RTG Clubworld the leader in listening to players??

silcnlayc

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Ok, I got to point out that in the last few months I have noticed the Clubworld group (sister casinos included) have had more small to medium randoms go off ...then most other RTG casinos.( have been watching a LOT but not participating too much yet)

Is Clubworld going to be the leader in retaining players with this change?? I know I have started visiting them a little more than others just to see what is happening with these randoms.. and have found that many are going off at a much lower level than they used to.

I think that maybe, they have heard the players requests??? If they continue down this path, they will most definitely be the place to play at in my opinion..

Hopefully, it is not just a glitch but a trend that they are doing...because if they continue down this path, I know where I will be returning to play again...but, got to wait and see a little more just in case it was a fluke and they spike the game wins again...


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Well that would be a good thing I agree, however they are Random Jackpots.

The casino cannot set the amount that the jackpot hits, due to the fact it is random.

IMO you will find this is just a good run of lower RJs which could (and probably has) happened elsewhere.
 

silcnlayc

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Nifty29:Well that would be a good thing I agree, however they are Random Jackpots.

The casino cannot set the amount that the jackpot hits, due to the fact it is random.
Nifty29, I understand they are "random"...just as so many said that blackjack is "random" it seems in "reality" it really isn't.

I watch the trends and all the hogwash about randomness, rtp's etc...is just that, hogwash. Think about it. If a casino wants to draw in more players, what would they do? And we know the settings can be requested to be changed so where is this randomness everyone keeps talking about when one can change the ultimate outcome of things to suit their needs...?

I really cannot believe that so many keep believing that all is really what is said...but not shown...a casino must keep a certain percnntage and this is not debated, but what is debated is the "randomness" when one can change the outcome in the long run to suit their needs. This is not random, this is purposeful.

Just my 2 cents...just like the black jack question is finally being seen for what it is...and that also was believed to be "random" when in reality, it was not, but again, just my opinion and starting to be seen by others for what that was.


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:eek:If someone doesn't believe they are getting a fair random game, then for the life of me I can't figure out why they keep on playing. :confused:
 

silcnlayc

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bb28:If someone doesn't believe they are getting a fair random game, then for the life of me I can't figure out why they keep on playing.
Yes, bb28, I and many others I believe have heard you already...and I believe that I, myself have said, I "pop" in and out and do NOT play much at all, but just watch.

So, I just wanted to say....thank you for repeating yourself for the nth time..I guess I did forget your repeated
bb28:If someone doesn't believe they are getting a fair random game, then for the life of me I can't figure out why they keep on playing.
input on my observations...I guess you just skipped over my "mostly observing" versus playing...

I was once told, that if one doesn't really listen to another and is always thinking of what they want to say next , they miss the others point all together and has no clue on what they were wanting to respond to ...because of trying to think of a response...I guess this is what has happened with your numerous"
bb28:If someone doesn't believe they are getting a fair random game, then for the life of me I can't figure out why they keep on playing.
whenever I have posted.

Maybe before reponding again with
bb28:If someone doesn't believe they are getting a fair random game, then for the life of me I can't figure out why they keep on playing.
You might just want to READ what one has posted.

I take no offense..to each their own...

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Apparently you did take offense, silcnlayc since you bothered to quote me several times. And yes.......I did read your post, wasn't anything much different than what you are usually saying. :)

I didn't disrespect you nor berate you, just stating my opinion, which I realize you don't agree with but to each his/her own.........correct?
 

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bb28:Apparently you did take offense, silcnlayc since you bothered to quote me several times.
Not at all, I figured I would remind myself and all how many times this was quoted by you....
I didn't disrespect you nor berate you, just stating my opinion, which I realize you don't agree with but to each his/her own.........correct?
Yep, to each their own...I do not know why it bothers you so much if someone wants to play at a casino they do not feel gives them a fair shake...it is their money, yes??
wasn't anything much different than what you are usually saying
Now I do find this odd because it pertains to a casino changing in the way they might be operating for the good...I really do not think you read anything at all..just wanted to state what you thought regardles of what was posted by me..as the saying goes...you will not understand what is being said if you are too intent on thinking of a response before the question is asked..

But that is ok...You do not like what I write so why bother reading it when all the input you have is the same thing over and over again no matter what..which is
bb28:If someone doesn't believe they are getting a fair random game, then for the life of me I can't figure out why they keep on playing.
You might want to find a new line...it has gotten really old..but then again, I guess it can grow on one, can't it...

It would be a good byline so you wouldn't have to repeat yourself so much..when you feel one is not in favor with you when they post an opinion..

