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[Nate]

You cannot base a decision to play on a small sample of random spins I partook in. As Harry and others stated, it's reminiscent of DoA where the feature is highly volatile and will pay mediocrity most of the time, but when it goes, it really goes for you.

I tried NOT to base my decisions on a small sample... some other members did too... hundreds of thousands or even millions of spins

To this day, irrespective of the amount of spins I've made, BTG still trolls the fuck outta my balances and acts more compensated than any other slots I've played.

Feature buys and GIMMICKS are what they are all about - Irrespective of how you market it or spin it

How many times have we seen the 'Potential' of WWTBAM - 50kx?? ... Is there any proof it even exists?

Nate

 

[dunover]

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How many times have we seen the 'Potential' of WWTBAM - 50kx?? ... Is there any proof it even exists?

Nate

Nope.

 

[Jono777]

Hmmmm, ENHANCED feature - now you only need 3 scatters to trigger the bonus????

Not seen that before, oh hang on a sec, don't 99.999999% of slots only require 3 scatters

 

[nutnut]

Propaganda video released least everyone's see through the bullshit this time.

 

[nutnut]

Let me get this straight a streamer/YouTube gets early access to bgt game like many others and gets to release a video early and we expect him to be impartial(no that he is).

Not been a BGT slot released which you have pushed via YouTube or here for him that you have criticized.

More cringing that prince andrew interview.

 

[pinnit2014]

Propaganda video released least everyone's see through the bullshit this time.

Every release I become less enthused.

If it's not the gimmicky set up it's the stupid music.

 

[goatwack]

I see as usual the only ones enthused over BTG are shills and affiliates

'quelle surprise'

 

[Kroffe]

I see as usual the only ones enthused over BTG are shills and affiliates

'quelle surprise'

#notallshills

 

[nutnut]

I see as usual the only ones enthused over BTG are shills and affiliates

'quelle surprise'

But but but but but it has POTENTIAL

 

[thr0b]

Lots of criticism of BTG but the elephant in the room is that they’re popular because the games are fun. There is real anticipation in what the likes of Bonanza and Chilli can pay out. Lots of other games haven’t got that. They feel like you’re grinding.

The house will always win, but BTG does at least help you have fun.

 

[Buffalo Bill]

Is it going to be exclusive at one casino for weeks first? When they are I normally lose interest before it comes to a casino i play at.

 

[Kroffe]

Is it going to be exclusive at one casino for weeks first? When they are I normally lose interest before it comes to a casino i play at.

Based on their latest releases i would almost assume this one aswell will be exclusive at some site for a couple weeks.
This is probably what i currently dislike most with new slot-releases.

Are they really paid enough money to make it worth it losing out on so many people playing the slot on release? (i mean obviously yes, otherwise they wouldnt do it)

 

[greylady]

Lots of criticism of BTG but the elephant in the room is that they’re popular because the games are fun. There is real anticipation in what the likes of Bonanza and Chilli can pay out. Lots of other games haven’t got that. They feel like you’re grinding.

The house will always win, but BTG does at least help you have fun.

I haven't had fun on any of their slots for nigh on two years, Bonanza, DHV, Final Countdown or lil devil have all given me crap bonus rounds - i dread to think what they have all taken (even if you take £25 per week), which I know it will be more, it's abysmal and tells me all i need to know!

 

[Kroffe]

This kind of thread is doomed to repeat itself for every btg-release.
And then we all play the slot like the suckers we are.
Rinse and repeat.

 

[goatwack]

Thing is we *want* to give them a chance as it were, to prove us wrong and make a killer slot to carry on where DHV left off, yet all I'm seeing is ever-increasing variance and mechanics that require players to 'save up' just to hope to break even.

Where are the hits? Where is the longevity on their games? Who the flip asked for inter-galactic variance when HV suffices?

 

[dunover]

Let me get this straight a streamer/YouTube gets early access to bgt game like many others and gets to release a video early and we expect him to be impartial(no that he is).

Not been a BGT slot released which you have pushed via YouTube or here for him that you have criticized.

More cringing that prince andrew interview.

You don't know how lucky you are having me post these BTG slots here. We've got the most monstrous thread ever where I introduced you to Bonanza, your favourite game and think of all the fun you've had since. I like BTG slots, the best out there by a mile. The only one I haven't played for real yet is Monopoly Megaways. I am totally impartial reviewing slots depending on the level of bungs I get and how high my affiliate RTP is set at. Think how much poorer your life would have been without Bonanza and stop bitchin'. I am a slots philosopher and please don't forget it.

