Roshstein outed himself as fake?

[lotusch]

Roshstein has responded to Chipmonkz on Twitter with the following comments.

Try this at N1 yourself, you'll get the same result. I was AFK, got logged out and clicked on a game. I clarified this later on but of course noone talking about that. Thank you.

He is still a turd.

 

[Nicola]

What exactly? That no casino can survive with such streamer? I think we are living example then.

That Roshtein have CAP on withdrawals and get paid % of each cashout? No, I can't confirm it, sorry. I have different records and different statistic in our backend. Yep, I see the numbers in the backend. Yep, when he requests withdrawals we are indeed paying it. Is this something unusual or something in what is really hard to believe?
Seriously, guys, what's the problem? Yep, he playing pretty much HUGE bets. Yes, he withdraws a lot. But once again, until it's profitable for us - I'm okay. If it will become not profitable - it will be the time to do something. As of now - all good (I hope so and our affiliates team are not math dumbs ).

BR,

V.

It would be great if you agree with someone like Bryan or even Rocknrolla to show two key points. The matter would be resolved once and for all right?

1. Roshtein plays with real money
2. Roshtein receives EVERY cent of his withdrawals.

And financials may not be your strong point Homerbert, but trust me all of N1 Interactive Ltd financials are public (if you know where to look) just like every other casino or company operating within the law. I mentioned 32Red and VideoSlots because they have good stable cash flow as an example

 

[Skinupladdy]

Roshtein is very hard on himself and has to deal with haters everytime he streams. The guy is very on point at everything.take a moment to think he knew there was a problem but did he hang the casino no he didn't pro at work.you have it from n1 that he plays with real cash.next thing you will want is to see cash paper.I just think it's bad when your on top as there's always some fucker wanting to get your spot. N1 roshtein even that looks good. Enjoy the weekend now who streaming

 

[homerbert]

Sometimes it looks like I speak with a wall.

I'm pretty much sure it's not last thread about Roshtein. Good luck guys, I still did not saw any real proof that Roshtein himself fake money streamer or something like that. And getting a fact that I know he don't - it's pretty much unbelievable why I'm taking it so much serious and trying to defend him here

Your opinion is your opinions guys, and you deserve to have any. It's okay, no problem.

I wish everyone awesome weekend, and I wish everyone (including myself) to think and care about ourself and close people to you, instead of discussing did one of the guys in the internet have real or not real numbers on his screen. And I'm truly sorry if any of my posts was offensive to anyone - I really do not have any intensions to be rude.

Happy discussing (after two more beer I can't guarantee that I will not start replying here again... )

Br,

V.

 

[Nordog]

I still think its somewhat the best interest for the casino to somehow figure out and explain what happend. Then we will have no speculations. But the answer we get, doesnt really clear roshtein nor the casino. Not to discredit you hombert but anyone can claim they speak the truth, but as it stands now you and the accusers are both doing the same. Both claims their side is the truth, but noone wants to prove anything. Personally i couldnt care less if a streamer plays with real or fake cash aslong as he entertains.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Ah yes! That spawny £50 deposit I made at that fake casino then got that fake 3628x win then made this fake screenshot, fake video and got a fake £7.7k into my fake bank account lol….by the way I managed to get the camera switched on DURING the event, not afterwards. As my video shows.

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I didn't get 6OAK diamonds, it was multiple 5OAK diamonds anyway. I even have my fake video still which you've convinced me I should re-upload. If I don't I'll just have to keep looking at people's 5-reel Shitstorm images instead.

Haha!!! My bad

My memory must be worse than I thought i was sure it was 6 of a kind diamonds!! Shame you didn’t get the actual hit of those diamonds roll in on camera tho.

I know you’ve probably been asked this a hundred times but any chance of the bonanza vids returning??? And in case you didn’t notice my post was somewhat tongue in cheek with regards to this Roshtein nonsense!!

Can’t watch the bloke personally, total noise and clearly not real.

 

[lockinlove]

Sometimes it looks like I speak with a wall.

I'm pretty much sure it's not last thread about Roshtein. Good luck guys, I still did not saw any real proof that Roshtein himself fake money streamer or something like that. And getting a fact that I know he don't - it's pretty much unbelievable why I'm taking it so much serious and trying to defend him here

Your opinion is your opinions guys, and you deserve to have any. It's okay, no problem.

