The last fake streamer thread ever needed.

[goatwack]

Nothing new here really, story's as old as time itself.....competitors discrediting the competition with vague accusations, and tarnish their brand regardless.

That paves the way for the 'super-streamers' to spin away at scrotum-popping £20-50 spins and sew up the market

Especially with all this uncertainty around the medium, expect them all to be at it soon. Before they'll inevitably cannibalize each other

 

[dunover]

Nothing new here really, story's as old as time itself.....competitors discrediting the competition with vague accusations, and tarnish their brand regardless.

That paves the way for the 'super-streamers' to spin away at scrotum-popping £20-50 spins and sew up the market

Especially with all this uncertainty around the medium, expect them all to be at it soon. Before they'll inevitably cannibalize each other

Well I'm very big target for accusations because many of my videos ARE demo money and it's hard for some to tell when it's real and when it isn't as a result IF they don't know my channel. I have had no end of comments when making preview videos 'scamming ***t, it's fake money' or 'why don't you play for real' etc. Often other subscribers will put them right and tell them if I don't myself, that the slot in question isn't even live so it cannot be played for real.

In fact, reading what I've just typed there it further cements my decision to only have review and guide content in demo form from hereon in. It's pretty much making a rod for own back mixing the two.

 

[CasinoNinja]

A flux of fake streamers are probably a thing as there is soo much money to make from it, so they want a bit of the cake from real steamers.

Was just in Casino Daddy's chat and someone commented that their company went from 2 mill sek profit to 42 mill after they started streaming. That's roughly about £4 million pounds!

They are a machine though, nearly a 24/7 stream

 

[Siohmy]

I’ve pretty much given up with bothering with watching online slot vids. Unsubscribed to most now. Long gone are the days of realistic bet levels and honest content. Difficult to get that excited for someone hitting wins effectively as a job for plugging casinos. I prefer seeing live footage as, if nothing else, it is likely more legit plus you get footage like that woman playing next to SDGuy who hits $12500 off a 75c bet on Walking Dead 2. Spectacular hit and a genuine reaction of disbelief at what is happening in front of her.

 

[colinsunderland]

Well done to casumo for a decent approach to RG
I'll not comment on the rest of the video, but wow at the loss, but if you can afford it then fair enough.

 

[slotmaster]

I’ve pretty much given up with bothering with watching online slot vids. Unsubscribed to most now. Long gone are the days of realistic bet levels and honest content. Difficult to get that excited for someone hitting wins effectively as a job for plugging casinos. I prefer seeing live footage as, if nothing else, it is likely more legit plus you get footage like that woman playing next to SDGuy who hits $12500 off a 75c bet on Walking Dead 2. Spectacular hit and a genuine reaction of disbelief at what is happening in front of her.

I was thinking and somewhat working on the last week of streaming again, but more of slots show podcast style and yes mostly under $1.00 bets. So far 1st episode I am thinking of doing the puzzle/scratchcard slots like contact, Jammin Jars, gemix, tahiti gold etc etc. Showing the newest releases and maybe have a viewer pick segment as well.


Oh and yes I have watched that sdguy video multiple times as I play that slot at the live casino,lol.

 

[shaltar]

So far 1st episode I am thinking of doing the puzzle/scratchcard slots like contact, Jammin Jars, gemix, tahiti gold etc etc. Showing the newest releases and maybe have a viewer pick segment as well.

Let us know when you do it I will try to catch up missed your stream mate!

 

[dunover]

Well done to casumo for a decent approach to RG
I'll not comment on the rest of the video, but wow at the loss, but if you can afford it then fair enough.

Well done to Casumo for making a RG contact with the player.

Not so well done for associating their brand with ridiculous gambling like this, especially as those losses were more than those of that woman recently mentioned in the Guardian who did it there and LeoV combined.
I can see why people troll those channels as it is likely deemed disrespectful by many of them, especially when they may be struggling to make ends meet themselves.

Yes, some is rich, some is poor, that's the way the world is (sorry Joe Strummer!) but really???

 

[colinsunderland]

Well done to Casumo for making a RG contact with the player.

Not so well done for associating their brand with ridiculous gambling like this, especially as those losses were more than those of that woman recently mentioned in the Guardian who did it there and LeoV combined.
I can see why people troll those channels as it is likely deemed disrespectful by many of them, especially when they may be struggling to make ends meet themselves.

Yes, some is rich, some is poor, that's the way the world is (sorry Joe Strummer!) but really???

Thats why I didn't comment on the rest. As far as I'm aware he didn't stream that £125k loss or anything, so wasn't promoting them while doing it, but he's still over a quarter of a mill in profit, so is it really a loss?
If I stick £50 in, get it up to £3000, then lose it all, its still only a £50 loss.