 

[Kroffe]

You don't know how lucky you are having me post these BTG slots here. We've got the most monstrous thread ever where I introduced you to Bonanza, your favourite game and think of all the fun you've had since. I like BTG slots, the best out there by a mile. The only one I haven't played for real yet is Monopoly Megaways. I am totally impartial reviewing slots depending on the level of bungs I get and how high my affiliate RTP is set at. Think how much poorer your life would have been without Bonanza and stop bitchin'. I am a slots philosopher and please don't forget it.

I can recommend Monopoly megaways.
Has some truly amazing 29-spin bonuses that one.

Best set your affiliate-rtp on full blast before playing tho.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Is it going to be exclusive at one casino for weeks first? When they are I normally lose interest before it comes to a casino i play at.

Yes, exclusive at Leovegas casino's on February 12th for 2 weeks before general release according to the BTG website.

 

[sufferinsilence]

You cannot base a decision to play on a small sample of random spins I partook in. As Harry and others stated, it's reminiscent of DoA where the feature is highly volatile and will pay mediocrity most of the time, but when it goes, it really goes for you.

It's not only the volatility tho. The enhanced heartstopper feature where you still have to trigger the feature is taking a good idea one step too far, the way it is implemented in Lil Devil is great! The symbols couldn't be more generic, it doesn't have the same attraction Bonanza has.

And the music in the bonus is just trolling when it ends on 10x

Anyway, we'll see the potential over the 2 weeks it's exclusive and when I can't play it because of country restrictions. But that exclusivity always kills my anticipation for a slot.

 

[nutnut]

You don't know how lucky you are having me post these BTG slots here. We've got the most monstrous thread ever where I introduced you to Bonanza, your favourite game and think of all the fun you've had since. I like BTG slots, the best out there by a mile. The only one I haven't played for real yet is Monopoly Megaways. I am totally impartial reviewing slots depending on the level of bungs I get and how high my affiliate RTP is set at. Think how much poorer your life would have been without Bonanza and stop bitchin'. I am a slots philosopher and please don't forget it.

Oh so it's you I need to blame for bonanza existing. Thanks for reminding me.

 

[goatwack]

I guess they're using that old mantra of 'Withhold release from public in exclusive deal, then build up anticipation, so that upon general release the crowds go wild'

Hasn't really had the desired effect since White Rabbit has it. That game was more of a flop than me after 10 pints

 

[cncas2123]

Am I missing something or is someone really twisting peoples arms up their back to play BTG slots? Simple thing would be if you don't like it. don't play it....... or any of their games.

 

[dionysus]

Am I missing something or is someone really twisting peoples arms up their back to play BTG slots? Simple thing would be if you don't like it. don't play it....... or any of their games.

if people didnt have a game to bitch about (while continuing to flog it), they'd like, have to chat about life or go outdoors or as you say, play something else...much too much work

 

[goatwack]

I like to think of it as a pre-release venting of sorts

Saves the salt later on

 

[Mr_Slot5]

I don't get all of the criticism towards BTG either.

You have all and sundry slagging off Bonanza because it doesn't give out monster wins frequently, so they made Lil Devil that spits out monster wins regularly and now this game that, though very volatile, has the potential to equal those monster wins too.

Yet still the same old comments how boring their games are, they rip of players etc.

These slots are no different to Dead or Alive (I and II) where you can waste deposit after deposit chasing that monster win with the most boring base game ever invented. Or compare it to Jammin Jars that feels like having a base game RTP of less than 50% with deposits disappearing faster than burning your money.

Completely agree and I have made this point before. Number of 1000x + DOA has paid me is 1. Number of 1000x + DOA2 has paid me is 0. Number of 1000x + play n go has paid me 8 or 9 including a 5000x. Number of 1000x + BTG has paid me is probably close to the play n go figure.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Based on their latest releases i would almost assume this one aswell will be exclusive at some site for a couple weeks.
This is probably what i currently dislike most with new slot-releases.

Are they really paid enough money to make it worth it losing out on so many people playing the slot on release? (i mean obviously yes, otherwise they wouldnt do it)

You can rest assured it is worth it.

