Roshstein outed himself as fake?

[IM_SPORTS]

When I say dodgy, I'm saying it in relation to bigger casinos.
Can you say you trust n1 casino as much as say, LeoVegas? Leovegas is a publically traded company with transparency from top to bottom. Do you know who owns n1 casino?

Irrelevant but let's compare the streets where each company chooses to base itself
Guess which is which.

but n1 is an accredited casino!!

 

[Oscar Arnhem]

He hasn't got a bank account

Get Paid in bananas,oh no that are 2 other streamers

 

[Jono777]

Having thought about this more, the casino or whether the bets are real or not does not come into it for me.

What does bother me are the ridiculous and unrealistic to most bet sizes and sitting there as though 20.00 a spin is nothing, hardly the best tonic for those easily influenced, up and coming potential addicts and the inexperienced.

Some may say don't watch then and I personally won't but those who need their 'fix' no matter how will see this as the norm which is not good at all.

Only a tip but maybe N1 should revisit the terms of the next streamer contract and keep the agreed bet sizes realistic and believable!

 

[Alqupon]

I think there is no fake money issue. Rather he has a cash-back agreement with the casino (for both sides). So at the end of a mnth he may end up with some 5 digit max. surplus per month + the affiliation shares. This way nothing the N1 rep said would be untrue.

I guess other big streams have similar agreements.

 

[goatwack]

Having thought about this more, the casino or whether the bets are real or not does not come into it for me.

What does bother me are the ridiculous and unrealistic to most bet sizes and sitting there as though 20.00 a spin is nothing, hardly the best tonic for those easily influenced, up and coming potential addicts and the inexperienced.

Some may say don't watch then and I personally won't but those who need their 'fix' no matter how will see this as the norm which is not good at all.

Only a tip but maybe N1 should revisit the terms of the next streamer contract and keep the agreed bet sizes realistic and believable!

So how we gonna get the sick hits bruh

 

[Jono777]

So how we gonna get the sick hits bruh

erm, let me get back to you on that one.....

Initial thoughts for our stakes, there is DoA II, erm, the sequel to DoA, erm, erm that alive or dead thing, you know the 2nd one they made.....

 

[sufferinsilence]

Has he addressed this 'oversight' in his videos yet? I like myself a good cringey apology video

From what I gathered he streamed yesterday and then decided to take a break.

 

[EkJR]

From what I gathered he streamed yesterday and then decided to take a break.

Coward. I actually don't really care if real or not, he is promoting completely irresponsible gambling regularly. The casinos like N1 and TheyWhoShaltNotBeNamed arent doing their reputations any good in my mind with allowing a guy who thinks 50 euro spins are acceptable and promoting this to potential casino players.

 

[colinsunderland]

When I say dodgy, I'm saying it in relation to bigger casinos.
Can you say you trust n1 casino as much as say, LeoVegas? Leovegas is a publically traded company with transparency from top to bottom. Do you know who owns n1 casino?

Irrelevant but let's compare the streets where each company chooses to base itself
Guess which is which.

I've seen a lot more complaints on here about LV group then I have about N1. Obviously the customer base will mean there are more, but the SE complaints in particular that they get are pretty bad.
N1 payout quicker too.

 

[Nordog]

Didnt leo vegas have fake streamers too in the past? So by this logic leo vegas isnt anything better. Leo vegas did admit it even, so that case was proven.

 

[alcatraz]

but n1 is an accredited casino!!

Yes its accredited, and whats the point? Do you think that a casino which is accredited will be out of the line of fire when it comes up to things like the current issue discussed?

Nothing is carved in stones, especially in the gambling world.

 

[colinsunderland]

Yes its accredited, and whats the point? Do you think that a casino which is accredited will be out of the line of fire when it comes up to things like the current issue discussed?

Nothing is carved in stones, especially in the gambling world.

I think the point is, someone was saying N1 are a dodgy casino, not that they can't have questions asked about stuff like this.

 

[homerbert]

Hey @IM_SPORTS

Since you're from UK, and we do not accept UK customers, how in the world you can say that casino is 'dodgy' if you never even played in this casino? We had a serious problems with reputation? I was away for a long time and missed something? We are accredited, therefore I'm kindly ask you to respect our brand and our team. You never played with us, AFAIK there are no open issues with our brand here...So?

