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Roulette Strategy

spiderman said:
So which is it? You knock Bitchard but claim to win yourself. You can't grasp that he is winning within two years. I believe him more than I believe you.
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I believe him, too. If you're talking about the part where he doesn't want anyone to know how his non-system roulette system works.

This thread is 3 weeks old. It's been forked. 'Fraid we don't even have a consolation prize for you.

- Keith
 
davey said:
Roulette is a game of chance but unlike most other casino games, the player has the advantage of only betting if the 'law of averages' are in his favour.
If you record number at land or online casinos after 1000 spins you will see that all numbers hit pretty much as often as the next. In my opinion this gives the player a chance to develop a successful strategy.
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This does not mean that the chance of a number rises when this number has not been hit for 100 or even 1000 spins before. Therefore, there can't be a roulette system. You are right, in the long run all numbers have the same chance of hitting. But that does not mean that you can make any assumptions in the short run.
 
even chances

Let me ask all of you about one roulette strategy:
I would like to play by means of Martingale and to place bets only on even chances (red, black, even, odd, 1-18, 19-36). I will be able to double my bets up to 16 times.
I will make absolutely random and chaotic bets on even chances. It's not my brain which will deside what bet will be the next ))
My questions are:
Should I play by means of this strategy or not? Is it possible that I lose 16 times in a row?
 
villarreal said:
Let me ask all of you about one roulette strategy:
I would like to play by means of Martingale and to place bets only on even chances (red, black, even, odd, 1-18, 19-36). I will be able to double my bets up to 16 times.
I will make absolutely random and chaotic bets on even chances. It's not my brain which will deside what bet will be the next ))
My questions are:
Should I play by means of this strategy or not? Is it possible that I lose 16 times in a row?
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villarreal said:
Pulver,
I have just read that.
Do you want to say that in the long run (sooner or later) I will have 16 losses in a row? :(
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Рано или поздно это событие наступит. ИМХО, самые долгоиграющие стратегии - на дюжинах. Хотя я играю по чуйке :D
 
SlotMonster said:
Рано или поздно это событие наступит. ИМХО, самые долгоиграющие стратегии - на дюжинах. Хотя я играю по чуйке :D
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Would you mind translating please?

I know villarreal is Russian, but the forum is English and its rude to post in other languages.
 
Nifty29 said:
Would you mind translating please?

I know villarreal is Russian, but the forum is English and its rude to post in other languages.
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I disagree that it's rude. I understand that the main language of this forum is English, but if you try to search - you can find many posts in other languages. Many of them are just greetings for new players (since many forum members don't use English where they do live), but I can's see anything rude if I tried to explain something to another forum member in his native language. Want to know what did I say? Kindly ask for translation please. Thank you.
 
SlotMonster said:
I disagree that it's rude. I understand that the main language if this forum is English, but if you try to search - you can find many posts in other languages. Many of them are just greetings for new players (since many forum members don't use English where they do live), but I can's see anything rude if I tried to explain something to another forum member in his native language. Want to know what did I say? Kindly ask for translation please. Thank you.
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If he had asked the question in Russian, I would understand. He asked in English.

IMPO it is equivalent to whispering to someone in front of someone else. I'm sure you would be offended if you were speaking English to some people and they all of a sudden began conversing in a language you understand. If you want to have a chat in Russian why not PM?

FWIW I already said please. If you don't want to translate, then don't.
 
Nifty29 said:
If he had asked the question in Russian, I would understand. He asked in English.
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Good point, thanks. Next time I will ask in English or via PM.

villarreal said:
Slotmonster
Anyway I believe 16 losses in a row will never occur. It's not easy to lose 16 times in a row
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Seems like you are very new to casinos and gambling. iirc, the longest sequence of numbers of the same color occurred in land-based casino is 32 times. 16 numbers in a row and of the same color are pretty rare (you can calculate the probability) but the are NOT impossible.
 
villarreal said:
Anyway I believe 16 losses in a row will never occur. It's not easy to lose 16 times in a row
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Yes it WILL occur!
Mathematically once in every 65,536 spins.
Also mathematically, EVERY SINGLE BET you place on Roulette, no matter how much, what on, or when, IS exposed to the 2.7027% house edge.
You can no more avoid that than you could defy gravity & jump over the moon!