First, they get a paid "Beta" test for the game, e.g. it is played by hundreds at the same time only, not 10,000s. I remember one number for Bonanza, over 27,000 players were spinning on it at the same time. This was in the first year of its release, that number is probably much higher now in the evenings/weekends.

Plus, every casino pays a share of the revenue to the game provider, usually for exclusives they pay xx% more for xxx number of months/years.

With LeoVegas, they also get their favourite streamer, who is now himself part of LeoVegas, to spread the "good news" and "big wins" to over 100K followers, plus maybe some extra "bonuses/revenue" for the streamer and a giveaway for the followers to build up the anticipation.

No offense to anyone, but streamer followers are to a large part like sheep, or maybe better said "groupies". If the "streamer god" says its good, they will hammer it like there is no tomorrow and then proudly post the 200x or 500x, maybe the odd 1,000x bet wins, only to be told along the lines "see I told you, it can pay, and it can get much higher, just keep playing."

What I am trying to say is, you would be surprised what kind of deals go on behind the scenes.

 

[Kroffe]

Completely agree and I have made this point before. Number of 1000x + DOA has paid me is 1. Number of 1000x + DOA2 has paid me is 0. Number of 1000x + play n go has paid me 8 or 9 including a 5000x. Number of 1000x + BTG has paid me is probably close to the play n go figure.

How does the spin-count look?
I think i have pretty similar count between Btg and Netent (used to grind the btg slots back when i still were allowed bonuses, and i think wagering is what bonanza does best)
And i have 1 1000x+ win, zero over 1500x+ from Btg, and by now i lost count on how many 1500x+ wins i have from Netent.
Maybe our luck is just opposite.

I cant really comment on Png since i dont play it enough.
But if i were looking for a 1000x+ win id rather go Png than Btg easily.
Just looking at the numbers produced by casinos, book of dead alone produces more wins over 1000x than the whole Btg portfolio does.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

How does the spin-count look?
I think i have pretty similar count between Btg and Netent (used to grind the btg slots back when i still were allowed bonuses, and i think wagering is what bonanza does best)
And i have 1 1000x+ win, zero over 1500x+ from Btg, and by now i lost count on how many 1500x+ wins i have from Netent.
Maybe our luck is just opposite.

I cant really comment on Png since i dont play it enough.
But if i were looking for a 1000x+ win id rather go Png than Btg easily.
Just looking at the numbers produced by casinos, book of dead alone produces more wins over 1000x than the whole Btg portfolio does.

Fair point, I tend to stay away from NetEnt.

BoD has given me all of my 1000x+ hits on PlaynGo

I've had a couple 1000x+ on bonanza, a couple on DHV, a couple on Donuts and one on White Rabbit where BTG are concerned. I had 2 1000xers on Bonanza in one week.

And then a 900+x in that same week too

I'd had a 1000x+ a bit before that too...

So yeah, I've hit fairly frequently on BTG

 

[snorky510238]

You can rest assured it is worth it.

First, they get a paid "Beta" test for the game, e.g. it is played by hundreds at the same time only, not 10,000s. I remember one number for Bonanza, over 27,000 players were spinning on it at the same time. This was in the first year of its release, that number is probably much higher now in the evenings/weekends.

Plus, every casino pays a share of the revenue to the game provider, usually for exclusives they pay xx% more for xxx number of months/years.

With LeoVegas, they also get their favourite streamer, who is now himself part of LeoVegas, to spread the "good news" and "big wins" to over 100K followers, plus maybe some extra "bonuses/revenue" for the streamer and a giveaway for the followers to build up the anticipation.

No offense to anyone, but streamer followers are to a large part like sheep, or maybe better said "groupies". If the "streamer god" says its good, they will hammer it like there is no tomorrow and then proudly post the 200x or 500x, maybe the odd 1,000x bet wins, only to be told along the lines "see I told you, it can pay, and it can get much higher, just keep playing."

What I am trying to say is, you would be surprised what kind of deals go on behind the scenes.

27,000 players at one time. With figures like that is is more than feasible popular games are clearing a £1,000,000 a day profit, some days and Casinos are lowering rtp.

 

[lewisnadasurf]

I personally think the annoyance with BTG slots is that it kills the balance in such a way you’d expect the potential to be aligned with DOA2. (Which it rarely is)

the only game I’ve ever seen get even remotely close is Lil Devil.