Also (please take it as VERY friendly question, no offences please) why in the world you think we need to prove / show / reply on something in terms when people just posting their thoughts that someone is playing with fake money? I thought I was really clear - Roshtein do not play with fake money, he do not have any test account, and I can confirm that his account is completely same as any other customer in our casino. If you can prove opposite - please post the proofs, I really will be glad to see it.

And in regards to 'it's not responsible to play such bets etc etc etc'. Guys, seriously, come on.. I can't afford the bets and deposits he made too, for example. But he can afford. He is okay with such bets. And if he want to make such bets, make such deposits, he can afford it - why you guys telling that he can't do it? He can't be a streamer-highroller? Why? Why you trying to restrict anyone doing anything which is not illegal? I can't afford a lot of things in the world, but I will never blame a people who can afford something I can't. Why should I?

You can continue with your statements, we are okay.

BR,

V.

 

[alcatraz]

I think dodgy is way overboard, but unethecial.... yes.

 

[homerbert]

I think dodgy is way overboard, but unethecial.... yes.

For allowing people play with a stakes they want? HOW RUDE IS THAT!!!!

Br,

V.

 

[alcatraz]

For allowing people play with a stakes they want? HOW RUDE IS THAT!!!!

Br,

V.

No, for agreeing to such business relations. My casino refrains from affiliations with streamers. I am never depositing below 500-1000€ for a session. You think a withdraw limit of 15k per month is attractive to high rollers btw.?

Please be real. Ethical business practice would involve not to cooperate with those guys to lure in less experienced guys. Sorry but this is not business, its just "who is the biggest fish in the tank" routine which i know by your "comrades".

 

[lotusch]

Sorry Homer I respect you and you are a nice bloke and I do play at N1 myself, without any problems ever!
It is the fact that you guys facilitate a player that completely lost the plot in responsible gambling terms and streams it all over the world wide web as if it is just candy he is playing with.
I feel NO casino should facilitate such sick gambling behaviour and make it available to the world, which also means the young and vulnerable people or people that maybe have or will develop a gambling addiction.

Most casinos pride themselves in saying they are all for responsible gambling, this however has NOTHING to do with responsible gambling in any way.

You are right, some people can afford bet sizes like this and it happens every day in casinos online and in b&m casinos and sure let highrollers be highrollers but to openly advertise this as if it was a normal thing is a bridge or two to far for me.

It encourages addiction and destruction beyond repair.

And to be clear @homerbert , I have no issues with your casino and always have been paid very fast and as such I am a happy customer.

I just condone having people like Rosh as a marketing tool for your casino.

I watch streamers, not often but I follow some, and they play just like me €0.50-€2.00 bets which is completely fine.
I can relate to these people and seem genuine a.f.a.i.k but 50 quid a pop? Insane.

 

[Nicola]

I think it needs pointing out here that N1 is a good casino with little or no complaints across this site or other respectable forums. N1 was accredited for a reason, they passed a baptism of fire flawlessly.

I stand by my comments made in the BoF thread. I played here (from Malta), they paid me fast and support was higher than average.

And those making comments about they are dodgy NV licences, have you actually checked the site? They are licenced by the MGA.

Whilst there is an issue with what happened in the Roshtein video and other claims, it's unfair to say N1 is corrupt or dodgy. Simpy isn't true.

 

[EkJR]

Hey @IM_SPORTS

Since you're from UK, and we do not accept UK customers, how in the world you can say that casino is 'dodgy' if you never even played in this casino? We had a serious problems with reputation? I was away for a long time and missed something? We are accredited, therefore I'm kindly ask you to respect our brand and our team. You never played with us, AFAIK there are no open issues with our brand here...So?

Also (please take it as VERY friendly question, no offences please) why in the world you think we need to prove / show / reply on something in terms when people just posting their thoughts that someone is playing with fake money? I thought I was really clear - Roshtein do not play with fake money, he do not have any test account, and I can confirm that his account is completely same as any other customer in our casino. If you can prove opposite - please post the proofs, I really will be glad to see it.