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Well you have to also realize. Unlike a slot machine in oh vegas or atlantic city or whatever land based casino you might venture to. If you do. Online casinos RTP and what not aren't just based on the handful of people in here that bitch. That I'm not getting a fair game because I never win. Well I'm sure as posted several times in newsletters. People are winning and it's not always people here. I'm sure we have thousands of members here, but that doesn't also include the thousands of players out there who aren't registered. I mean I'm sure people win every day otherwise I'm sure people liek Bryan and Maxd wouldn't put so much faith in these online casinos. It's just not everyone here. I admit up until the last month. I had hell of a nice run at several casinos. RTG, Vegas Tech and Rival. Now I'm on my bad streak, it happens. Yes the casinos don't seem random just because we dont' have enough people in posting. Hey I won, but to me it's there choice if they want to post if they won or not. I don't post every win I get either. I only post the big win screen shots just to prove these people do pay, and yes it is random.
But we have to think that these RTP's are based on everyone hitting the same slots, same cash pool, and same randoms at the same time.
Now getting to my initial line about land based casinos. I used to work at a Slot Attentendent. Now trust me I would watch various machines pay and pay for days on end. Then just stop paying. It just varies on when the machine is ready to pay.
We could use this example in the idea of online casinos. There are times when these casinos pay out and they pay out well. Other times they don't pay at all.
I hope this kind of helps clarify a few things and the lovely one line that bb keeps repeating.
 

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Not at all, I figured I would remind myself and all how many times this was quoted by you....Yep, to each their own...I do not know why it bothers you so much if someone wants to play at a casino they do not feel gives them a fair shake...it is their money, yes??Now I do find this odd because it pertains to a casino changing in the way they might be operating for the good...I really do not think you read anything at all..just wanted to state what you thought regardles of what was posted by me..as the saying goes...you will not understand what is being said if you are too intent on thinking of a response before the question is asked..

But that is ok...You do not like what I write so why bother reading it when all the input you have is the same thing over and over again no matter what..which is You might want to find a new line...it has gotten really old..but then again, I guess it can grow on one, can't it...

It would be a good byline so you wouldn't have to repeat yourself so much..when you feel one is not in favor with you when they post an opinion..

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Me repeating myself..........ha ha, yep I probably do when it comes to my attitude about folks who bitch and moan about the same old thing repeatedly.

And this isn't a knock silcnlayc, you are obviously a very smart person as evidenced by your posts, but I gotta wonder when you obviously feel strongly that RTG is rigged, why do you keep going back for more........why is that?

If I feel I'm not getting a fair game.......it's simple, I'm outta there.

Yep......it is your money and your opinion and you can do what ever you want with it. :D
 

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bb28:If I feel I'm not getting a fair game.......it's simple, I'm outta there.
Now that makes me happy especially for you...
Me repeating myself..........ha ha, yep I probably do when it comes to my attitude about folks who bitch and moan about the same old thing repeatedly.
bb28, the only thing I find sad in this , is that there are very few posters left that are not affiliates or casino reps on the board because of not wanting to give an opinion on what their play was like anymore. Haven't you noticed the lack of actual non casino related posters left on this board?

I am guilty of jumping on one poster just recently due to 10 of the same threads running on about the same thing for pages and pages and I got called down for it, and rightly so by others and I also made good with this poster.

What I do not understand is being so against someones sharing their observations on the changes going on that one is seeing first hand without any interaction with a casino..just as an observer....

This is what is confusing to me...instead of beating up on someone that starts a new thread when there are 10 others going on about the same thing, but choosing that one persons post repeatedly whenever they post that you find annoying for some reason when it is on a different subject totally..

I really do not understand this. I guess there are reasons for everything and one day you might share this with me.

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Interesting thought as to whether the RJ's may be awarded at lower but quicker rates. Also as to what has been said in other threads, it would be nice to see RTG change the Real Series slots to where their is a choice between a RJ slot and a non-RJ slot. Like I said before this would or may peek my interest in RTG again.
But other than that, I know there are people that win at RTG, we see the screenshots and are not silly in thinking otherwise, but many of us are experiencing the losing side of the coin way to often.
Kind of like a fish separator, the fish are sorted by gates, one gate goes to the sparkling pond with the good food and the other gate leads to the packing plant, somehow, I keep getting corraled into the stream that goes to the packing plant, don't know why, but it keeps happening. So, not so long story short here, I too quit swimming that stream only because I don't like the packing plant, would have been nice to see that sparkling pond with the tasty tidbits in it, but moved on and have found my tasty tidbits back with Microgamming :).
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. Mavin1 :So, not so long story short here, I too quit swimming that stream only because I don't like the packing plant, would have been nice to see that sparkling pond with the tasty tidbits in it, but moved on and have found my tasty tidbits back with Microgamming .
Too funny :lolup:...but a great analogy...I too jumped that packing plant fence and went the way of MG...happily...but still got my eyes on the other platforms for any signs of change...

