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How could a player even "cheat" a win ? I understand, verification needs to happen to confirm the actual outcome, but still. With these days tech it should be quite easy to hammer down on anything cheating.

Usually developers don't want to go too specific/detailed regarding those topics, as this will often help the wrong side of the fence, but rest assured that alas, specifically due to 'today's tech' the possibilities of cheating have even increased the past few years. Basically, tech is moving forward so quickly, that the ones at the core of the newest programs, tools and systems, will always be fixing bugs, and creating new ones whilst doing it.

Even when those exploits are found, and used, more often than not it gets sweeped under the rug, and possible legal actions are kept private as well. So basically, you couldn't be more off with your last statement.

As if the bugs, cheats and similar technical mishaps (going both ways - Operators and developers vs. players, so to speak) weren't enough of a headache, there's the 'fake money streamer' problem, which you are very well aware of, seeing your posting history here, and elsewhere..

Oh and if the latter seemed a bit snide, it was meant to be: i saw a few videos and posts of you, criticizing said streamers, but seemingly falling in the same category?! I don't know but my nose at the very least smells some hypocrisy coming from your general direction, which is one of the few things in life i loathe.

Hope to be wrong, but usually i'm spot on with those feelings. I usually also keep quiet but i felt i just had to make you aware of that. I would have left it but i'm still quite appaled by some of your comments in the thread where member Neon claws lost his shit, and i felt everything you said was just well-disguised self promotion. I sincerely hope i'm just being an old, bitter sceptic, but this has been building up, so there you have it.
 
I am sure that the JeroenGambling account is another account of a member that was previously here. Can't recall the username but they did post some videos of Kronos slots in a landbased casino using the slam stop technique.
 
As if the bugs, cheats and similar technical mishaps (going both ways - Operators and developers vs. players, so to speak) weren't enough of a headache, there's the 'fake money streamer' problem, which you are very well aware of, seeing your posting history here, and elsewhere..

Oh and if the latter seemed a bit snide, it was meant to be: i saw a few videos and posts of you, criticizing said streamers, but seemingly falling in the same category?! I don't know but my nose at the very least smells some hypocrisy coming from your general direction, which is one of the few things in life i loathe.

Hope to be wrong, but usually i'm spot on with those feelings. I usually also keep quiet but i felt i just had to make you aware of that. I would have left it but i'm still quite appaled by some of your comments in the thread where member Neon claws lost his shit, and i felt everything you said was just well-disguised self promotion. I sincerely hope i'm just being an old, bitter sceptic, but this has been building up, so there you have it.




Self promotion for someone who cut his wrists after losing ? Are you insane? Lets not forget how N1 Group was involved into above roshtein demo click scam, and have a representative here on this forum stating it wont happen again. Yeah, explain to me how a streamer ends up with virtual the same balance while clicking on Demo mode. Look how rosh falls apart in his character after he realises he fucked up on livestream.

Lets just not forget the shitload of complaints on the N1 brand as a whole, as seen on
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Apart from that that i had my own (negative) experience with the brand you seem to promote as a disguised approach, i mean, what else would be your true purpose here? Answering the obvious?

There is no link involved in any of those threads where i give people some serious advice on how to work on their problem(s) and lives. I dispise streamers for imposing a false message, or at least, "being funded" and pretend it's raw or real cash. 90% of them is not, and there is a reason why offshore crypto based casino's are being promoted. Oh i guess it hurts your brand and you see serious cashflow draining away to rogue casino's that you must defend them?

Perhaps look at your own brand, before you point a finger out to me with a biased rant.
 



Self promotion for someone who cut his wrists after losing ? Are you insane? Lets not forget how N1 Group was involved into above roshtein demo click scam, and have a representative here on this forum stating it wont happen again. Yeah, explain to me how a streamer ends up with virtual the same balance while clicking on Demo mode. Look how rosh falls apart in his character after he realises he fucked up on livestream.

