the Dark Knight Rises video slot

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Recently I played the new Dark Knight Rises video slot and I'm still impressed by the amazing graphics. I think it's one of the best video slots available at the moment. What do you guys think? Is it really that great or is it just me?
 

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Recently I played the new Dark Knight Rises video slot and I'm still impressed by the amazing graphics. I think it's one of the best video slots available at the moment. What do you guys think? Is it really that great or is it just me?

It's just you :D

Nah seriously, everything is subjective. It looks nice I agree. Here's a discussion on it...feel free to join in:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/when-is-the-next-batman-slot-being-released.58526/
 

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i would recon u also to read this....

I've told you before to not post about a PAB you have in progress. This is no different because you are pressing your complaint on the forum, however indirectly. Your choice has been to ignore my repeated advice to you on this so PAB cancelled.

If you ever want to use the PAB service again you will have to begin by reading the FAQ (again!), writing a letter to us explaining how you have read and understood the FAQ particularly the part about not posting about an active PAB, how you assure us you will respect that rule, and could we please accept your apology for previously wasting our time. If you cannot or will not respect our PAB rules then the service will not be available to you, simple as that.

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I've told you before to not post about a PAB you have in progress. This is no different because you are pressing your complaint on the forum, however indirectly. Your choice has been to ignore my repeated advice to you on this so PAB cancelled.

If you ever want to use the PAB service again you will have to begin by reading the FAQ (again!), writing a letter to us explaining how you have read and understood the FAQ particularly the part about not posting about an active PAB, how you assure us you will respect that rule, and could we please accept your apology for previously wasting our time. If you cannot or will not respect our PAB rules then the service will not be available to you, simple as that.

And before you say "please excuse, not speak good English" again I suggest you look back over our email correspondence of the last few months and count the number of times I've told you to find someone -- not Google Translate -- to help you write and understand English if you want to use our services. If you can't be bothered to do that then I can't be bothered to help you with your issues.
my apologlise .. i was just trying to be helpfull i hope u dont cancel my PAB becos of this ... sorry again.
 

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my apologlise .. i was just trying to be helpfull i hope u dont cancel my PAB becos of this ... sorry again.

You are not being helpful. You are trying to spoil what would have been a very useful discussion.

I really like this slot. Excellent graphics and plenty of er fights which boosts the number of spins. Guys, I wonder what you choose in the feature eg. Extra Wild blast, rolling reels or what. The most spins I had accumulated is 39. After that you either go on for another 200 spins without anything more or you simply hit the feature. Furthermore, 2x is the maximum I got though its still early days for me.
 

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depends for me. If I'm low, I take the rolling reels for some kind of return or the Batman wild. If I've a balance to fall back on, I take the Bane stacked - pretty much never take the Batman split wilds feature. Batman v Bane, I take the side with the highest mult, if same mult and spins, it's a coin flip.
I think my highest X has been 3
 

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Something must be wrong

I had only played this slot a couple of times so yesterday I thought I'd give it a shot in Demo. I fired it up on betat casino. I kept opening and closing the game to see if I could start with a better amount of spins or multiplier. Sometimes it was 10x1 and others it was 20x1, 25x2 etc. Eventually the game opened with the batman feature starting at 40x4 and the previous bet being 7.50 which seems to be the default bet when opening it up in demo mode. I never play at that stake so I dropped it down to my usual 60p play. The feature eventually triggered at 58x5 after a couple of fight modes. Being in demo mode the heat seeking wild feature was unlocked so I gave it a shot having never played it before.The result was £2914, over 4800x stake!! However, i find this hard to believe. I got lots of 5oak wins but 4800x stake, surely not! Can anyone explain this? With the previous bet being 7.50 before I changed to 60p has the game gone on to play the feature at 7.50 play even though I was playing at 60p. I tried again after as i was convinced something was wrong. Same story though, £1100 off 48x3 at 60p play. This was again after reducing the stake from 7.50 to 60p and carrying on to trigger the feature.
 

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I had only played this slot a couple of times so yesterday I thought I'd give it a shot in Demo. I fired it up on betat casino. I kept opening and closing the game to see if I could start with a better amount of spins or multiplier. Sometimes it was 10x1 and others it was 20x1, 25x2 etc. Eventually the game opened with the batman feature starting at 40x4 and the previous bet being 7.50 which seems to be the default bet when opening it up in demo mode. I never play at that stake so I dropped it down to my usual 60p play. The feature eventually triggered at 58x5 after a couple of fight modes. Being in demo mode the heat seeking wild feature was unlocked so I gave it a shot having never played it before.The result was £2914, over 4800x stake!! However, i find this hard to believe. I got lots of 5oak wins but 4800x stake, surely not! Can anyone explain this? With the previous bet being 7.50 before I changed to 60p has the game gone on to play the feature at 7.50 play even though I was playing at 60p. I tried again after as i was convinced something was wrong. Same story though, £1100 off 48x3 at 60p play. This was again after reducing the stake from 7.50 to 60p and carrying on to trigger the feature.