 

[dunover]

27,000 players at one time. With figures like that is is more than feasible popular games are clearing a £1,000,000 a day profit, some days and Casinos are lowering rtp.

Not on BTG slots they ain't...

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

If you watch Dazzas vids and focus on the features.........

Just look how many gem symbols litter the reels on small amount of ways towards reels 4,5 and 6.

Its just so blatant, I wish they’d find a way to disguise the gimped reels a bit better.

Nearly every spin is the same.

 

[dunover]

If you watch Dazzas vids and focus on the features.........

Just look how many gem symbols litter the reels on small amount of ways towards reels 4,5 and 6.

Its just so blatant, I wish they’d find a way to disguise the gimped reels a bit better.

Nearly every spin is the same.

I noticed the proliferation of gems too.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

How can you not notice it!!!!?

 

[lockinlove]

5 Million spins? So that's an average of 500 per hour, for 10,000 hours. The average working week is 40 hours, so you spent the equivalent to nearly 5 years' work playing Bonanza? As its been out a shade over 3 years, we must raise that figure to an average of 56 hours per week, or 8 hours per day for just over 3 years. Now either you had a serious obsession with the game or more likely (hopefully!) you never had 5 million plays on it...

oh thats all? Okay i probably had 8 million spins on it then my bad

 

[trancemonkey]

I am not sure why you all criticize BTG. Do you really think any game studio cares about your or my feelings?

Commercially, their strategy and games roadmap are like the "holy grail" to be successful in online gaming. Did anyone talk about or know BTG before December 2016 (Bonanza release)? Most probably not as Dragon Born, Starquest and their other games had hardly any impact. We were all happily accepting 4x bet FS rounds on DoA chasing a WL and still chucking deposit after deposit into it.

Royal Mint MW is for me a logical step in their roadmap, taking some of their most popular mechanics and mixing them into one slot. Keeps the flow going and the players on their seats waiting again an hour or more to trigger a feature, while not realizing that another deposit disappeared into thin air. Rather genius if you ask me.

A few observations:

- They must have reserved quite a good chunk of the RTP for the Enhanced FS because if you noticed, you'll get only +4 FS for an extra scatter instead of +5. Plus, collecting 40 bars will not trigger the round, it will make it just easier. All that contributes to the RTP portion for the Enhanced feature, hence, it will have potential. But most of us will never see it because the feature is extremely volatile.
- With the mechanic, they secured themselves against the UKGC or other authorities who, after banning Feature Buys, might also put a stop to "Reward Features".
- As for the similar soundtrack and symbols, that is purely psychological. The FS round does have a good soundtrack though, so an improvement to Bonanza.

Is it a good game? You bet it is, the question is only for whom mainly? I have no doubt what the answer is just as I have no doubt that players will queue up to play it.

Harry is absolutely right - i personal don't like the game because it's just the same symbols, same mechanic, same thing we have seen countless other times in the last few years BUT, whilst some of the other titles they have tried have been poor in comparison, they still are doing exactly what i would do in their shoes.

Once you have a good maths model / game mechanic / licence / whatever - you need to milk it for all it's worth, because for all they know, they might never have another good idea.

Pragmatic Play have NEVER had a good original idea, they just copy everyone else's good ideas. But that, in and of itself, is a good idea - because they quite often take games in to markets the original could never get in to.

So from a business point of view, stuff like Royal Mint makes perfect sense - and with Blueprint releasing a new Megaways slot every day (and recently they are really scraping the barrel >Eye of Horus Megaways is an abomination compared to the original game), why wouldn't they eek the last pennies out of it.

Megaways is here to stay, certainly for a good few years yet - they will rehash every single game you know in to Megaways until the numbers show it's not worth it any more, and by that time, the next big thing may be on us [PS - It won't be Infinity Reels or anything made by NetEnt]

So, Nik - i may not like the new games that much, but i salute your business acumen and i don't blame you one bit for games like Royal Mint!

@dunover - you must be on the BTG payroll though, surely

 

[dunover]

@dunover - you must be on the BTG payroll though, surely

Oh, absolutely! I didn't even have to win a BTG screenshots competition to have my Tesla delivered...

 

[sufferinsilence]

Oh, absolutely! I didn't even have to win a BTG screenshots competition to have my Tesla delivered...

 

[dunover]

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Too old for me, I wasn't allowed to play with it.