I wish everyone awesome weekend, and I wish everyone (including myself) to think and care about ourself and close people to you, instead of discussing did one of the guys in the internet have real or not real numbers on his screen. And I'm truly sorry if any of my posts was offensive to anyone - I really do not have any intensions to be rude.

Happy discussing (after two more beer I can't guarantee that I will not start replying here again... )

Br,

V.

Hi Homer.

Its not just a random thread to hate roshtein. Something very strange happened while he was in real money and play money that doesnt happen anywhere else.

I have an N1 account and went and messed about I dont see how it would be possible for this to happen.

Also him being AFK doesnt make sense either because your system keeps players logged in over 5 mins I just tested it and from the video I dont see him being away from his keyboard for that amount of time or inactive on the site.

I wont be the one to do the lynching but this looks pretty bad for all of you

You seemed surprised and almost mocking people because they are concerned with something that could be quite serious. In many people minds he is using fake money to entice reckless gambling. I dont think thats funny or should be mocked. I see a very strange thing happen with video evidence so you cant blame others for grabbing their pitch forks here. Especially since we have seen this before from leovegas who defended their brand and ethics and casinorobot until sadly for them, there was video evidence of him logging into a test account.

I still dont understand why N1 and rosh dont just get together and provide info how legit he truly is. The marketing alone you both could get from it would be pretty insane.

gl in here, this is going to be a tough fire to put out given the video evidence and his viewbot use.

 

[colinsunderland]

It would be great if you agree with someone like Bryan or even Rocknrolla to show two key points. The matter would be resolved once and for all right?

1. Roshtein plays with real money
2. Roshtein receives EVERY cent of his withdrawals.

And financials may not be your strong point Homerbert, but trust me all of N1 Interactive Ltd financials are public (if you know where to look) just like every other casino or company operating within the law. I mentioned 32Red and VideoSlots because they have good stable cash flow as an example

With respect, you have claimed theres proof that not to be true. @homerbert has clearly stated you are wrong, so rather than him prove to a third party he is telling the truth, the simple resolution would be you post the evidence he is lying.

 

[SpinUk]

I’d say given the enormous evidence to the contrary and the claims he is legit, some sort of evidence of that fact would be in order, no?

There will be a legal contract of his renumeration relationship with the casino - you can retract/hide the commercially sensitive numbers involved so no risk there, but lets see it.

 

[dunover]

Suppose some casinos could if they wished have a demo balance that stays the same next time you log in.

Ladbrokes MG casino used to do it. You played the demo left and next tie you logged in the demo balance was as you left it. Think you started with £500 and every time you logged in it was as it was when you left it.

LOL... those Viper downloads - even if a player, the tight sods would charge you a tenner or something to recharge your 1000 quid demo balance which you were given when you joined them, once you lost it testing games.

 

[thr0b]

Never heard of the guy. So I took a quick look at that video.

Devil’s advocate - we don’t see or hear him click. He could just as easily have clicked the “live” game first in error, then clicked the demo link. Some browsers don’t register the second click as they’ve already started the network activity to load the first page. Safari being one. There can be a lag between the page updating.

Something odd happened, but it doesn’t look that sinister.

There’s a lot of mountains that once were molehills around here

 

[pocoman]

I've watched Rosh for a while now, I never really thought that he would be using real money to be honest given his insane high rolling amounts - e.g. the other day he did 100e spins on BOD after crashing and burning several 'bullets' as he calls them. Nobody could be gambling that serious amount of 'real' money, losing and behave like Rosh does.

Yesderday's stream, which by the way ended up with a 90k cashout (you can see him cashing out at the end of the stream, all transactions are pending...what will happen to those?!) came on the back of two weeks of huge losses, any sane, real money gambling person losing that amount would surely not carry on or at least have a cooling off period.

I can tell you after watching him for months, his behaviour yesterday when he clicked 'practice', realises what's happened, and thereafter was extremely telling. It's the body language, chat and behaviour of someone who has been caught out red-handed.

This incident really just confirms to me, what I've felt all along, that he has some kind of special account which is pretend money. Will I stop watching him? Probably not - I genuinly find him quite entertaining and it will be interesting to see what happens next.

Questionable ethics by N1 Casino? Almost certainly - and Homerbert's responses in this thread have been nothing short of someone initiating damage control.