Also, if you're starting with $1 and doubling your bet on every spin, do you realise that by spin 16 you will have risked $65,535 to win just $1! :eek2:

You may think 65,536 makes it "as good as certain to never happen", but I can tell you in a real B&M casino I have seen Red come up on a Roulette wheel 21 times in a row.
These things can and DO happen, and 65,536 to one is nothing compared to some things, for example, the odds of this happening were 1 in 3.69 MILLION - but it still happened...
 

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Roulette is extremely easy to play and fun filled game. Most online venues offer two types of Roulette American and European. One of the best online roulette strategy is open accounts at reputable casino rooms. And the one regularly publish their payout percentages. there is no point in doing every thing right and winning at the tables. if the casino officials starts winning you up when your request your pay out. Be sure to check players before placing real money bets.
 
Stupid?

Its also funny whenyou see on Forums that people are trying there hardest to sell there strategy.

Do these people think we are Idiots? if it works that well thenwhy would they sell it,

There is no systemgood enough to sell!, Ifits going to pay , Its going to pay!
 
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We all loose a lot of money after play many times on the few same casinos, so, first we started a plan just to don´t loose money, next we started a plan to win some money and we finnaly reach this plan, we now win money everyday.

Everyone can start win too, just follow the rules that we explain here... www.crapmeister.com

This is the only most secure method to win some money from roulette! :)
 
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cabelamm said:
When you gamble you need luck so I don't think is a skill game!
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it's true on;y when you are playing against a random number generator in an online casino. This is the reason why I bet on live roulettes, because your strategy can work just like in real life casinos. My strategy in Live European Roulette is easy, I just follow whatever the software called <snip> advice me to. It is a very good software and I have never lost a session because of it. You can purchase it if you want to, and when you lose within your first 14 days, they will give you your money back, guaranteed
 
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bigdog said:
it's true on;y when you are playing against a random number generator in an online casino. This is the reason why I bet on live roulettes, because your strategy can work just like in real life casinos. My strategy in Live European Roulette is easy, I just follow whatever the software called Roulette Crusher advice me to. It is a very good software and I have never lost a session because of it. You can purchase it if you want to, and when you lose within your first 14 days, they will give you your money back, guaranteed
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I sense a nice red jacket may be in your future.
 
I had a roulette strategy way back, I'd jump on certain MG casino and bet on 22 black.
I don't know if it was a bug or just luck but it would come up within the first 3 spins.
 
No Zero

davey said:
Roulette is a game of chance but unlike most other casino games, the player has the advantage of only betting if the 'law of averages' are in his favour.
If you record number at land or online casinos after 1000 spins you will see that all numbers hit pretty much as often as the next. In my opinion this gives the player a chance to develop a successful strategy.

Hi Davey:

I enjoyed your words of wisdom, and thanks for putting me onto the NO ZERO casino: (It Does Make A Difference)
Gordon
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RockyRoulette said:
davey said:
Roulette is a game of chance but unlike most other casino games, the player has the advantage of only betting if the 'law of averages' are in his favour.
If you record number at land or online casinos after 1000 spins you will see that all numbers hit pretty much as often as the next. In my opinion this gives the player a chance to develop a successful strategy.

Hi Davey:

I enjoyed your words of wisdom, and thanks for putting me onto the NO ZERO casino: (It Does Make A Difference)
Gordon
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There is no "winning strategy" in a random number game where the offered odds are lower than the actual odds.

The only way to win in the long term is if you can consistently predict the outcome of a random event. If you DO have a way to achieve this, then please contact the Nobel Prize committee or demand $5million from every casino on earth to keep your mouth shut about it.....if other people get hold of it, every casino in the world will have to close immediately to prevent being cleaned out.

DON'T DO IT!! Please....save our casinos!!

:rolleyes:
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Ignoring the fact that waiting for patterns is a kinda bizarre strategy when every spin is independent, I always found it odd that people insist on betting opposites rather than following trends.

In the unlikely scenario that a wheel is biased (offline) then you are going to find certain numbers/areas come up slightly more often, and so you're actually going to be worsening your RTP by saying "well that segment has come up 19 times now - it MUST be another one next". Better to spot a potential bias and bet it - worst case you're taking the usual marginal -ev proposition if the wheel is fair.