I think this slot is non-random. It should be banned...seriously.

How else can you explain that it doesn't average your bet in free spins?
Try playing first with 60p and then switching over to 7.5 and see if you get a 4800xstake then.

Also this means that slot might be set not to trigger 3 scatters, and drain a certain amount of money. To me this is the worst and dogdiest MG slot, hope othersofts don't be up this habbit of creating nonrandom slots.
 

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So far, there's nothing to say the slot isnt random. It may just be a case of averaging bets. Or not. LOL.
3Dice ching-ching averages the win-payout based on the bets placed during the game before triggering. I don't doubt the spins are random though.


I say there is. If you change your bet size, in free spins you will be paid according to your current bet size (not averaged one).

If the game was fully random, this type of behavior would be unsustainable. Advantage players would collect spins and multipliers on a 0.3 spins and then switch to 7.5
Others would spend 100s just to lower bet size and get few pennies in return for their effort.

So the only explanation is that game is self-balancing, ergo not random :)
 

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Not necessarily. There's no guarantee the bonus will trigger in any short order when maxing out the bet..you could still drop hundreds before ever seeing the bonus trigger and get a FS result far lower than the monies you put in trying to trigger it.
Knowing there's no guarantee on your result, if the FS will trigger before changing bet size or after, I agree it's self-balancing...;) ergo, that doesnt mean it's no longer random.
 

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It doesn't matter whether or not you hit free spins shortly after raising bets.
In the long run it will give you an advantage.

Also, hitting FS on a small bet, before getting the chance to collect spins and multipliers, will only delay the inevitable.
Sooner or later you will hit a good run of upgrades, before switching to bigger bets.

You could play thousands of spins at min bet before switching, and on average it will cost you next to nothing.
Perhaps the cost of 5-10 spins at max bet?

It may be self balancing, but only for a couple of sessions.
In the long run; the history of your account, or the entire player base, it would end up costing the casino a tremendous amount of money.

So IMOP, it can not be random.


Freddy
 

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It doesn't matter whether or not you hit free spins shortly after raising bets.
In the long run it will give you an advantage.

Also, hitting FS on a small bet, before getting the chance to collect spins and multipliers, will only delay the inevitable.
Sooner or later you will hit a good run of upgrades, before switching to bigger bets.

You could play thousands of spins at min bet before switching, and on average it will cost you next to nothing.
Perhaps the cost of 5-10 spins at max bet?

It may be self balancing, but only for a couple of sessions.
In the long run; the history of your account, or the entire player base, it would end up costing the casino a tremendous amount of money.

So IMOP, it can not be random.


Freddy

But when do you switch bets? At 2x, 3x, 5X? How many spins? 25, 30, 50? Anywhere in there it could trigger. There's no point where upping the ante is apparent.
And let's say you go max at a high mult, high free spins because you're comfortable with the fs total mult and number - you could still go through several deposits and get a poor return before triggering it. Ok, so you go at it again...and it triggers early..ok, so you go it again..high, mult, high spins, max it out..and get a poor return again. Unless youve an unlimited bankroill, how do you guarantee youd recoup? Isn't that rather like martingale - unless youve an unlimited bankroll and unlimited bet, you could go bankrupt very fast. And maybe you finally do recoup...as a hundred other players didnt, balancing it out.
As I said, I really don't know if spins compensate or not. I just don't see why they'd need to.
 

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But when do you switch bets? At 2x, 3x, 5X? How many spins? 25, 30, 50? Anywhere in there it could trigger. There's no point where upping the ante is apparent.
And let's say you go max at a high mult, high free spins because you're comfortable with the fs total mult and number - you could still go through several deposits and get a poor return before triggering it. Ok, so you go at it again...and it triggers early..ok, so you go it again..high, mult, high spins, max it out..and get a poor return again. Unless youve an unlimited bankroill, how do you guarantee youd recoup? Isn't that rather like martingale - unless youve an unlimited bankroll and unlimited bet, you could go bankrupt very fast. And maybe you finally do recoup...as a hundred other players didnt, balancing it out.
As I said, I really don't know if spins compensate or not. I just don't see why they'd need to.


You would have to set your own goal of course. But any increase compared to the base level, would represent an advantage.