 

[Jono777]

Thats why I didn't comment on the rest. As far as I'm aware he didn't stream that £125k loss or anything, so wasn't promoting them while doing it, but he's still over a quarter of a mill in profit, so is it really a loss?
If I stick £50 in, get it up to £3000, then lose it all, its still only a £50 loss.

Agreed, however for the novices out there, this scenario has a knock on effect in that witnessed regularly said novices or young gamblers lose the value of money.

Yes, only £50 lost but to blow 3K which (yes lot of if's) could be pocketed and then try and soften the blow by saying "I'm only £50 down"

Only raising this point, not to argue lol but because I saw it time and time again on a smaller scale when working back in the day in an amusement arcade and then on a larger scale (and regularly) when I worked in a casino.

Money begins to have no value and its just numbers, that's when the real problems start IMO.

 

[Borgie]

I mean a 125k!!! makes me want to curl up and rock

 

[goatwack]

It's obscene is what it is

I'll join you in the other corner of the room, rocking in the foetal position

 

[Mr_Slot5]

It was quite scary seeing him try to justify a 125k loss as 'responsible for him'. 125k is 125k- a shit ton of money and a life changing amount for most.

It also came across like he has a 'system' for beating the slots. He said he seldom loses. If it was such a sure money maker, surely everyone would be at the reel king. Just seems he's at real risk of losing everything eventually.

Plenty of red flags in that video, including seeing beating the machine as a 'personal mission'.

 

[Borgie]

It was quite scary seeing him try to justify a 125k loss as 'responsible for him'. 125k is 125k- a shit ton of money and a life changing amount for most.

It also came across like he has a 'system' for beating the slots. He said he seldom loses. If it was such a sure money maker, surely everyone would be at the reel king. Just seems he's at real risk of losing everything eventually.

I agree. He seems convinced he's got some sort of hold over thst slot and will win if he keeps going. If he was a quarter of a million in profit at a rate of 125k loss a session it will be gone in a blink .

 

[colinsunderland]

Agreed, however for the novices out there, this scenario has a knock on effect in that witnessed regularly said novices or young gamblers lose the value of money.

Yes, only £50 lost but to blow 3K which (yes lot of if's) could be pocketed and then try and soften the blow by saying "I'm only £50 down"

Only raising this point, not to argue lol but because I saw it time and time again on a smaller scale when working back in the day in an amusement arcade and then on a larger scale (and regularly) when I worked in a casino.

Money begins to have no value and its just numbers, that's when the real problems start IMO.

I agree with everything you say, but ultimately, if you deposit £50 and come away with zero you have lost £50.
If you deposit £50, get up to £3k and then withdraw £2005 you think you have won £2k not lost £1k. Winnings are only winnings when you walk away with it. I cashed out a bet last year for £2000 that would have landed £14k if I had let it run, bit sick I didn't but never thought I had lost £12k, just that I won £1989 (was a £1 yankee). I do agree with you, its just playing with words really isn't it.
I think it does depend on how much money he has, £125k to us seems like a fortune, you can buy a 3 bed house up here in a decent area and have change for that sort of money, but if he's got £30 mill in the bank for example, and he already owns a nice house, car etc, then it probably isn't much to him.

 

[goatwack]

I think that theory gets stretched the higher the amount, i.e got up to £500, lost it, but only lost £20 in the end.

When you're going into the realm of £125K cashable money, then it's most certainly lost, and no amount of kidding myself that I lost £50 would paper over that I'm afraid!

 

[paul7388]

Having watched that video i would imagine his business partner mus be a bit pissed off.

How anyone can try and justify losing that £125k as they are still up 250k amazes me.

To me depositing that sort of money in a day chasing a win is crazy and shows someone has lost control of their gambling totally.

Another 2 days like that then all profit has been lost. Several more days and well we all know how it would end.

And i don't actually think it was good of Casumo to email after about RG as it was much more than he usually spends. I think the time to contact him would have been during the session when he was going crazy with deposits.

 

[colinsunderland]

I think that theory gets stretched the higher the amount, i.e got up to £500, lost it, but only lost £20 in the end.

When you're going into the realm of £125K cashable money, then it's most certainly lost, and no amount of kidding myself that I lost £50 would paper over that I'm afraid!

But the amount is relative to what you are worth surely? If I was an oil baron with £50 billion in the bank, the interest I earnt per day would probably pay for that session twice over. I certainly wouldn't think twice about it. I know someone on my forum would put £100k on a horse at times, and regularly have £10k bets, but he could afford it, I don't know what he was worth but know he had houses in london worth about £100 million, and properties abroad, plus about 5 supercars, so I presume £10k to him was like us putting a tenner on.

 

[goatwack]

But the amount is relative to what you are worth surely? If I was an oil baron with £50 billion in the bank, the interest I earnt per day would probably pay for that session twice over. I certainly wouldn't think twice about it. I know someone on my forum would put £100k on a horse at times, and regularly have £10k bets, but he could afford it, I don't know what he was worth but know he had houses in london worth about £100 million, and properties abroad, plus about 5 supercars, so I presume £10k to him was like us putting a tenner on.