On a similar note, people commonly latch onto red/black for sequences but again use the "it can't happen again" theory. Wouldn't it be more fun (if still nonsense) strategy to follow the colour? At least that way you end up with a cool story about how 10 blacks came up in a row and you won bundles, rather than boring someone with the bad beat story about how you lost all your cash trying to wait out a red appearing?!
 
Roller_Jamie said:
Ignoring the fact that waiting for patterns is a kinda bizarre strategy when every spin is independent, I always found it odd that people insist on betting opposites rather than following trends.

In the unlikely scenario that a wheel is biased (offline) then you are going to find certain numbers/areas come up slightly more often, and so you're actually going to be worsening your RTP by saying "well that segment has come up 19 times now - it MUST be another one next". Better to spot a potential bias and bet it - worst case you're taking the usual marginal -ev proposition if the wheel is fair.

On a similar note, people commonly latch onto red/black for sequences but again use the "it can't happen again" theory. Wouldn't it be more fun (if still nonsense) strategy to follow the colour? At least that way you end up with a cool story about how 10 blacks came up in a row and you won bundles, rather than boring someone with the bad beat story about how you lost all your cash trying to wait out a red appearing?!
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Ah yes....but a biased wheel makes it a non-random event, so an opportunity exists to employ strategies that can actually beat the house.

I think every player has some kind of strategy, but none of them can consistently beat the house, and if you can't do that, you can't win even in the medium term. The only gamblers that have made a killing on the roulette wheel are the ones who have cheated I.e. with that pocket sized "spin predictor" that gives them a 6-8 number estimate of where the ball will land.

That said, if you only had $50 to spend for a night at the casino, roulette is probably your best choice at low stakes (although craps has better odds and imo more fun).

Has anyone played craps with a table full of people? Its a lot of fun. I turned $50 into $500 one night playing only the field bet, which is my favourite. I once played next to a guy from Texas (hat and all) at Crown casino in Australia. He had flown in 42 hours earlier and had checked in to a big suite there, showered, and been at the craps table ever since. He had a stack of chips like you'd have playing poker with the kids at home. We struck up a conversation and turns out he does this 4 times a year, visiting different casinos in different countries. Really down to earth bloke, and obviously insanely rich. I asked why he wasn't in the high rollers lounge.....he said they were "full of assholes". LOL.

I played next to him for about an hour, made a few bucks, and decided to hit the slots. He slipped me a $100 chip and thanked me for my company. I was blown away, but refused to take it, shook hands and went slotting. Few minutes later a staff member taps me on the shoulder and hands me two cups full of $1 coins. $250 worth. Smart guy....its tougher to hand back buckets of coins. I figured he meant business and didn't want to insult the man so I played for hours til my eyes bled. I went to find him on my way out but he was gone....probably figured after 48 hrs he should sleep!

It struck me driving home that he was probably pretty lonely, and even more so when i thought about some things he said. I guess money isn't everything after all

Sorry for getting off topic there lol.
 
Nifty29 said:
Has anyone played craps with a table full of people? Its a lot of fun. I turned $50 into $500 one night playing only the field bet, which is my favourite. I once played next to a guy from Texas (hat and all) at Crown casino in Australia. He had flown in 42 hours earlier and had checked in to a big suite there, showered, and been at the craps table ever since. He had a stack of chips like you'd have playing poker with the kids at home. We struck up a conversation and turns out he does this 4 times a year, visiting different casinos in different countries. Really down to earth bloke, and obviously insanely rich. I asked why he wasn't in the high rollers lounge.....he said they were "full of assholes". LOL.

I played next to him for about an hour, made a few bucks, and decided to hit the slots. He slipped me a $100 chip and thanked me for my company. I was blown away, but refused to take it, shook hands and went slotting. Few minutes later a staff member taps me on the shoulder and hands me two cups full of $1 coins. $250 worth. Smart guy....its tougher to hand back buckets of coins. I figured he meant business and didn't want to insult the man so I played for hours til my eyes bled. I went to find him on my way out but he was gone....probably figured after 48 hrs he should sleep!