Lets just not forget the shitload of complaints on the N1 brand as a whole, as seen on
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Apart from that that i had my own (negative) experience with the brand you seem to promote as a disguised approach, i mean, what else would be your true purpose here? Answering the obvious?

There is no link involved in any of those threads where i give people some serious advice on how to work on their problem(s) and lives. I dispise streamers for imposing a false message, or at least, "being funded" and pretend it's raw or real cash. 90% of them is not, and there is a reason why offshore crypto based casino's are being promoted. Oh i guess it hurts your brand and you see serious cashflow draining away to rogue casino's that you must defend them?

Perhaps look at your own brand, before you point a finger out to me with a biased rant.

I'm only more convinced after this reply..

If you just came to this forum as 'Jeroen', 'Gambling fan' or w/e, it wouldn't be as obvious, but you came on here as 'jeroensgambling', which is obviously a promotion for your channel. Which in itself is perfectly fine - but as said, i seen you doing the same thing at another forum. The bits of content you shared here and there, were all slight compilations of 'i know-it-all/been there done that' + bad industry/streamers fingerpointing mash up's with a hint of 'responsible gambling' in the mix... All tied together with a lot of incoherent ramblings, and of course as many 'innocent links' to your channel as possible. Sure, some people just love to share their big wins. I don't think your one of those people.

All i see is someone trying to get a piece of the pie, selling themselves as the one streamer that act and plays the part, of someone that is in control, doing just the few cheeky bets here and there, and hitting some monsters. But some factors, such as you being a young Dutch guy, living in/playing at Portugese Casinos, other currencies/VPN and/or at the crapholes such as Roobet, while angrily pointing fingers at fellow streamers doing the same, and dropping these mostly incoherent postings on said topics, made it all suspect to me.

And i wasn't even trying to see anything, trust me! I just found it annoying but was not really interested. But as said when you came on here, i saw the same repeating, and then - in that thread i mentioned - i just had to sit on my hands, as i didn't want to divert the thread from it's natural evolvement, which was to help the O.P. get back on track.

But, o.k.: you just missed the point above, it seems - as you ask me how self promotion is related to that thread, where someoe cut his wrists? What i feel you did there, was just emphasize the fact that you are in control of yourself, and paint a trustworthy picture.

Let's put that aside for a minute though, and take your answer above: i dislike the whole N1 brand, and have literally zero to do with them. I just answered your question in general. Yet you see somthing different, and take another Jab at the Casino that seems to have hurt you in w/e manner, and throw in another competitor, maybe to divert the attention elsewhere? True or false, you carry on telling me how i am secretly advertising my own brand - N1? Or who exactly? Since they are the only one 'in' this thread, i'll assume you mean them. Tell me how i state the obvious - when i was just answering your question, telling you - you're wrong.

If that was a disguised attempt to promote my own channel, i wonder how? There's no gambling related channel or site called 'incrediblestuff' and i certainly don't post screenshots and/or video's that have even a remote link to a Casino (crappy ones at that) such as you. You obv. don't have to post links in a thread where someone made a suicide attempt or asked for help - that's where you talk off of your high horse, so people 'respect' you, then check you out, and see the various links to your channel. So a slightly more indirect approach. But still fairly obvious... (to me)

We both despise false streamers it seems, but i think our motives are vastly different. To make it clear - i'm absolutely anti, and have never defended that industry anywhere. I certainly never will point fingers to a 'product', say: that's bad! - and then try to sell the exact same thing i am saying is bad.. As said above - i loathe hypocrisy.

So in that sense - there is no brand for/from me, to look at. I can say a lot more, and although slightly tempted, i'll call it a day. ..

I'll summarize as follows: i don't feel you should be giving serious advice on lives or problems - for various reasons. I just don't believe you have good intentions.
 
Sure, some people just love to share their big wins. I don't think your one of those people.