 

[Nicola]

With respect, you have claimed theres proof that not to be true. @homerbert has clearly stated you are wrong, so rather than him prove to a third party he is telling the truth, the simple resolution would be you post the evidence he is lying.

The OP and Chopley's post is enough proof something abnormal is going on here. It's up to Homebert to explain what has occured here. I have tried to replicate the real/practice balance thing but with no success.

There was a thread here many months ago (when all these claims were flying around previously) and I posted proof then.

It would be morally wrong of me to post links to peoples financial accounts here, but as I said before it's all public of you know where to look. All Maltese companies by law have to publish annual financials. Even UK streamers publish how much they make to Companies House once a year if they have a registered company.

 

[dunover]

With respect, you have claimed theres proof that not to be true. @homerbert has clearly stated you are wrong, so rather than him prove to a third party he is telling the truth, the simple resolution would be you post the evidence he is lying.

Why? The end result is that the channel is an advertising exercise and the onus is on the advertiser to demonstrate the content is true and as represented to the viewers. I'm not a streamer but I did feel compelled on occasion to show information I didn't really feel comfortable revealing to my subs, but I did. I've even done it in response to the troll/flame post earlier in this thread and the genuine streamers routinely show this info in real-time so there's no possibility it can be pre-prepared and false. I don't watch streamers but I am aware Craigslots, The Bandit, Nickslots, CasinoDaddy have all done this regularly despite their obvious discomfort sometimes.

If you're out in public taking good money from people by selling a product then the onus is on you to satisfy questions as to its integrity, not hide behind anonymity or denial. This can be done without revealing any sensitive info - the viewers all know his name and account name etc. anyway, all they ask is for figures. You don't need N1 Casino to do this, he can do it himself like other streamers do to maintain their credibility. As it stands, the whole affair looks highly off to many, and really it's his stream so his responsibility to clear the matter up.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Ffs I was only joking!!!

 

[colinsunderland]

Why? The end result is that the channel is an advertising exercise and the onus is on the advertiser to demonstrate the content is true and as represented to the viewers. I'm not a streamer but I did feel compelled on occasion to show information I didn't really feel comfortable revealing to my subs, but I did. I've even done it in response to the troll/flame post earlier in this thread and the genuine streamers routinely show this info in real-time so there's no possibility it can be pre-prepared and false. I don't watch streamers but I am aware Craigslots, The Bandit, Nickslots, CasinoDaddy have all done this regularly despite their obvious discomfort sometimes.

If you're out in public taking good money from people by selling a product then the onus is on you to satisfy questions as to its integrity, not hide behind anonymity or denial. This can be done without revealing any sensitive info - the viewers all know his name and account name etc. anyway, all they ask is for figures. You don't need N1 Casino to do this, he can do it himself like other streamers do to maintain their credibility. As it stands, the whole affair looks highly off to many, and really it's his stream so his responsibility to clear the matter up.

Because its almost impossible to prove. If homer posts a screenshot of the casino backend showing transactions, what does that prove? He has admin access so can put what he likes there. Regardless of that, it takes seconds to change the data on a webpage, so again, it wouldn't prove anything.

However, if someone makes accusations against someone then they should be prepared to back it up with evidence, or at least a very reasoned argument. Nicola has stated there is proof showing (essentially) homerbert is lying, whats the problem with it being posted? I've certainly never seen it on here, and I was following previous discussions on this.

 

[dunover]

Ffs I was only joking!!!

I thought you might have been, but given the context of this thread, had to clear it up. Shoulda stuck it in the Bonanza thread mate, to wind Nutnut up.

 

[Nicola]

Because its almost impossible to prove. If homer posts a screenshot of the casino backend showing transactions, what does that prove? He has admin access so can put what he likes there. Regardless of that, it takes seconds to change the data on a webpage, so again, it wouldn't prove anything.

However, if someone makes accusations against someone then they should be prepared to back it up with evidence, or at least a very reasoned argument. Nicola has stated there is proof showing (essentially) homerbert is lying, whats the problem with it being posted? I've certainly never seen it on here, and I was following previous discussions on this.

The only thing I'm 100% sure on is that he does not receive 100% of his winnings. Withdrawals are capped at a certain amount or percentage. This was explained face to face in Amsterdam. At the end of the day, this is an agreement between player and affiliate manager. If the player is happy, great!