And in regards to 'it's not responsible to play such bets etc etc etc'. Guys, seriously, come on.. I can't afford the bets and deposits he made too, for example. But he can afford. He is okay with such bets. And if he want to make such bets, make such deposits, he can afford it - why you guys telling that he can't do it? He can't be a streamer-highroller? Why? Why you trying to restrict anyone doing anything which is not illegal? I can't afford a lot of things in the world, but I will never blame a people who can afford something I can't. Why should I?

You can continue with your statements, we are okay.

BR,

V.

And you feel it is responsible for the guy to stream attracting people to your casino at 50 euros a spin simply because he has built up a significant following? Its shameful actually. You clearly don't see it from that point, people will inevitably try and copy him especially those easily influenced and there are lots out there!

 

[EkJR]

I think it needs pointing out here that N1 is a good casino with little or no complaints across this site or other respectable forums. N1 was accredited for a reason, they passed a baptism of fire flawlessly.

I stand by my comments made in the BoF thread. I played here (from Malta), they paid me fast and support was higher than average.

And those making comments about they are dodgy NV licences, have you actually checked the site? They are licenced by the MGA.

Whilst there is an issue with what happened in the Roshtein video and other claims, it's unfair to say N1 is corrupt or dodgy. Simpy isn't true.

Unethical imo. Anyone who has that bellend streaming his high stakes stuff, openly encouraging players to sign up to said casinos and normalising high stakes gambling is not a casino I would like to be in cahoots with.

 

[alcatraz]

I feel NO casino should facilitate such sick gambling behaviour and make it available to the world, which also means the young and vulnerable people or people that maybe have or will develop a gambling addiction.

Most casinos pride themselves in saying they are all for responsible gambling, this however has NOTHING to do with responsible gambling in any way.

Exacly that. Its just questionable, not dodgy at all.

 

[alcatraz]

Unethical imo. Anyone who has that bellend streaming his high stakes stuff, openly encouraging players to sign up to said casinos and normalising high stakes gambling is not a casino I would like to be in cahoots with.

Yes, and moreover. Thats not a "business" as they like to claim. Its just going after the low hanging fruits.

 

[Nicola]

Unethical imo. Anyone who has that bellend streaming his high stakes stuff, openly encouraging players to sign up to said casinos and normalising high stakes gambling is not a casino I would like to be in cahoots with.

He's not alone though. TheBandit is British, does £40 spins and deposits £105,000 in 6 hours on video and plays at VideoSlots and Casumo, does that mean you should avoid playing at those casinos too?

I see your point on normalising high stakes, but if the player can afford it and is comfortable with those stakes then why should it reflect on the casino?

Every casino has high-rollers, I know players who do £200 spins on NetEnt games because they can afford to. Forum folk like us only see a very small number of these high stake players yet we jump on and attack them.

 

[Lobo]

Well, after seing the video... at least we can all agree on one thing: something was (is) VERY wrong with N1 and/or Rosh's account.

My guess is that the drunk N1-representativ splashin around in this thread, really (like REALLY) don't have access to deals and deeper insight of Rosh's account, and for HIM Rosh's account looks like and ordinary degen account. He is just a messenger doing his job on this forum.

I've been gambling for many years, and I have never ever experienced something close to simalar what happened in the video.

SKÅL!

 

[EkJR]

He's not alone though. TheBandit is British, does £40 spins and deposits £105,000 in 6 hours on video and plays at VideoSlots and Casumo, does that mean you should avoid playing at those casinos too?

I see your point on normalising high stakes, but if the player can afford it and is comfortable with those stakes then why should it reflect on the casino?

Every casino has high-rollers, I know players who do £200 spins on NetEnt games because they can afford to. Forum folk like us only see a very small number of these high stake players yet we jump on and attack them.

The Bandit is a bit different as he tends to play lower stakes and then go completely mental on the odd occasion on Reel King and Danger. This isn't the whole stream, normally plays around 2-3quid a spin. Who knows, hasn't played at VS for a while so maybe they weren't impressed by him!

Well if Roshtein is that way then he can do it all he likes, but not day after day to audiences on YouTube, particularly as there could be kids and vulnerable people watching. Yes, it will be of interest to some, but to a significant number it is normalising high stakes gambling on a regular basis.