 

[dunover]

Pragmatic Play have NEVER had a good original idea, they just copy everyone else's good ideas. But that, in and of itself, is a good idea - because they quite often take games in to markets the original could never get in to.
@dunover - you must be on the BTG payroll though, surely

LOL...got me thinking of Book of The Sphinx the new IGT - not a bad slot actually, a gentler version of BoRe Deluxe. Nothing new to see, like the mystery expanding symbols feature added.

 

[Siohmy]

I don't get all of the criticism towards BTG either.

You have all and sundry slagging off Bonanza because it doesn't give out monster wins frequently, so they made Lil Devil that spits out monster wins regularly and now this game that, though very volatile, has the potential to equal those monster wins too.

Yet still the same old comments how boring their games are, they rip of players etc.

These slots are no different to Dead or Alive (I and II) where you can waste deposit after deposit chasing that monster win with the most boring base game ever invented. Or compare it to Jammin Jars that feels like having a base game RTP of less than 50% with deposits disappearing faster than burning your money.

100%. The level of abuse handed out to BTG is massively disproportionate to the stick other manufacturers get, with the above examples exhibit A and B. How they both won slot of the year on here is unreal.

 

[m0nkeyboy]

So I have been playing this on Leovegas today and it seems seriosuly seriously hard to bonus. Around 700 spins so far has eaten x250 my stake and have only got 11 heart stoppers so far. Tbh the only good thing so far is chose to play it on 40p as was going to start on 80p!!!

 

[Davey86]

19 autoplay spins in bangs in m i n t........
Bonus payed 17 x the stake £0.40p
Maybe next time

 

[nikantw]

...I cant really comment on Png since i dont play it enough.
But if i were looking for a 1000x+ win id rather go Png than Btg easily.
Just looking at the numbers produced by casinos, book of dead alone produces more wins over 1000x than the whole Btg portfolio does.

Definitely not.
Just looking the screenshots here DHV alone has more big wins than BOD.

BTW, I don't remember any real numbers from any casino. By real I mean x wins from y spins. 10 wins in 10 million spins is worst than 1 win in 20k spins.

 

[Kroffe]

Definitely not.
Just looking the screenshots here DHV alone has more big wins than BOD.

BTW, I don't remember any real numbers from any casino. By real I mean x wins from y spins. 10 wins in 10 million spins is worst than 1 win in 20k spins.

We need @Harry_BKK to post one of them info-table thingys.
Maybe they say how often 1000x wins happen.

But arguing btg vs png is somewhat pointless when everybody knows in their heart that Netent is the best!

Not Hooks heroes tho.

 

[paul7388]

We need @Harry_BKK to post one of them info-table thingys.
Maybe they say how often 1000x wins happen.

But arguing btg vs png is somewhat pointless when everybody knows in their heart that Netent is the best!
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Not Hooks heroes tho.

And Quickspin kicks Netent's ass.

Forget Harry no new BTG slot review counts for anything till Nate gives his impartial view on it.

 

[Kroffe]

And Quickspin kicks Netent's ass.

Forget Harry no new BTG slot review counts for anything till Nate gives his impartial view on it.

Come on now Paul.
We are comparing real providers vs each other.

Quickspin is pretty good, but only if we are talking about the option to make your spins faster on Png&Netent slots.

 

[Harry_BKK]

We need @Harry_BKK to post one of them info-table thingys.
Maybe they say how often 1000x wins happen.

But arguing btg vs png is somewhat pointless when everybody knows in their heart that Netent is the best!
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Not Hooks heroes tho.

Which slots exactly?

Got actually a DND sign on my door, playing Royal Mint MW
in demo mode

 

[Kroffe]

Which slots exactly?

Got actually a DND sign on my door, playing Royal Mint MW
in demo mode

Mainly wondering if Book of dead has any numbers on how frequent 1000x+ wins land.
Does btg have anything like the info-tables other providers give out?

 

[Harry_BKK]

Mainly wondering if Book of dead has any numbers on how frequent 1000x+ wins land.
Does btg have anything like the info-tables other providers give out?

PnG only has the probability for max win. For BoD it is 1:37,500,000.

BTG - NADA, never seen a single game sheet from them. Don't even know if they exist.

Quickspin and NetEnt give out most details. Well, not really, the excerpts I post are not made for public consumption but I don't really care