Anyway, its Friday night and a Bank Holiday Weekend. Why the fuck are we all sitting here arguing still. Turn off the computer, get drunk with your friends or spend time with the family!

 

[bamberfishcake]

Im sorry ........ but I cant stop chuckling....

Did my answer was bad?

Sometimes it looks like I speak with a wall.

Edit: No insult intended @homerbert just visions of you standing next to a wall whilst speaking the words 'did my answer was bad' have been stuck in my tiny juvenile mind......I am grateful for your interaction in the thread.

 

[Guntis]

Shit like this with the balance can only happen if a player has play money across both demo and real money accounts.

I have heard mention about such specifically designed accounts a while ago from somebody who around 5 years ago used to be top streamer in Russia and now the owner of two online casinos.

 

[nutnut]

The only thing I'm 100% sure on is that he does not receive 100% of his winnings. Withdrawals are capped at a certain amount or percentage. This was explained face to face in Amsterdam. At the end of the day, this is an agreement between player and affiliate manager. If the player is happy, great!

Anyway, its Friday night and a Bank Holiday Weekend. Why the fuck are we all sitting here arguing still. Turn off the computer, get drunk with your friends or spend time with the family!

Then prove it, you started the accusation by stating he was a liar. So you are accusing the rep of being a liar, so you should back that up not divert to go drinking with friends or family. Also since you play slots 8hrs a day I doubt you have time for either so take 5 minutes out those 8hrs to proof the rep is a liar please.

Otherwise it's only you looking bad.

 

[Zyvera]

The only thing I'm 100% sure on is that he does not receive 100% of his winnings. Withdrawals are capped at a certain amount or percentage. This was explained face to face in Amsterdam. At the end of the day, this is an agreement between player and affiliate manager. If the player is happy, great!

Anyway, its Friday night and a Bank Holiday Weekend. Why the fuck are we all sitting here arguing still. Turn off the computer, get drunk with your friends or spend time with the family!

Interesting note that, as I also got some things confirmed face to face in regards to the demo accounts and his deals in Amsterdam at iGB LIVE, though obviously I shall keep that info disclosed.

I have heard mention about such specifically designed accounts a while ago from somebody who around 5 years ago used to be top streamer in Russia and now the owner of two online casinos.

Isn't that the owner of TTR?

 

[Slottery]

Why i went to comment this thread

Wouldn't ever believe how excited people are watching somebody playing slots in an online casino, but it seems to be a very big passion for many when you see this thread grow double speed than that no GS casino i thought was high light of the week but there was actually some valid issue appointed, but here...

Thought always that casinogames and channels in Twitch are O18 years only but if somebody now start to read this and probably dozen other threads around TODAYS HUGE SCANDAL!!! might think different.

I remember that some are having bit complicated and maybe too serious relationship with casino streams but really thought that last one about fake streamers was in thread where subject was named for it. Hope we get 20 pages before morning....

It for sure is really interesting how all cool streamers are playing slots online and seems to love each other's based on few threads here, but was that really serious post that casino should start to proof here for 3rd parties how much somebody is playing there in real and how much not? Would think that most of old enough people who play online casinos would know that it would be "little" bit against any rules to satisfy such a request or can we now go to chat and ask who evers transactions we feel want to know (and who really want to get some proofs how some guy is playing in his Twitch?) just because we want to.

Somebody could use this in studies in university level or somewhere to make to write some hundreds pages "how serious relationship you can build in casino streaming", it's really bit worrying, hope all are ok and know where to get help if this get's too far...

 

[Guntis]

Isn't that the owner of TTR?

That is the one!

 

[colinsunderland]

The only thing I'm 100% sure on is that he does not receive 100% of his winnings. Withdrawals are capped at a certain amount or percentage. This was explained face to face in Amsterdam. At the end of the day, this is an agreement between player and affiliate manager. If the player is happy, great!

Anyway, its Friday night and a Bank Holiday Weekend. Why the fuck are we all sitting here arguing still. Turn off the computer, get drunk with your friends or spend time with the family!

I've searched for the proof, going back over a year and can't find anything posted by you like you say, do you have a link please?

I actually think it's quite important if someone has proof an accredited casino rep is telling members lies, that it is shown. Either the rep is being completely dishonest and certainly shouldn't be a rep any more, or someone is trying to discredit them.