It struck me driving home that he was probably pretty lonely, and even more so when i thought about some things he said. I guess money isn't everything after all

Sorry for getting off topic there lol.
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I go to Crown occasionally! They don't have WMS slots :(

Some people are really nice like that. I don't accept either but they can be really persistent and other times can appear a bit offended when I politely reject the offer so I don't know whether to say YAY or NAY ;) Catch 22 :rolleyes:
 
Rick Deckard said:
As I play both mechanical and software roulette, I do observe more repeating numbers with software roulette (I put this repeating anomaly into Lost in Statistics) to which I don't see on live roulette. This could be due to many things like the fewer numbers that are spun and observed in live roulette as it much slower than software based roulette and maybe selective memory plays a part with the subconcious memory or it's possible algorithms actually do emit small runs of observable bias.
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I think you will find that software roulette can adapt to the way you play. For example if you were to play Martingale on red and keep winning, roulette software eventually will give you longer runs of black.
 
krishen said:
I think you will find that software roulette can adapt to the way you play. For example if you were to play Martingale on red and keep winning, roulette software eventually will give you longer runs of black.
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I think you can adapt to the way the software roulette plays, for example if you play and keep winning, keep playing, if you keep losing then stop.
 
dionysus said:
lol, I'm more gobsmacked a roulette strategy thread has run 9 pages.
If it's random (which it should be) aint no such beast as a strategy. You bet, you pray, you win, or you lose. If it isn't random, run.
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I suppose it’s like primates typing on a keyboard for an infinite amount of time they will eventually come up with the entire works of William Shakespeare; I very much doubt they will come up with a roulette strategy though. :)
 
Andy Walker said:
I suppose it’s like primates typing on a keyboard for an infinite amount of time they will eventually come up with the entire works of William Shakespeare; I very much doubt they will come up with a roulette strategy though. :)
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It's not really the same - you could try for infinity but won't beat an unbiased roulette game over the long term as it's impossible. Every monkey will lose - even the insanely lucky ones at the start will end up failing. :)
 
Roller_Jamie said:
It's not really the same - you could try for infinity but won't beat an unbiased roulette game over the long term as it's impossible. Every monkey will lose - even the insanely lucky ones at the start will end up failing. :)
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Perhaps the part of my post that said "I very much doubt they will come up with a roulette strategy though" was lost (forgive the pun) on you? :Angel:
 
The Martingale, the best strategy to play Roulette!!!

1.Find a roulette table with a small minimum bet and a high maximum bet.
2.Bet a small amount on black or red, even or odd, 1-18 or 19-36.
3.If you win, pocket your winnings and bet the same small amount. If you lose, double the amount you last wagered and place the bet on the same color again.
4.If you win on the second bet, collect your winnings and place the original small bet or leave the casino. If you lose again, double your bet and try again.
5.Repeat these steps until you either lose all of your money or you hit the table maximum.
:):)
 
Rachel Charlie said:
1.Find a roulette table with a small minimum bet and a high maximum bet.
2.Bet a small amount on black or red, even or odd, 1-18 or 19-36.
3.If you win, pocket your winnings and bet the same small amount. If you lose, double the amount you last wagered and place the bet on the same color again.
4.If you win on the second bet, collect your winnings and place the original small bet or leave the casino. If you lose again, double your bet and try again.
5.Repeat these steps until you either lose all of your money or you hit the table maximum.
:):)
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you must be new :rolleyes:
 
:what:

Rachel Charlie said:
1.Find a roulette table with a small minimum bet and a high maximum bet.
2.Bet a small amount on black or red, even or odd, 1-18 or 19-36.
3.If you win, pocket your winnings and bet the same small amount. If you lose, double the amount you last wagered and place the bet on the same color again.
4.If you win on the second bet, collect your winnings and place the original small bet or leave the casino. If you lose again, double your bet and try again.
5.Repeat these steps until you either lose all of your money or you hit the table maximum.
:):)
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:eek2::eek::confused::mad::machinegucensored
 
Rachel Charlie said:
1.Find a roulette table with a small minimum bet and a high maximum bet.
2.Bet a small amount on black or red, even or odd, 1-18 or 19-36.
3.If you win, pocket your winnings and bet the same small amount. If you lose, double the amount you last wagered and place the bet on the same color again.
4.If you win on the second bet, collect your winnings and place the original small bet or leave the casino. If you lose again, double your bet and try again.
5.Repeat these steps until you either lose all of your money or you hit the table maximum.
:):)
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Ahhh yes....the arch enemy of the Martingale system....

THE TABLE LIMIT

It's already been gone into more times than Miley Cyrus, so I'm not going there again (on both counts). Google it if you're interested, or if you're happy where you are in LaLa Land, just don't.
 

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