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WOW, Just WOW,

There's an awful lot of assumptions and insinuations from Supababe, Greylady and as for your post Colinsunderland. accusation and an insult.

Funny how bullying was mentioned, Like a pack of wolves. circling.

Playford caused his own downfall, using the C word and abusing members of ones family, that seems to be ok with you lot.

And that was less than 30 mins since his last ban finished after abusing another member.

Real classy clique, glad I'm not a member
 
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OK, my 2pence worth. I know I'm a 'newbie' member but I've been a lurker for years.

I see both sides, and both sides have faults. Long before I noticed Playford's wonderful way with words, I noticed Gaz's ability to speak down to people. I'm sorry Gaz, I know this might just be your style, but you're rather blunt, to the point and sometimes condescending. I've seen instances where you've spoken to people in a way where you'd have got my back up had it been me you'd spoken to like that.

BUT

On the other hand, Playford was completely out of order for the way he reacted. Sometimes keeping your cool and putting your rebuttle across a bit more succinctly is much more effective. Unfortunately he went for the throat. Even if someone has a valid point, if they react like Playford did, they will likely get penalised.
 
Gaz, just to be clear I'm not attempting to denigrate you. I'm just attempting to balance things from both perspectives. I personally have no issues with you at all. I appreciate that people have different posting styles :thumbsup:

(just don't be too shocked when some people take offence!)
 
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Gaz, just to be clear I'm not attempting to denigrate you. I'm just attempting to balance things from both perspectives. I personally have no issues with you at all. I appreciate that people have different posting styles :thumbsup:

(just don't be too shocked when some people take offence!)

Nah your fine.



Bryan sent me a message in regards to Playford.

This was my reply. Not heard nothing since.

Hi Bryan

If I'm honest, the fact he brought my wife into the abuse, no apology would ever suffice.

But at the end of the day, it's your house and I don't want to leave you stuck in the middle.

I'm guessing you have or will have words with him in regards to this and other personal attacks.

I do agree with you that he should make a public apology to the forum.

I had messages from people that were quite shocked at his post and relieved he had been banned.

Anyway, as I said, will leave it with you. It doesn't really bother me either way as long as it doesn't happen to anyone again.

Cheers

Gaz.

I think I have been fair considering, but the clique seem to have made their own minds up.
 
Nah your fine.



Bryan sent me a message in regards to Playford.

This was my reply. Not heard nothing since.

Hi Bryan

If I'm honest, the fact he brought my wife into the abuse, no apology would ever suffice.

But at the end of the day, it's your house and I don't want to leave you stuck in the middle.

I'm guessing you have or will have words with him in regards to this and other personal attacks.

I do agree with you that he should make a public apology to the forum.

I had messages from people that were quite shocked at his post and relieved he had been banned.

Anyway, as I said, will leave it with you. It doesn't really bother me either way as long as it doesn't happen to anyone again.

Cheers

Gaz.

I think I have been fair considering, but the clique seem to have made their own minds up.

Isn’t the main differance here if his insults based on truth? I.e he brought your wife into it if your wife had just left you or something similar. Otherwise its just a vague, unfocused attack on your masulinity and nothing more.

Maybe be a bit more magnanimous, and take on board the other comments numerous others have taken on your previous posts (which are based on truth).
 
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Isn’t the main differance here if his insults based on truth? I.e he brought your wife into it if your wife had just left you or something similar. Otherwise its just a vague, unfocused attack on your masulinity and nothing more.

Maybe be a bit more magnanimous, and take on board the other comments numerous other have taken on your previous posts (which are based on truth).

Why would I be magnanimous after his tirade,

Jeez, shall we also forget the C word and the list of other derogatory comments. You can't justify Playfords repeated actions.

Playford being banned is down to him. not me.

He had only been back 30mins from a 7 day ban for insulting someone else. Guess that's my fault as well?.
 
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Why would I be magnanimous after his tirade,

Jeez, shall we also forget the C word and the list of other derogatory comments. You can't justify Playfords repeated actions.

Playford being banned is down to him. not me.

He had only been back 30mins from a 7 day ban for insulting someone else. Guess that's my fault as well?.

You stated playford being banned is down to him and so it is yet you then follow thru with "he'd only been back 30 mins " ETC for god sake man leave it where it is and stop looking the sympathy vote..