It may and probably will go wrong, at times. Of course, you should not bet beyond your means just cos' you have the advantage.
That would be similar to martingale, I agree.

The fundamental difference though, between let's say a roulette martingale system, and the above, is a positive RTP.
It would have to be - unless it's not random.


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I had 56fs with a multipler of 5x before i hit the free spins.
I checked my stats and my rtp was about 45% (900$ played and i think it was 350 won)

And then i won about 400$ with a 0.90 bet so that changed the rtp back to almost normal.
I think that if i had raised my stake to 1.5 or more id have to put in at least another 2-300$ befor getting the free spin feature.
 

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But when do you switch bets? At 2x, 3x, 5X? How many spins? 25, 30, 50? Anywhere in there it could trigger. There's no point where upping the ante is apparent.
And let's say you go max at a high mult, high free spins because you're comfortable with the fs total mult and number - you could still go through several deposits and get a poor return before triggering it. Ok, so you go at it again...and it triggers early..ok, so you go it again..high, mult, high spins, max it out..and get a poor return again. Unless youve an unlimited bankroill, how do you guarantee youd recoup? Isn't that rather like martingale - unless youve an unlimited bankroll and unlimited bet, you could go bankrupt very fast. And maybe you finally do recoup...as a hundred other players didnt, balancing it out.
As I said, I really don't know if spins compensate or not. I just don't see why they'd need to.

I'm sure a skilled AP could easily determine the -break even- point after which RPT goes above 100%. This could be 20 spins with 1x or even less. Of course you would still want to wait until you get an even higher advantage. If you get scatters, you start again, as Refre mentioned it doesn't really matter since you only start playing "for real" when you switch to max bet. Playing with $0.3 is in comparison like play money.

Imagine trying to get 30 FS + 2x multiplier with 0.3 bet and then switching to 7.5 -> with a truly random slot this would mean you always start game with 30FS + 2x multiplier since, $0.3 spins don't really mean anything when compared to $7.5. This would give you a crazy advantage.
 

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Today I got it to 54 free spins and 4 x pay. Kept it going at the min 30cent bet. Finally hit it after 300spins and it paid 155. But the next 100 spins hit the bonus three more times but non paid more than 10. Still it is a very volitile game
 

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I had 56fs with a multipler of 5x before i hit the free spins.
I checked my stats and my rtp was about 45% (900$ played and i think it was 350 won)

And then i won about 400$ with a 0.90 bet so that changed the rtp back to almost normal.
I think that if i had raised my stake to 1.5 or more id have to put in at least another 2-300$ befor getting the free spin feature.

nah, no way to know - once you changed the stake, that miniscule pause between changing the bet, would have changed the entire outcome of the following spins - could have triggered in one spin :D
 

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Theres something very gimped about the 'extra wild blast' feature on this slot, whichever character you pick for the extra wild barely shows up at all on the reels throughout the feature.. I've tried all six options and its the same every time so its no co-incidence.. it seems that some spots on the reels are mapped to a certain symbol depending which you choose for the extra wild, what a rip off i say ...
 

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Theres something very gimped about the 'extra wild blast' feature on this slot, whichever character you pick for the extra wild barely shows up at all on the reels throughout the feature.. I've tried all six options and its the same every time so its no co-incidence.. it seems that some spots on the reels are mapped to a certain symbol depending which you choose for the extra wild, what a rip off i say ...

I noticed the very same thing. I frequently choose the 'extra wild' option in the hope of getting 5 wilds but I never got more than 3 in hundreds of spins.
 

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After the update the freespins are valuated by the average bet size you had when collecting the freespins.
Does this mean the game calculates your average bet size from all the spins before the feature, or only from the spins that riggered the battle feature?
If it is the later, this is really good news. If one have collected 35 freespins with 5x multiplier with 3€ bet size and is running out of balance, can change to 0,3€ bet and trigger the feature before running out of money.
 

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I noticed the very same thing. I frequently choose the 'extra wild' option in the hope of getting 5 wilds but I never got more than 3 in hundreds of spins.

I absolutely felt the same every time. You can choose whatever symbol you want, interestingly always the other symbols show up 3-5 times all the time then during the feature.... Its probably predefined....
 

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I haven't played this slot much yet. I believe I've experienced three bonus rounds so far during one session, but I would like to add that I've basically experienced the same.

The extra wild symbol you could choose wasn't anywhere to be seen all of a sudden. I just thought I was being unlucky as usual.:rolleyes:

But then again it's a bit the same like DOA. During free spins rounds It's pretty much a miracle for me if i see a couple of wilds.
 
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