 

[Borgie]

Well, after seing the video... at least we can all agree on one thing: something was (is) VERY wrong with N1 and/or Rosh's account.

My guess is that the drunk N1-representativ splashin around in this thread, really (like REALLY) don't have access to deals and deeper insight of Rosh's account, and for HIM Rosh's account looks like and ordinary degen account. He is just a messenger doing his job on this forum.

I've been gambling for many years, and I have never ever experienced something close to simalar what happened in the video.

SKÅL!

Totally out of order. The rep is not drunk. English not first language but perfectly understandable .

 

[sueyh]

Also (please take it as VERY friendly question, no offences please) why in the world you think we need to prove / show / reply on something in terms when people just posting their thoughts that someone is playing with fake money?

Actually people is not just posting their thoughts.
They posted the evidence that he uses fake money, and we didn't see anything so far that explain how it happened from you.

Your casino group is not dodgy, but how you handle this is kinda dodgy IMO.

 

[paul7388]

Well, after seing the video... at least we can all agree on one thing: something was (is) VERY wrong with N1 and/or Rosh's account.

My guess is that the drunk N1-representativ splashin around in this thread, really (like REALLY) don't have access to deals and deeper insight of Rosh's account, and for HIM Rosh's account looks like and ordinary degen account. He is just a messenger doing his job on this forum.

I've been gambling for many years, and I have never ever experienced something close to simalar what happened in the video.

SKÅL!

Well first of all as has been discussed that video was inconclusive to say the least so not everyone agrees with you.

The drunk Rep splashin around as you put it is is exactly who he says he is.

 

[Lobo]

Totally out of order. The rep is not drunk. English not first language but perfectly understandable .

He said a couple times yesterday he was drinking beer while answering, but never mind - I have edited my post

 

[Nicola]

He said a couple times yesterday he was drinking beer while answering, but never mind - I have edited my post

This forum was built on beer remember

 

[Kroffe]

The Bandit is a bit different as he tends to play lower stakes and then go completely mental on the odd occasion on Reel King and Danger. This isn't the whole stream, normally plays around 2-3quid a spin. Who knows, hasn't played at VS for a while so maybe they weren't impressed by him!

Well if Roshtein is that way then he can do it all he likes, but not day after day to audiences on YouTube, particularly as there could be kids and vulnerable people watching. Yes, it will be of interest to some, but to a significant number it is normalising high stakes gambling on a regular basis.

Used to watch some of his videos before alot of them turned into high stakes crazy gambling.
Had a quick look at his site to see if things had changed, and 4 out of 10 videos are advertised as high-stake ones.
So its not just the odd occasion it seems, more like a regular thing.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

For allowing people play with a stakes they want? HOW RUDE IS THAT!!!!

Br,

V.

With all due respect, have you ever been part of the twitch gambling community? Well I have, and moderated for casino streamers there.

Let me tell you this, there are people there that have ruined their lives gambling, there are people watching who have nothing, people who have self excluded and need their 'fix'. There are people there who have spilled their hearts out to me over private message. Your company is the one that is using a guy playing 50 Euro bets to publicise your casino and facilitating sign ups to people who are watching someone who, quite frankly, makes it seem like you can get rich by going down this route.

Then we see said streamer open a demo version of a game which proceeds to load his 'real' money balance, only for you to proclaim you see nothing wrong with this.

So, you see nothing wrong from a responsible gambling perspective and you see nothing wrong with a demo version of a game loading up a real play balance? This is the gist of it is it not?

 

[homerbert]

Actually people is not just posting their thoughts.
They posted the evidence that he uses fake money, and we didn't see anything so far that explain how it happened from you.

Your casino group is not dodgy, but how you handle this is kinda dodgy IMO.

First of all @Borgie - thank you. Not sure how to reply on an things like rep is 'drunk'...Well, I know, but I'll breach forum rules

@sueyh I'm trying to say another time - why do you guys think we need to prove something? Like it was mentioned by me and some other people here - I can see our backend and all transactions. I also can see amount of money we generate from Rosh players...It's ok guys, we are OK. If someone really hopes I will be weak to post anything from our backend or doing anything like posting proofs - you must be crazy guys. Basically, it's about Roshtein and community, and I'm not going to fight this war for him.