It's done finished endex move on
 
My take on this.

For once Gaz never posted anything to get the response he received from Playford . Notice the for once lol as Gaz has a way of baiting people at times.

As for Playford yes it was a bad response. But several of his posts on many subjects can be classed as extreme . But he just has strong views but so do other members and the odd Mod so can't ban him for that.

So taking a look from Management perspective. We have a member who was back from a ban for very short time and got himself banned right away. So guessing Bryan is in an awkward place as he is trying to do what is best for his forum.

Guess it all comes down to that C word again. Yes i know some find it most offensive word out. But is it anymore offensive than some of the " political " views on here. Is it any more offensive than the word rape and raping which gets used daily to describe slots.

I am just one of those people that really do not see how anything wrote on here could cause that much trauma and upset people that much. It is an adult forum tho at times you would not believe it. But seriously i do not see the need for bans because someone upsets another member. That was the case it would be an empty forum as there are a few that are very easily offended.

Don't like someone ignore them. Argue your point if you wish but no need to get abusive . Got to admit been a few times i would like to say what i really think about some things but better to just not do it lol.
 
How am I looking for the sympathy vote?..

I only came back to the thread because of Supa/Grey/Colins comments.

And I posted my reply to Bryan. As I said to Bryan I couldn't careless if he comes back or not, which I don't.

Don't affect me one way or the other. I posted to show it was not me stopping him from returning.

And the 30 mins comment was because people were blaming me for his ban, neglecting his previous. If you can only conduct yourself in a proper manner for 30mins after a ban, says a lot.
 
It’s all down to personal opinion in what we find acceptable or unacceptable. As adults we should have learnt over the years a certain amount of etiquette and decorum and apply it at all times.

To a certain degree it will depend on the circles you mix in as to where the line is and within those circles you judge what is acceptable or unacceptable.

When I am ‘with the lads’ sure I mix it up like everyone else does and within that group it’s acceptable but if I am in company I am not familiar with then a different etiquette is required.

Given the fact that most members have never met face to face and that this forum is open to all (who behave) then there has to be a certain level of respect and decorum.

We all know the rules and if you post things outside the boundaries you know what to expect.

We all say things in the heat of the moment but this is slightly different as in you actually have to type it and read it (maybe some don’t) before you post it. Which would give most people time to reflect and change their mind.

I often see heated debates on here and think if those people actually met face to face they might like each other we only have words on a screen to judge by and I think most people run deeper than that.

One thing I find intriguing when it comes to language when venting our anger is that if we write the word in full we get gasps from the balcony but if we write #*^% it’s ok even though everyone knows what we mean. I am guilty of that one myself (not with majorly offensive words). Why? I have observed other posts and made a judgment that this generally seems acceptable. If it wasn’t I wouldn’t do it.
 
WOW, Just WOW,

There's an awful lot of assumptions and insinuations from Supababe, Greylady and as for your post Colinsunderland. accusation and an insult.

Funny how bullying was mentioned, Like a pack of wolves. circling.

Playford caused his own downfall, using the C word and abusing members of ones family, that seems to be ok with you lot.

And that was less than 30 mins since his last ban finished after abusing another member.

Real classy clique, glad I'm not a member

Last I am going to say on the matter!

You talk about Playford not learning but pot and kettle spring to mind. I have been on the receiving end of your abrasive, condescending and sharp tongue but remained polite, that is just me, I don't use expletives to express myself in reality so why would I on here? That was the end of it and I watched you move onto someone new as you have many times and when you get a reaction you dig a little deeper, someone was always going to retaliate and you are not totally blameless.

As to a clique, so people who have agreeing opinions have now become a clique and are being likened to 'a pack of wolves, circling' kind of says it all as to your mentality - poor me!
 
I’m sorry but I’m not sure how having people I like, respect, enjoy the company of, and in some strange way, ‘care about’
Could ever be constituted as a ‘clique’.

I come to the forum to catch up on gambling stuff, read the latest threads and answer/help to posters in as positive way as possible.
Other than my sulks about GAG, I don’t ever recall being argumentative, disrespectful or negative to anyone, least of all you Gaz. Feel free to point out any of my posts that you think aren’t like that.

At the end of the day, I just want folk to get along and I want my friend back.

And for the record, some of the ‘clique’ had already messaged Playford to tell off about his post prior to his ban.
 
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