Lol, ok. Well any of the affiliation is outside of this platform anyways. When i initially registered that was made clear. So i sticked to it. I dont have to really comment and hide hidden links in my posts, content or anything of that. Your talking with a proberly best paid marketeer on the internet with 13 years of experience. I really dont need sketchy shit to promote a product in the first place.

I do like gambling, nothing wrong with it. I do share my own set of big wins, they where made with real funds. Hey you can even see my bank account(s) at the end of the clip showing how real of a win that was. 130k in like 2 days straight over 2 casino's.



All i see is someone trying to get a piece of the pie, selling themselves as the one streamer that act and plays the part,

I'm not streaming. I dont know where you got it from. And i cant find myself in your comment. I dont play on shit places like Roobet. I stick to what is legal for the obvious; getting paid when i hit withdrawl and not sacked by some vague overseas crypto based casino. Whats wrong with that now?

I'll summarize as follows: i don't feel you should be giving serious advice on lives or problems - for various reasons. I just don't believe you have good intentions.

Who the f are you to judge ? The guy wrote to cut up his wrists, was found by his wife and left his childeren with a traumatized experience. I find that an extreme version that needs instant help. If you refer to my name commenting on his thread, and he might look for the name on google to end up on my website, perhaps this whole website is infested with affiliate links all over the place and that is a far greater danger then my comment(s) giving proper advice.

Your so off. Fellow dutch or not. You got me wrong. And frankly i dont give a shit at this point.
 
Lol, ok. Well any of the affiliation is outside of this platform anyways. When i initially registered that was made clear. So i sticked to it. I dont have to really comment and hide hidden links in my posts, content or anything of that. Your talking with a proberly best paid marketeer on the internet with 13 years of experience. I really dont need sketchy shit to promote a product in the first place.

I do like gambling, nothing wrong with it. I do share my own set of big wins, they where made with real funds. Hey you can even see my bank account(s) at the end of the clip showing how real of a win that was. 130k in like 2 days straight over 2 casino's.



I'm not streaming. I dont know where you got it from. And i cant find myself in your comment. I dont play on shit places like Roobet. I stick to what is legal for the obvious; getting paid when i hit withdrawl and not sacked by some vague overseas crypto based casino. Whats wrong with that now?



Who the f are you to judge ? The guy wrote to cut up his wrists, was found by his wife and left his childeren with a traumatized experience. I find that an extreme version that needs instant help. If you refer to my name commenting on his thread, and he might look for the name on google to end up on my website, perhaps this whole website is infested with affiliate links all over the place and that is a far greater danger then my comment(s) giving proper advice.

Your so off. Fellow dutch or not. You got me wrong. And frankly i dont give a shit at this point.

I've seen the shit you posted, and i didn't say you were a streamer: just in the same line of business, falling in the same category, and promoting Roobet and other crapholes. You are 'proberly' the best marketeer i ever encountered on the net, but can't even formulate half a proper English sentence?! I've seen your Youtube vids, and one of them is you warning other players/affiliates about Roobet, telling us you referred thousands of players before they locked your account. So you were both a player and an affiliate. Regardless of whatever your referal reward was), which means the above statement contains at least 2 lies. Also, in the video you barely look like a 13 yr. old, with a few too many hormones, but somewhere you got your 13 years of marketing experience?

Shall i say 'nuff said? Or do you want to keep embarrassing yourself? I specifically was annoyed because you're a fellow Dutch man, although i can't really call you a man after watching that video. Here is said video by the way.


Of course i wasn't sure, and still can't be sure if that is actually you, but you sure made it look that way. But o.k. - there's an off chance i completely misinterpreted everything up til now, I really want that to be true. I think that's just me being silly though. I appreciate you not giving a shit, because i'm done with our little interaction as well. This may surprise you, but this sort of 'encounter' on the net is literally my least favorite pastime. And i still engaged in it....