What I'm trying to say once, once and another time again - I can confirm that at N1 casino (I can speak only from our properties) - he play with real money, he do not have any 'test account', he do not have anything specific except high deposit bonuses. You can agree, you can disagree. But if you post some strong words - please just provide proofs.

BR,

V.

 

[homerbert]

With all due respect, have you ever been part of the twitch gambling community? Well I have, and moderated for casino streamers there.

Let me tell you this, there are people there that have ruined their lives gambling, there are people watching who have nothing, people who have self excluded and need their 'fix'. There are people there who have spilled their hearts out to me over private message. Your company is the one that is using a guy playing 50 Euro bets to publicise your casino and facilitating sign ups to people who are watching someone who, quite frankly, makes it seem like you can get rich by going down this route.

Then we see said streamer open a demo version of a game which proceeds to load his 'real' money balance, only for you to proclaim you see nothing wrong with this.

So, you see nothing wrong from a responsible gambling perspective and you see nothing wrong with a demo version of a game loading up a real play balance? This is the gist of it is it not?

Hey mate!

With all due respect, have you ever been a part of N1 casino team? We do not have a huge problem with this 'error'. We never get any report from any of our customers that FUN play is working as REAL play. Please tell me, do you really think that after this thread our team did not tested everything what is possible in this case?! Seriously, no one was able to repeat this error, and what we got from developer is 'please show developer console'. Which is not possible since we can't reproduce

Gambling can't make you rich. There is no way to do this. It's pure mathematics and nothing else (except for a few exceptions of course). Please show me where N1 casino team directly telling that gambling can make you rich, or gambling is a way to fix any your financial problems. I promise you if something like this happened / will happen - responsible people will have problems.

It's simple. Roshtein can afford this bets. Roshtein wants to stream his gameplay. And if we will tell him - hey, you are not allowed to do this - it will be something wrong with us. If he wants - he can. He do not breach any rules / laws. We know (well at least from our brand) how much he earns - and he can afford it. Deal with it guys.

Br,

V.

 

[Oscar Arnhem]

he do not have anything specific except high deposit bonuses.

What about the 15k max cashout a month?

 

[homerbert]

What about the 15k max cashout a month?

good try.

From our terms:

1. Maximum withdrawal amount processed to any given player is 5000 €/$ per week and 15000 €/$ per month since the last cashout, unless otherwise specified in the promotional Terms and Conditions where exceptions can be made to players with a higher VIP status.

And comment to anyone next post - 'it works only for Roshtein'.

During August more than 20 people got higher withdrawal limits (I will not post exact details) by my approval.

You should understand that if people playing high stakes - we are ready to increase withdrawal limits. It's okay for us since luckily nowadays we do not have any problems with cashflow.

15k is way too low I guess, we will make 25k soon then.

Br,

V.

 

[Oscar Arnhem]

good try.

It was just a question

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Please show me where N1 casino team directly telling that gambling can make you rich, or gambling is a way to fix any your financial problems. I promise you if something like this happened / will happen - responsible people will have problems.

You know as well as I do that I never mentioned N1 casino team suggesting that gambling can make you rich.

Rosh represents your casino. Therefore by proxy whilst he's affiliated with you, his actions reflect directly on you. This isn't hard to understand. You're paying him to advertise your casino are you not?

People raise legitimate concerns about operations RE this particular streamer or 'mode of advertisement' we'll call it, and you turn around and say 'deal with it'.

Some of these people you're telling to 'deal with it' will be customers that are paying your wages and keeping your business solvent!

 

[paul7388]

Foreign casino, Foreign player Nothing to do with UKGC.

SO not breaking rules what stakes he plays and if he is breaking twitch rules then let them deal with it.

I Hardly see that he is causing problems for gambling addicts. If they are addicts and loosing all the time why would they suddenely feel betting crazy stakes would get them their money after a stream. These players know how toxic gambling can be. And anyone that thinks those stakes will win me my money back will probably have tried it anyway.

But like i said if people are like that and never knew about Roshtein or other streamers CM is giving them on e hell a lot of free publicity.