Yes I agree it's relative, but I don't see these streamers' videos aimed at highrollers exclusively, but everyday Joe Shmoes. An oil tycoon losing 125K elicits a shrug of the shoulders, but making it appear attainable for regular viewers is dangerous stuff, and being dismissive of high amounts isn't what I'd call RG. I'd call it reckless and irresponsible.

But that's for another show

 

[colinsunderland]

Yes I agree it's relative, but I don't see these streamers' videos aimed at highrollers exclusively, but everyday Joe Shmoes. An oil tycoon losing 125K elicits a shrug of the shoulders, but making it appear attainable for regular viewers is dangerous stuff, and being dismissive of high amounts isn't what I'd call RG. I'd call it reckless and irresponsible.

But that's for another show

I don't disagree with you, and its actually quite rare I watch youtube videos and suchlike, I think this one popped up as I had watched another one of his a couple of weeks ago. I don't think he was dismissive of it though, I thought he was quite clear in saying not to chase losses and playing the amounts he did would be extremely irresponsible for some people, and to play within your limits. Unlike certain streamers I've seen snippets of!

 

[sufferinsilence]

He's up way more than 250k in total, he also plays Reel King at Videoslots and Grosvenor if I recall correctly. He's bought a house on the winnings of both Reel King and Wild Swarm. This was the end of a cycle where he made a load of money and the 125k loss still leaves him the same amount up. Now he'll start again on lower bets and try to build up a pot to attempt the highroll again. If you have the bankroll I guess this is responsible, but not for most of us who can deposit €100 a week or month.

I don't even want to know how much they make with affilliation, based on the amount of YT subscribers and viewers he has that must be quite a bit, and that's where his business venture with his partner is btw because the partner doesn't participate in the deposits or winnings from Reel King or other slots stuff like Bandit explained.

 

[Bloatgoat]

I thought of streaming, but by the looks of other streamers, the majority of of people who watch are just addicts and it tends to keep eachother alive or some shit. There's nothing good about streaming except for some entertainment value. At the end of the day it's all about affiliate signups, and the losses of affiliates can lead up to 60% at some casino refferal programs. 60% of 1000 quid that someone dumps in and loses, is alot. Do that times 200 to 2000 if your a huge streamer and voila, see the revenue modelling that's going on.

I had 3 very good runs in 3 days, boosted up to 65k, some of 'm woud'nt believe me, but i showed pretty much everything. It's a once in a lifetime 'run' if you know what i mean and you have to have patience in combination with stamina, able to keep up playing for 8 straight hours or so. It'll exhaust you, i tell you that. If you play long enough, you start to see certain patterns, the wagering, the amount of buys you have to take before it starts to take off, and so on. Bankroll is the key. Dont be like 500 in and put 2 250 buys in there.

Anyway; The rock and roller lad is pretty much cool. Yes he shows some signs of an addiction, but he has balls, and he streams real wins losses.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

I stopped watching the streamer in the video posted because I felt that his stakes were way too high for me as a normal punter to even relate to. If anybody can afford to lose thousands of pounds then that's fine but I watch streamers to both get a look at slots I wouldn't normally play myself or haven't done yet and also to see them play at stakes just a little bit higher than myself,say £5-£10 maximum if they've had a good win. I don't see the point in spinning at more than £5 personally as this is the max on most deposit bonuses and I would never even dream of spending more myself. If I had thousands in spare cash though,I wouldn't be spending it on slots,but that's for each person to decide.

 

[Halvor]

I had 3 very good runs in 3 days, boosted up to 65k, some of 'm woud'nt believe me, but i showed pretty much everything. It's a once in a lifetime 'run' if you know what i mean and you have to have patience in combination with stamina, able to keep up playing for 8 straight hours or so. It'll exhaust you, i tell you that. If you play long enough, you start to see certain patterns, the wagering, the amount of buys you have to take before it starts to take off, and so on. Bankroll is the key. Dont be like 500 in and put 2 250 buys in there.

I appreciate that you do not enjoy streamers, and that's fully up to you. But once again please understand that statements such as this, where you somehow feel and voice that you can predict the outcome of a gambling session. Is far more dangerous and concerning that anyone that enjoy watching streams. The games are random, there are no pattern to when you will or will not win.

Multiple members on this forum work within the industry and if there were any predictable patterns or ways to know when we were about to win, we would all be minted.

 

[mack341]

This doesn't relate to fake streamers but the bandit's recent vid was very good, a titanic up and down struggle and with no reel king thank goodness. At one point he was trapped on that wild swarm game doing £100 spins waiting for the swarm to happen, I won't spoil it for anyone who hasn't watched it though.