2587 Ueber Meister

    Occupation:
    none
    Location:
    FL
    he says I am following him that is in fact a lie I might have posted 4 post after he did

    it was a negative rep i was hurt an offended an did not deserve to be called a bitch maybe 4 months ago yes now no

    I never ask the man to help me with a thing LJ might have but I didn't

    Cindy
     
  4. Apr 3, 2010
  5. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    I asked him to check out the site and he let us know of 2 casinos that wasnt up to par and we yanked them, also that we copyrighted the flaming dice logo, they to will be gone.

    He called Cindy a horrible name and for a man or any good honest man would never do that, private or not. He also made a slander against her mother whom Cindy lost to Cancer, im sure he didnt know that, but still it was also bad to say and it pissed me off.

    Have i went overboard over at Daves site,im just answering back to his original thread and posts that he started, he wants MaxD to make a public apology here by in the morning or he has threatened to leave the forum, now that takes balls.

    He did decide to not call her a bitch anymore but decided the c--t word was better, i replied," another offensive word to women".

    I like you also Jod and im sorry that this all took place as Roanan is very good at what he does but i feel he needs to say he is sorry for acting the way he did, here and at OCR.

    Yes there is a not so sweet side to me sometimes but usually its brought on when i see a man degrading a woman by using foul words here or in our real life, abuse of women is something i take to heart and speak up for even if its just a foul word

    Thank you again Jod :) you are a decent and fair person imo.


    Laurie
     
  6. Apr 3, 2010
  7. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    PAID CASINO SHILL
    Location:
    Turn right, then right. then right again
    There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for using the 'c' word in a public forum anyway, much worse to actually call a woman that name.

    Roanan - if you did say this, you are a pig.

    Be a man and apologise.
     
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  8. Apr 3, 2010
  9. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

    Occupation:
    Not in workforce
    Location:
    Ontario
    My understanding from what was posted was the b*tch name calling was in awarding negative rep. This is not a PM, and just not cool at all with me. And even PMs should not give you licence to name call.

    And if Roanan used the c word, the banning should be longer than a couple of days IMO.
     
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  10. Apr 3, 2010
  11. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

    Occupation:
    The PAB Guy
    Location:
    Saltirelandia
    Such a threat is not going to produce the desired results, especially not in this case.

    My private response to this would be a lot more colourful but here I'll restrict myself to saying he earned it in spades and it's his to deal with as he sees fit.

    So yes, I fully stand behind the ban and will go so far as to say that if he can't take a 48 hour holiday from CM without popping a gasket -- as he apparently already done at OCR (wtf?!?) -- then there are other issues involved way over and above what has happened here. Normally I give people who are abusive toward fellow members 2 weeks, Roanan got a reduced sentence because at least he didn't run off the rails in public (at least not here).

    Whatever. I wish him a pleasant and peaceful weekend which, events permitting, is what I'm off to rustle up for myself.
     
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  12. Apr 3, 2010
  13. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    I must have missed something - what was Roanan banned for - anyone got a link to the issue?

    Agree that personal abuse through the use of insults and really offensive expletives is a no-no.
     
  14. Apr 3, 2010
  15. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Webmaster
    Location:
    Block S25, South Stand, Ashton Gate, BS3
    This is nice to wake up to in the morning :rolleyes:

    I have closed the thread in question on OCR but have left Roanan's remark intact. Way over the line IMO and Max was being lenient in only banning Roanan for the weekend from his comments here on CM.

    Whilst I haven't hit the ban button on OCR yet, I am hopeful Roanan will see the error of his ways and apologise either privately or publically.
     
  16. Apr 3, 2010
  17. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

    Occupation:
    The PAB Guy
    Location:
    Saltirelandia
    See http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...t-april-fools-day-yesterday-2.html#post357603.

    Short story: sending foul and degrading messages via the Reputation system + using the Rep system against a fellow member for personal issues = a 2 day -- 2 day -- ban from yours truly. He took his 'issue' over to OCR and really distinguished himself there.

    I hope I'm stating the obvious but the Reputation system is:
    • not to be used as a weapon against people.
    • not the Private Message system, in spite of the fact that the Rep giver's commentary is not publicly displayed.
    • not an appropriate venue for 'settling' personal scores.

    I have and will continue to welcome people to report abuse of the Rep system. What occurred here clearly and without a doubt qualifies as abuse.
     
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  18. Apr 3, 2010
  19. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

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    Yep. He earnt a fulltime timeout for doing so.
     
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  20. Apr 3, 2010
  21. WagerWitch

    WagerWitch Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    Yeah - like - really? Hmmm do I have to work?
    Location:
    Alaska
    No - no spell cast.

    ;)

    However Roanan - I need to tell you something... Any time you open your mouth online - it is NOT private.

    The ONLY time something is private is when you think it.

    Any time you express it in any way - it becomes the property of others to do with as they please.

    Still - in private - you should not have resorted to name calling. Sorry - it just isn't proper. Regardless of how you feel - vicious name calling is NOT appropriate to man, woman and sometimes even beasts...

    There are words that are gender specific for both males and females - and as adults we all know them... You should PROBABLY refrain from using those particular words when dealing with people...

    Sure - say them all that you want in your private thoughts - but please - once you voice them in any manner - you've opened yourself up for inspection by the general public.

    I understand the outcry people are having right now.

    I've never seen you in such a tizzy... So - I'm not sure of all the things involved.

    I generally like EVERYONE... So guys - I don't know what's going on - and why playgrounds are becoming divided - it shouldn't be that way.

    My end point is this:

    I implore you guys to try and get along.
     