But where do we stop. There are many screenshots showing huge wins on £10 a bet and higher on here. Also seems to be more excluded members than ever before. So surely that would appeal the same. Oh they just won £10,000 on a £10 stake and did it yesterday. Maybe we should try that and win a way out of our troubles.

 

[alcatraz]

It's simple. Roshtein can afford this bets. Roshtein wants to stream his gameplay. And if we will tell him - hey, you are not allowed to do this - it will be something wrong with us. If he wants - he can. He do not breach any rules / laws. We know (well at least from our brand) how much he earns - and he can afford it. Deal with it guys.

Br,

V.

And exacly this sentence qualifies your casino as questionable in terms of ethical business operations and "responsible gambling" standards.

Deal with it!

 

[EkJR]

Hey mate!

With all due respect, have you ever been a part of N1 casino team? We do not have a huge problem with this 'error'. We never get any report from any of our customers that FUN play is working as REAL play. Please tell me, do you really think that after this thread our team did not tested everything what is possible in this case?! Seriously, no one was able to repeat this error, and what we got from developer is 'please show developer console'. Which is not possible since we can't reproduce

Gambling can't make you rich. There is no way to do this. It's pure mathematics and nothing else (except for a few exceptions of course). Please show me where N1 casino team directly telling that gambling can make you rich, or gambling is a way to fix any your financial problems. I promise you if something like this happened / will happen - responsible people will have problems.

It's simple. Roshtein can afford this bets. Roshtein wants to stream his gameplay. And if we will tell him - hey, you are not allowed to do this - it will be something wrong with us. If he wants - he can. He do not breach any rules / laws. We know (well at least from our brand) how much he earns - and he can afford it. Deal with it guys.

Br,

V.

And you make money from this as his community is based on his incredibly irresponsible stakes through streaming creating further irresponsible gamers directed to your site. Good to see ethics is alive and well at N1..

 

[EkJR]

good try.

From our terms:



And comment to anyone next post - 'it works only for Roshtein'.

During August more than 20 people got higher withdrawal limits (I will not post exact details) by my approval.

You should understand that if people playing high stakes - we are ready to increase withdrawal limits. It's okay for us since luckily nowadays we do not have any problems with cashflow.

15k is way too low I guess, we will make 25k soon then.

Br,

V.

Of those 20 how many stream daily to twitch and YouTube on these high stakes?

 

[EkJR]

Foreign casino, Foreign player Nothing to do with UKGC.

SO not breaking rules what stakes he plays and if he is breaking twitch rules then let them deal with it.

I Hardly see that he is causing problems for gambling addicts. If they are addicts and loosing all the time why would they suddenely feel betting crazy stakes would get them their money after a stream. These players know how toxic gambling can be. And anyone that thinks those stakes will win me my money back will probably have tried it anyway.

But like i said if people are like that and never knew about Roshtein or other streamers CM is giving them on e hell a lot of free publicity.

But where do we stop. There are many screenshots showing huge wins on £10 a bet and higher on here. Also seems to be more excluded members than ever before. So surely that would appeal the same. Oh they just won £10,000 on a £10 stake and did it yesterday. Maybe we should try that and win a way out of our troubles.

Mate, kids can watch his streams. People who look at these videos and think "oh this looks easy". His big win videos are littered all over the place. Its absolute crack cocaine stuff for some people. It is irresponsible, end of story.

 

[paul7388]

Mate, kids can watch his streams. People who look at these videos and think "oh this looks easy". His big win videos are littered all over the place. Its absolute crack cocaine stuff for some people. It is irresponsible, end of story.

This forum is littered with screenshots of high wins on high stakes.

That would also be classed as irresponsible. where do we stop and draw a line.

Personally i do not see the need for streams.

Maybe best think UKGC could do would be to ban casinos from using affiiates to get sign ups in first place. Would never work and probably something they could not legally do.

But then subject would change from poor gamblers too poor affiliates.

 

[sueyh]

I'm trying to say another time - why do you guys think we need to prove something? Like it was mentioned by me and some other people here - I can see our backend and all transactions. I also can see amount of money we generate from Rosh players...It's ok guys, we are OK. If someone really hopes I will be weak to post anything from our backend or doing anything like posting proofs - you must be crazy guys. Basically, it's about Roshtein and community, and I'm not going to fight this war for him.

