Question Slots Systems Do They Work???

I would just like to add that with bonuses, it is quite a different story IMO. If a player is very patient, careful and disciplined, then there are certain ways... And, IMO, it need not only be the - now probably gone forever - 100 % match bonuses with 15-20xWR.
Bonuses are quite a complex issue mathematically; Enzo once explained it. The 5 % edge of slots is not omnipotent when it comes to certain bonuses; that's why casinos create elaborate terms and conditions for bonuses in order not to be brought to bankruptcy.
Also, as KasinoKing pointed out many times, bonuses provide structure to one's playing, provide a clear exit point and IMO can help a player not to lose his cool and "go on a tilt". However, this is not easy; psychologically almost impossible in my experience :oops:; I think that's why casinos are not going out of business any time soon in spite of many good bonuses out there.
I find myself playing with bonuses more and more. IMO, there is no reason why not to play with reasonable bonuses: a) either you are mainly after entertainment - then a bonus extends your play; b) if a player is seriously intent on making a profit from playing, then a bonus is the BEST CHANCE (it is still a gamble) of achieving it.

Oh yes. There are systems when it comes to bonuses....but it is a very different animal to a slot system itself.

Good points though.
 
With very next £400 deposit, note date & time bottom right:p

You've just had a standard forced 500x feature. WHERE ARE THE 'AFTERS' VWM???? If that was any kind of streak you would have had at least another 2.5k after that, possible more if the 'mega' streak..........:rolleyes:
 
You've just had a standard forced 500x feature. WHERE ARE THE 'AFTERS' VWM???? If that was any kind of streak you would have had at least another 2.5k after that, possible more if the 'mega' streak..........:rolleyes:

It's been chipped. I would have needed parrots after the ships, but instead I just got a run of 7s and glasses of ale. It clearly makes all the difference.

Still, it's a nice overall profit, £2400 in and £7000 out.
 
It's been chipped. I would have needed parrots after the ships, but instead I just got a run of 7s and glasses of ale. It clearly makes all the difference.

Still, it's a nice overall profit, £2400 in and £7000 out.

Its been chipped. LOL.

I absolutely KNEW that's exactly what you'd say...its the perfect defence against having to say "I was wrong".

Really disappointed Vinyl. I thought you were a man of your word.

(Oh and the overall profit didn't come from just TI so that's another pie-filler)
 
Its been chipped. LOL.

I absolutely KNEW that's exactly what you'd say...its the perfect defence against having to say "I was wrong".

Really disappointed Vinyl. I thought you were a man of your word.

(Oh and the overall profit didn't come from just TI so that's another pie-filler)


I was wrong about this being a rare megastreak yes, but I was RIGHT in that the "tells" or patterns during play on these AWPs can predict in part the results of further play. I STILL got a jackpot feature payout from "forcing" a fraction of the payout into the machine. The machine took a total of £1000, and paid out £5400 off the feature. It's not a straight forward return of 95% of what is put in, which would be a no possible win situation long term.

If I don't see any decent "tells", I do NOT force all the way, but instead collect features until the machine plays dead, and then I start over.
 
So how do you force the machine? Do you mean by playing the feature all the way until you get caught or lose? until you get to the top?
 
I was wrong about this being a rare megastreak yes, but I was RIGHT in that the "tells" or patterns during play on these AWPs can predict in part the results of further play. I STILL got a jackpot feature payout from "forcing" a fraction of the payout into the machine. The machine took a total of £1000, and paid out £5400 off the feature. It's not a straight forward return of 95% of what is put in, which would be a no possible win situation long term.

If I don't see any decent "tells", I do NOT force all the way, but instead collect features until the machine plays dead, and then I start over.

See, you still can't just say it without making an excuse or adding a "but" or whatever to water it down. Amazing.

You're still trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes....but you forget that some of us KNOW how they work and KNOW that ANYONE can sit there and force it if they want. Just the same as anyone can sit there and play any slot til it hits. You say you "stop when you can't see the signs"....again no different from other players on other games. Who's to say the "tells" won't weren't going to start a few spins after you stopped?

You know damn well that the single jackpot pays are almost totally based on your past play, AND that the mega/gigastreaks are generated on a network level across all players. So, that means that, regardless of whether you stop, ortake features, or dangle upside down drinking green tea, the game will pay what it wants when its ready and over the long term you will LOSE....which I suspect, when all play at all casinos is included, is exactly the position you're in today. You say you're ahead at 32red due to the gigastreak, but behind at others.

I would also say that you have hit the gigastreaks about as much as one would expect to given your frequency and volume of play. Hitting them only twice in all these years actually shows that your system is a total dud without any kind of other evidence from any source. I've had 4-6000xbet wins over the years probably as much as you have, or even more (based on your statements and screenies over the years)...and all of this with NO systems or claims of mastery over the AWPs. The only reason yours look "WOW" to some people is the very high bets and wins. I.e. you spent $1000 (although originally it was $400 then it was $2400 so who knows) to win $5000, which is like me depositing $50 and cashing out $250. Most would say "big deal" to mine, but "wow" to yours. However, when we talk about our average 95% return, based on these numbers, I'm down thousands perhaps, and you're down tens of thousands or more...its the side of high rolling that the high rollers never talk about.

I was only going to make this a short post, but after thinking on it for quite a while, I've decided from this point on that I don't want to debate someone who won't admit their mistakes, won't acknowledge the points made by others, and won't appreciate that one cannot be intellectually superior (or claim to be) on every subject every time. The vast majority of members here just ask questions when they don't know, or yield to those with expertise and learn....instead of making stuff up and pretending to know more than everyone else.

I think you're a nice person Vinyl, but I'm wasting my time and energy on someone who refuses to debate, but chooses to talk "at" me rather than "with" me...it doesn't make for any meaningful debate.

You can have at it on any subject you want from now on mate. I'm done.

I'm going to spend more time doing meaningful stuff like help newbs and others who want to listen and learn, which I really enjoy.

Its been interesting Vinyl, but enough is enough. I'm also sorry if I said anything hurtful to you at any time....it was pure frustration and nothing malicious.
 
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I'm wasting my time and energy on someone who refuses to debate, but chooses to talk "at" me rather than "with" me...it doesn't make for any meaningful debate.

A quick lighthearted derail if y'all don't mind. ^ I like the above phrase, going to use it on my wife next argument :D

In summary: Play for fun when it comes to slots.
 
A quick lighthearted derail if y'all don't mind. ^ I like the above phrase, going to use it on my wife next argument :D

In summary: Play for fun when it comes to slots.

unless it's roulette, then it's martingale for the sure win to pay your rent
 
Logic

Hey I think everyone is right in their own way and systems are all about logic ie. not chasing a bonus on a "cold" slot.
Those who say just sit and push the button regardless are missing the point I think.
I tried the One Spin System which is one of the ones I mentioned I found on Slotacash.com and after 7 dead spins on 7 games I hit the 100 Free Spins Bonus on Gladiator on the first spin.
I think the logic with these simple systems is they keep you moving on from game to game without blowing your budget and that's what gives you more chance of hitting a "hot" slot and making some cash.
And as everyone should agree having fun is the name of the game is it not?
 

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