  22. Apr 3, 2010
  23. bb28

    bb28 Meister Member

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    Customer Service
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    US
    Calling someone the c word is well the most hateful, derogatory thing I can think of that that anyone could say to a woman. There is just no excuse for that. :(:mad:

    It certainly changes my opinion about you Roanan and it isn't in a positive way.
     
  24. Apr 3, 2010
  25. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    Whoa - that thread went to hell in bucket quickly, and that was some pretty strong language deserving of disciplinary measures imo.

    Just an observation; anyone who thinks he or she is so indispensible that they can threaten to leave a forum as a form of retribution or pressure has imv badly overestimated their personal value and contribution.
     
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  26. Apr 3, 2010
  27. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

    Occupation:
    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    Just to play Devil's Advocate here....should someone really make public everything that goes on privately, behind the scenes? Maybe a brief PM to Max or Bryan would have been more appropriate than publicly posting, what was privately sent, ie. the neg rep comment? The end result probably would have been the same...a warning and/or suspension..but maybe "this" could have been avoided.

    And just FTR, in no way do I condone that "term" that Roanan used, nor am I defending it...the suspension is warranted. And as I have been told numerous times, there is always that ignore function, for those person's posts that really annoy you. It's pretty nifty, and it takes away the need to "reply" when you see something that you probably shouldn't bother replying to.
     
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  28. Apr 3, 2010
  29. jod5413

    jod5413 Is That Better?

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    I hate "that" word, what woman doesn't? I am sorry that Roanan couldn't hold it together and apologize, do his time and be back here ready to go back to his search for bad guys stuff. Obviously, I over rated him. My mistake.

    Bah! People are really impossible sometimes.
     
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  30. Apr 3, 2010
  31. anniemac

    anniemac Ueber Meister MM PABnoaccred

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    Texas, USA
    Been off the boards for a couple of days but just finished reading the posts at OCR and I am very disgusted. To call anyone vile, degrading names is so way beyond nasty but to call a woman THAT particular word not only shows the poster's true nature but is so over the top that, in my opinion, a permanent ban would have been in order.

    That said, the ignore button is a wonderful thing and should be used frequently. Sometimes it is better to take the high road and let stuff just roll over your head. Roanan shot himself in the foot. Nothing further needed to be said or done.
     
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  32. Apr 3, 2010
  33. WagerWitch

    WagerWitch Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    Yeah - like - really? Hmmm do I have to work?
    Location:
    Alaska
    Pina I like you a lot.

    I like the fact that you play devil's advocate and are comfortable expressing you opinion and reading other people's opinions without taking it personally or taking a personal attack on someone.

    I also like that you can look at a situation and sometimes see it in a different light than others can or do.

    I happen to agree with you that PRIVATE should be private... however after many years I have learned the HARD way that this just isn't so in this day and age. I have learned that if you don't want something heard or shown or passed around... if you don't want people discussing anything you've said or written then it should never leave the comfort of your own thoughts.

    In learning this I have learned a few things...

    NEVER TALK OR WRITE ABOUT SOMEBODY SOMETHING YOU WOULDN'T SAY TO THEIR FACE

    NEVER TRUST PEOPLE WHO YOU THINK ARE YOUR FRIENDS BECAUSE TOMORROW THEY MIGHT NOT BE... AND ANY SECRET YOU SHARED WITH THEM WILL BE OPEN PUBLIC INFORMATION.

    ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU... EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T SAY IT...

    SOMETIMES WHAT YOU SAY WILL BE CHANGED AROUND REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH PROOF YOU HAVE PROVING THE ORIGINAL CONTEXT.

    In my life I believe that I try to express myself clearly hence my extreme wordiness.

    But I still have thoughts I would never express out loud... because I generally don't like
    Hurting people but also because of those very things I wrote above.

    And I certainly would NEVER abuse someone privately in a forum setting and NOT expect it to come back to bite me....


    But these are just my humble thoughts.... yanno?

    If everyone WAS honorable... in the whole world it would be different... and private would mean private... but it just doesn't any more...

    And in this particular instance... I think it rather interesting that a different HIDDEN and ABUSIVE side of someone was shown thru this outing process... even though it is drama drama drama it is still interesting that someone was vulgar in a PM yet got upset when it was brought out for public scrutiny.

    I say back your words up... apologize if wrong... but don't play games...


    LMAO

    This really wasn't supposed to be a long post. Frick I am just gonna chop off my fingers one day and believe it or not I am typing this on my dayum cellphone.

    Gah
     
  34. Apr 3, 2010
  35. AussieDave

    AussieDave Dodgy whacko backstabber

    Occupation:
    Gaming SEO Specialist & Casino Webmaster
    Location:
    Australia
    Most people get to the point of screaming but no need to use a "word" like that; no excuse ever. For that outburst I too am disappointed by Roanan's choose of action.

    Granted an apology should have been made. But now Roanan is on 48 hour lock down, an apology now is impossible. Least not here or on OCR.

    I would hope that when the bans are lifted and Roanan has had time to cool down, an apology will be forthcoming.

    On the flip side I don't know what has gone down between jas, Luarie and Roanan. But in my experience when poop is flying it tends to stick on all sides. So maybe there is reason to call a truss. Maybe apologies are warranted all round.


    Cheers

    :)

    Dave
     
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  36. Apr 3, 2010
  37. Dangerous53

    Dangerous53 Experienced Member

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    In the wind
    In light of the posts that he made at OCR, CM has upped the two days to 30 days, posted here:http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...t-april-fools-day-yesterday-2.html#post357676

    IMO it was well deserved, and anything short of a public apology would be inadequate. We all have differing opinions on a variety of subjects, but there is no need for that kind of abuse in the forums. I thought we were all here for a common goal, to make Igaming a more informed better and safer experience, but it seems some have lost their focus.
     
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