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I can't just sit here quietly and let this go on without saying something. Someone had to say it. Here goes.

Silc, where's the cranky computer lady? Its hard reading your post without her :)
 

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Too funny :lolup:...but a great analogy...I too jumped that packing plant fence and went the way of MG...happily...but still got my eyes on the other platforms for any signs of change...

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I guess I am feeling a bit poetic today, or Hitchcockian or something :D.
But, it is always good to keep our eyes and ears open for changes especially for us here in the US since we have fewer choices of effervescent sparkling ponds, (note; effervescent may be mispelled) ;). To lazy to find the dictionary....
 

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Silc, im a player also and i find gambling to be like a huge roller coaster ride, it has its up and down and twist and turn moments. Some get sick from riding to much while others want to keep riding for the thrill of it and never know when to get off .

I have to agree with BB on what she posted. If your not getting a thrill or your moneys worth you paid to ride the coaster, you might want to think about changing to something else in the amusement park that you like better.

I do wish you luck and hope you hit that RJ one of these days, you have such a great way of posting and i do respect your opinion but im getting tired of the same ole ride over and over again...........Laurie
 

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Ok, I got to point out that in the last few months I have noticed the Clubworld group (sister casinos included) have had more small to medium randoms go off ...then most other RTG casinos.( have been watching a LOT but not participating too much yet)

Is Clubworld going to be the leader in retaining players with this change?? I know I have started visiting them a little more than others just to see what is happening with these randoms.. and have found that many are going off at a much lower level than they used to.

I think that maybe, they have heard the players requests??? If they continue down this path, they will most definitely be the place to play at in my opinion..

Hopefully, it is not just a glitch but a trend that they are doing...because if they continue down this path, I know where I will be returning to play again...but, got to wait and see a little more just in case it was a fluke and they spike the game wins again...


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I tend to believe that the RJs can be hit at random. However, I recall Dogboy as stating that for each $1 spin there is a 30,000-1 chance in triggering the JP. If so, and alike changes to the RTP, why cant the triggering be set at say 10,000-1 chance for triggering the RJ. It would hit more frequently would explain what Silc has seen at CWC. Just a thought.
 

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I don't think that 'silcnlayc' is the only member here, who continually pushes out the same mantra day-after-day-after-day. There are MANY members here, who say the same thing, again-and-again-and-again, followed by the same knee-jerk responses.



If 'silcnlayc' pushes her perspectives too much, I'm willing to overlook that because I can also appreciate the fact that she has experience playing online, and that she's willing to post about it. It's not as though she's being applauded by everyone along the way either, so I find that she's put up with a lot of crap as well considering that she still makes an effort to write about her opinions/perspectives stemming from her personal experience.




I would also like to add that my pet peeve with a lot of people, is fake diplomacy. If you said something, and it reads like you meant it, don't backpedal and act as though that it was somehow misinterpreted, you were just being 'nice', or it was just a simple misunderstanding. It's like saying, "I completely respect you, and I'm not trying to be mean, but everything you say is completely wrong, you make no sense, you obviously have a problem with not knowing when to quit, you're a sore loser, and why do you still come here exactly?" False chivalry. And to those who jump-the-gun, and suggest to people that they need to look at themselves in the mirror because maybe they may have a gambling problem, it comes off as though you're either trying to win an argument, trying to save face, or trying to look 'kind' in the saccharin sense of the word. If that person has a problem, they're the ones who'll have to come to the realization that there needs to be a change in their lifestyle.





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Nifty29, I understand they are "random"...just as so many said that blackjack is "random" it seems in "reality" it really isn't.

I watch the trends and all the hogwash about randomness, rtp's etc...is just that, hogwash. Think about it. If a casino wants to draw in more players, what would they do? And we know the settings can be requested to be changed so where is this randomness everyone keeps talking about when one can change the ultimate outcome of things to suit their needs...?

I really cannot believe that so many keep believing that all is really what is said...but not shown...a casino must keep a certain percnntage and this is not debated, but what is debated is the "randomness" when one can change the outcome in the long run to suit their needs. This is not random, this is purposeful.

Just my 2 cents...just like the black jack question is finally being seen for what it is...and that also was believed to be "random" when in reality, it was not, but again, just my opinion and starting to be seen by others for what that was.


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