Roshstein outed himself as fake?

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Haha literally two minutes ago someone sent me the link to this.

Certainly got himself in a flap didn't he...

No doubt we'll have someone coming along saying it was a technical error blah blah. I've never had demo play show my 'real' balance though in 8 years of slotting!
 

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It's always been known he uses view bots, but I didn't know about fake money. The thing is, if the casino is providing bonus funds with a limit on what he can be paid in withdrawals, is it fake, real or somewhere in between? Or is this something else altogether?
 

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@homerbert explicitly stated in this forum that Roshtein uses real money at N1 casino (I assume he represents the casino in some way).

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As I said in another thread last week, some people would tell you black was white where money/business is involved.
 

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Haha literally two minutes ago someone sent me the link to this.

Certainly got himself in a flap didn't he...

No doubt we'll have someone coming along saying it was a technical error blah blah. I've never had demo play show my 'real' balance though in 8 years of slotting!
I actually had the opposite happen at Trada once, where a fresh deposit on The Rapist was made, went back to the game recycled the balance via the button on the black bar and carried on, and about 2 minutes later I realized that somehow I'd been auto logged out and instead of playing £1.20 spins I was in fact playing 40p spin off of a £1000 balance the default demo setting! I only noticed because I had a bonus guarantee feature and thought how the **** can my winnings only be £4 off a £1.20 stake.....
 

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I actually had the opposite happen at Trada once, where a fresh deposit on The Rapist was made, went back to the game recycled the balance via the button on the black bar and carried on, and about 2 minutes later I realized that somehow I'd been auto logged out and instead of playing £1.20 spins I was in fact playing 40p spin off of a £1000 balance the default demo setting! I only noticed because I had a bonus guarantee feature and thought how the **** can my winnings only be £4 off a £1.20 stake.....

Haha yeah that's quite a common one.

Whole different kettle of fish having your 'real play' balance open in demo though :laugh:

Any normal reaction if it was an error would be 'wtf, why is my real play balance showing in demo' Not a look of complete fear and a quick close down of the screen as if to say 'oh shit' lol.
 

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Has anyone got an account at N1 Casino they can quickly test this with? Just replicate what Roshtein did and see what happens?

1) Close Gonzo's Quest in real money play, make a note of your balance.
2) Open Rise Of Merlin in Practice mode, do you see your real balance, or a demo balance?
3) Open Victorious, do you see the same balance noted in Step 1?
 

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Any normal reaction if it was an error would be 'wtf, why is my real play balance showing in demo' Not a look of complete fear and a quick close down of the screen as if to say 'oh shit' lol.

Exactly! I dont know enough to know what the hell is going on but I know a little about human behaviour and the body language says a lot to me....
 

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This week its all been going of. (Streamers Exposed DVD) Coming soon.....Also available in 4K :D

No but in all seriousness it makes me sick the lows these scumbags stoop to achieve monetary gain. Do these people even have morals? Seems not. As long as they can milk money out of the vunerable as quick as possible thats all they care about.

Most of these streamers are NOT even real gamblers but just people that jumped on the bandwagon when they realised how easy a quick buck could be made. Thats what really pisses me of when they try advise the viewer about casinos and slots when they themselfs have no clue what there talking about. Its obvious to spot the gamblers who stream compared to the scam artists that put on an act to fool viewers to fatten there pockets. I can see it a mile away within minutes of watching them. Just my 2 cents!
 

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Has anyone got an account at N1 Casino they can quickly test this with? Just replicate what Roshtein did and see what happens?

1) Close Gonzo's Quest in real money play, make a note of your balance.
2) Open Rise Of Merlin in Practice mode, do you see your real balance, or a demo balance?
3) Open Victorious, do you see the same balance noted in Step 1?

Already been done choppers, The guy who made the original article then made an account at the same casino to test the theory, did the same exact steps. And what a surprise didnt have the same outcome as our friend Roshstein did
 

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Yes I've seen that video, but for completeness I'd like to see the exact steps that Roshtein performed be replicated. If needs be I'll sign up to the casino myself and test it.
 

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Hey guys. Just to confirm - roshtein playing with real money at N1 casino. And from what I know - it's impossible to somehow show play money and real money. At least at N1.

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So how did his balance stay exactly the same when he went from real money play, to demo play, and back to real money play again?

I've seen that before at any online casino. Ever.
 

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OK, I've just watched the video (I knew about the viewbots a while ago) and it does seem pretty damning. I know streamers and vloggers get accusations, trolls, cynicism - that's all part and parcel of being in public view or providing content. The fact the real balance is carried to a demo game is impossible unless you're running fake software (this isn't fake) OR by design.

As you may know (not UK IP's any longer) I post video reviews and written reviews of upcoming slots and this includes putting in urls' for visitors to play the demo games. They have different codes from real play url's and the game server/aggregator cannot mix demo and real play up as a result, for obvious reasons.

I cannot see any other explanation here (I haven't got time to be more expansive right now as I've left a task to type this) but the fact the casino interface has been set-up to mean a demo balance can be transferred from slot-to-slot. The casino has the means to do this as you'll all know when for example they identify balances as bonus or withdrawable cash or want to load free spins into their system on certain games. This has all the hallmarks of a specially-integrated account set up for R********n for advertising purposes.

Obviously I anticipate more detailed information from maybe casino reps, @trancemonkey etc. who can explain it better than me. Luckily I have numerous contacts with many developers and they should be able to confirm the facts regarding this and explain exactly how this can be possible.
 

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This will end up the greatest mystery of our times

Although as we know, Twitch itself is more bent than Right Said Fred

For sure, just requested to have my Christmas holiday already to be able follow up on this more closely :) Was bit disappointed when while ago there was already last game money streamer thread, but so excited it wasn't :)
 
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