I don't ask you to prove he uses real money, I certainly don't expect you to fight for him.What I am asking is an explanation about how it happened, if it is a glitch, as a casino rep I believe you have a duty to contact the game provider to figure out about the glitch?

If it is not a glitch, that means it is a real evidence that he uses fun money and lie to people, and if that is the case the casino should terminate the relationship with him?

You can see many posts here where people report some kind of glitch on a game, and a casino rep promise to contact the game provider to check on the glitch-and real money balance showing on fun mode is way more serious glitch than the game got frozen etc.-Players can lose their real balance by playing fun mode.

You also can see a few posts about the casino reps promise to take some action if there is any report about dodgy affiliates.

I'm just wondering why you decide to ignore this matter.
Whether it is a glitch or it is an evidence of dodgy affiliates, the reputable casino would take some action, that's all I'm saying.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Good morning keyboard warriors!

I see the pitchforks are out again! Guess Christmas is not coming yet.

The funny part is that there are so many newbies who probably just signed up to post in this thread. Happened with every streamer/Rohstein thread, so I guess some of them are doing this on purpose or carry some beef with the streamer.


@sueyh Homebert has posted that they were not able to reproduce the issue.

 

[trancemonkey]

For allowing people play with a stakes they want? HOW RUDE IS THAT!!!!

Br,

V.

Nice to see N1 casino defending something that is the exact opposite of responsible gambling.

Sorry, but I can't let this pass....

The fact he can afford to do it is irrelevant, and you should be well aware of your responsibility to RG. His bet sizes are unrealistic and are likely to cause problem gambling.... this is undeniable. And yet you deny it.

As a member of the industry, it is my duty to promote responsible gambling. And it is yours too.

I cannot believe for one second that a responsible regulator would be happy with your sponsorship of someone clearly gambling at levels only 1% or less of the world could dream of. Not only that, but you give him terms and conditions that no one else can get, and again this perpetuates the myth of gambling that others can get.

It is wholly irresponsible, and your replies show your lack of responsibility, and lack of care.

"Its legal, shut up" is not a good response.

In terms of balance and fairness, I should just add that it's not entirely fair to just pick on N1 here. There are other streamers betting bigger than I would argue is responsible, including on occasion RocknRolla, NickSlots, etc...

For me, any responsible casino that is actively promoting through streamers, should make sure said streamers limit their bet sizes, before (probably) regulators get involved and do something even more stupid.

 

[trancemonkey]

This forum is littered with screenshots of high wins on high stakes.

That would also be classed as irresponsible. where do we stop and draw a line.

Personally i do not see the need for streams.

Maybe best think UKGC could do would be to ban casinos from using affiiates to get sign ups in first place. Would never work and probably something they could not legally do.

But then subject would change from poor gamblers too poor affiliates.

I would argue, probably badly, that screenshots are nowhere near as dangerous as watching someone like Roshstein, whose reactions and general demeanor are a huge part of the problem.

 

[EkJR]

This forum is littered with screenshots of high wins on high stakes.

That would also be classed as irresponsible. where do we stop and draw a line.

Personally i do not see the need for streams.

Maybe best think UKGC could do would be to ban casinos from using affiiates to get sign ups in first place. Would never work and probably something they could not legally do.

But then subject would change from poor gamblers too poor affiliates.

Yeah, but the exposure the screenshots here get compared to his daily streaming of huge stakes gambling is night and day. I get what your saying btw, but this kind of gambling would cross any line imo.

 

[slotter999]

Nice to see N1 casino defending something that is the exact opposite of responsible gambling.

Sorry, but I can't let this pass....

The fact he can afford to do it is irrelevant, and you should be well aware of your responsibility to RG. His bet sizes are unrealistic and are likely to cause problem gambling.... this is undeniable. And yet you deny it.

As a member of the industry, it is my duty to promote responsible gambling. And it is yours too.

As a member of the industry that creates slot games - you state that those bet sizes are likely to cause problem gambling. So what bet size do you limit the slots games that you produce to?