Edited to add - i only just now noticed you slapped in another unneeded link to one of your wins in that reply, and it shows you spinning at 100 a pop. No matter if you're young or old, rich or poor, you really think those are responsible bets? Even after you cashed out 50K according to that clip? No biggie, you can play however you want. And aside from that - i was not questioning any of your money and/or wins being real or not, I have suspicions of course but i never alluded to any of that. But you used this clip as proof? I checked it here and i did not see any of the bank statements you talk of, but even if they were included, that wouldn't prove shit. Don't know who came up with that...

Your marketing skills are off the charts though!
 
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Could you point me where i would promote, roobet, or any of those other crap casino's?

Ok. Lmao. You made an assumption that that was me. That is'nt me. That is'nt my video. That was another illustration that, roobet would even jack it's own affiliates. That was the point being that even from a affiliate side you coud'nt trust roobet or any of those casino's.

My voice would be even different compared to that bloke. The vids i up; well, they are kind of a collection of treasures on the net that i find and gather. They are part of my own website, when you would google it.

Lmao. You made my day man. :D
 
Could you point me where i would promote, roobet, or any of those other crap casino's?

Ok. Lmao. You made an assumption that that was me. That is'nt me. That is'nt my video. That was another illustration that, roobet would even jack it's own affiliates. That was the point being that even from a affiliate side you coud'nt trust roobet or any of those casino's.

My voice would be even different compared to that bloke. The vids i up; well, they are kind of a collection of treasures on the net that i find and gather. They are part of my own website, when you would google it.

Lmao. You made my day man. :D

Interesting! As i said, you basically made it look that way, not me. A normal content creator would at least put in a disclaimer...
I wasn't sure, as stated, but to me your channel avatar on Youtube looked similar enough, and my eyes are old and very tired..
(mostly due to people like you)

I definitely had doubts re: the video, because the guy in the video does indeed formulate proper sentences...
But i have a strong feeling you still play and promote @ comparable crapholes, or have done so in the past. And all of what i posted aside from referring to that video - absolutely still sums up to what i said about you, and your motives.

Sorry @homerbert i am also guilty of this derailment. I'll cut posting right here.
 
- kind of solved it in a PM, as this was a clear misunderstanding on who i was, what i promoted, and solely based on a video, that is'nt even mine.
 
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Well, kind of solved seems fair enough - i told you i was done. But my opinion certainly was not based upon that video, that just made my opinion 'stronger', and as stated above, does not retract any of my points, aside from the comment about 2 lies, and being a marketing genius.

That said, we conversed in Dutch, and for some reason this made you more likeable and less incoherent.
We do share some sentiments about this sometimes vile industry, but im just a player, you still seem to be a little more than that...

And i mean, i still went ahead and talked to you after the title of your p.m. was 'twat' and you called me an idiot above :p
Which hopefully conveys that although it may have looked like i was out for blood - i totally am not.

Let's call it a day, and perhaps my words in the PM made any sense, in the end if you have desires/make effort to build up some sort of online presence, with any financial gain, this is the stuff you get to deal with. Which is why it's so important to check everything you post, before you post it.
 
I can see why you removed a bunch of it, but the first post also had a valid answer to a valid question, which was quoted in it.....
Sorry for the 'drama' anyways
I know - I saw that. Please go ahead and post in the original thread with that response.
 
I disagree.



Promise, I've not clicked the video to play it yet, typed this first, however I'm guessing that is the Monty Python "I came here for an argument" sketch.

Going back now to see if I am right, either way its brought back a huge childhood memory when I had an audio cassette with that sketch and many others on it that proper made me laugh, comedy how its meant to be, not the trash we get served with nowadays.
 
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I don't

The Shining book is much better than the film, more than 1/2 missing in the film

No it isn't

Yes it Is

Are you arguing with Paul or yourself Jon?

Not sure but I am defo talking to myself


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Well i had to say that as i don't read books not got the patience.

Think last book i read was a famous five one at Primary School. Or was it last month who knows.
 

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