Ok I am not trying to start the old "rigged" thread, it's more of what is possible with technology?
I have been thinking about how technology could take advantage of people, specifically online casinos and their sophisticated computer programs. We see a lot of online casinos doing things they shouldnt. ie... operate in areas they shoudnt, sometimes apply silly cashout restrictions, sometimes void winnings etc... What would prevent a casino from making a small programming change to increase profit? Technology is amazing, Computer programs are amazing, and the things you can program are endless. There are very smart programmers that can take down a sophisticated Sony Playstation Network leaving them confused for weeks, there are hacks that can get through sophisticated Military defense computers. So I am sure it isnt that difficult to make minor adjustments at an online without being caught. So it kind of makes me wonder.
Greed and money are very motivational things that can make people cross a grey line. This thread is not directed to any casino, game or person, but I have seen things that make you wonder. Minor changes from time to time can increase profit significantly. Let me give a non casino example of computer programming to increase profits. I own 50 soda vending machines in busy new york city. I program the machine to not give back a quarter (.25 cents) of change every 10th transaction. I have 200 average transactions per day. That is $5 per day I took by not giving correct change. Take that by 365 days and thats $1,825 for the year, take that by the 50 machines I own in busy new york city and it equals $91,250.00 for the year. Thats a lot of money for shaving a quarter here and there. Soda's in the machine are $2.50 for the can. When I short a few people of .25 cents are they going to make a big deal?, I think not. The point? It doesnt take much to make a significant amount of money without people noticing. (I do not own vending machines)
It is a well known fact that back in the days of non computerized slots, Vegas would increase payout of slots that were placed at the front of the casino so the people walking by could see the luck. I have just recently seen a mind boggling move by a B&M Casino. They had a bank of about 20 slot machine with a car in the middle. The car is won randomally. It is not triggered by hitting a jackpot on a slot, but a simple random win on any bet (we all know randomjackpots). Well the car sat there for 2 years and finally because the car was becoming a 2 year old new car, they decided to force it to hit and guaranteed it to hit in 2 weeks. So obviously they had to go program it to hit in the next 2 weeks. The problem is that for 2 years people went and played that bank of slots for the dream to win the car that would go off randomally, and then they have to go force it to go off . ( by the way it didnt go off until the very last day of the guaranteed hit) I can tell you that this type of move is not looked at favorably by the gaming commission in the area. The gaming commission is there to regulate every single move by the casinos, every promotion and event needs to be approved by the gaming commission. I am going to inquire as to what they thought of this move. My Point? This is an example of ovious programming. I dont know if the original program to go random failed, but it worked out in the long run for the casino. They attracted people to play this machine for the chance to win the car and probably made a significant profit for 2 years, and then when they announced it to hit they probably received a half a year amount of play on the machine's in 2 weeks. Let me put it this way, they blatantly announced they were rigging the machine.
So would an online casino program a random to hit every now and then on a free chip that has a max cashout?
Would an online casino make adjustment's to specific individual's RTP?
Would they lower payout for a large depositor, or lower payout for someone winning?
Would they use shills to play at certain times, maybe when they know something is going to hit?
Would they program more smaller bets to hit rather than payout a large bet?
I am not specifically looking for answers to these questions. These are just things that have run through my mind. I did say I wanted this thread to be a discussion. The paragraphs above are listed to show that 1) I do believe anything in your wildest dreams can be programmed 2) I do also believe that there has to be casinos that manipulate certain programs to increase profit. As you can see I am using the words "I Believe" . I am not a computer programmer so I am not sure what is actually possible, nor do I have proof of anything malicious taking place.
Do you believe that "anything" can be programmed? , and would some online casinos exploit that ability?
I have been thinking about how technology could take advantage of people, specifically online casinos and their sophisticated computer programs. We see a lot of online casinos doing things they shouldnt. ie... operate in areas they shoudnt, sometimes apply silly cashout restrictions, sometimes void winnings etc... What would prevent a casino from making a small programming change to increase profit? Technology is amazing, Computer programs are amazing, and the things you can program are endless. There are very smart programmers that can take down a sophisticated Sony Playstation Network leaving them confused for weeks, there are hacks that can get through sophisticated Military defense computers. So I am sure it isnt that difficult to make minor adjustments at an online without being caught. So it kind of makes me wonder.
Greed and money are very motivational things that can make people cross a grey line. This thread is not directed to any casino, game or person, but I have seen things that make you wonder. Minor changes from time to time can increase profit significantly. Let me give a non casino example of computer programming to increase profits. I own 50 soda vending machines in busy new york city. I program the machine to not give back a quarter (.25 cents) of change every 10th transaction. I have 200 average transactions per day. That is $5 per day I took by not giving correct change. Take that by 365 days and thats $1,825 for the year, take that by the 50 machines I own in busy new york city and it equals $91,250.00 for the year. Thats a lot of money for shaving a quarter here and there. Soda's in the machine are $2.50 for the can. When I short a few people of .25 cents are they going to make a big deal?, I think not. The point? It doesnt take much to make a significant amount of money without people noticing. (I do not own vending machines)
It is a well known fact that back in the days of non computerized slots, Vegas would increase payout of slots that were placed at the front of the casino so the people walking by could see the luck. I have just recently seen a mind boggling move by a B&M Casino. They had a bank of about 20 slot machine with a car in the middle. The car is won randomally. It is not triggered by hitting a jackpot on a slot, but a simple random win on any bet (we all know randomjackpots). Well the car sat there for 2 years and finally because the car was becoming a 2 year old new car, they decided to force it to hit and guaranteed it to hit in 2 weeks. So obviously they had to go program it to hit in the next 2 weeks. The problem is that for 2 years people went and played that bank of slots for the dream to win the car that would go off randomally, and then they have to go force it to go off . ( by the way it didnt go off until the very last day of the guaranteed hit) I can tell you that this type of move is not looked at favorably by the gaming commission in the area. The gaming commission is there to regulate every single move by the casinos, every promotion and event needs to be approved by the gaming commission. I am going to inquire as to what they thought of this move. My Point? This is an example of ovious programming. I dont know if the original program to go random failed, but it worked out in the long run for the casino. They attracted people to play this machine for the chance to win the car and probably made a significant profit for 2 years, and then when they announced it to hit they probably received a half a year amount of play on the machine's in 2 weeks. Let me put it this way, they blatantly announced they were rigging the machine.
So would an online casino program a random to hit every now and then on a free chip that has a max cashout?
Would an online casino make adjustment's to specific individual's RTP?
Would they lower payout for a large depositor, or lower payout for someone winning?
Would they use shills to play at certain times, maybe when they know something is going to hit?
Would they program more smaller bets to hit rather than payout a large bet?
I am not specifically looking for answers to these questions. These are just things that have run through my mind. I did say I wanted this thread to be a discussion. The paragraphs above are listed to show that 1) I do believe anything in your wildest dreams can be programmed 2) I do also believe that there has to be casinos that manipulate certain programs to increase profit. As you can see I am using the words "I Believe" . I am not a computer programmer so I am not sure what is actually possible, nor do I have proof of anything malicious taking place.
Do you believe that "anything" can be programmed? , and would some online casinos exploit that ability?