[Rogue] Palace Of Chance Safe?

[alwaysrivered]

So i had used a free chip but couldnt cash out because i had used two in a row. well, ok thats acceptable. Then a rep called and asked me to deposit. i said ok so i deposited 25$ and they gave me like 93 in my account. then i started reading about them. crap. Ayway, i now have over 500 in the account that i won playing blackjack. Seemed too easy. Now i want to cash out. I dont have my hopes up that i will be able to. I am jsut concerned about sending them all the information required to cash out. They need a photo copy of credit card, ID, bank statement and a trace of my CC. It seems extreme. Is it a bad idea to send them that info? Should i jsut accept a 25$ loss? Or would it be safe to send that info and try to get money back?

Oh and now i see an email that says thanks for a deposit to Cirrus casino... Which i never agreed too. But i know its part of the same group. Did they jsut steal my money??

 

[silcnlayc]

Did they jsut steal my money??

No, you just pretty much gave it to them in a donation...

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[chayton]

The chances are very slim that you'll see any money from them. I occasionally see a post where someone gets paid after a month or two and lots of phone calls and emails, but usually not. That whole group has this 'rule' about if they've given you more free chips than you've deposited, you don't get to withdraw. That's why they hand out free chips so much. So since you've used 2 free chips and they gave you a bonus and only deposited $25, I believe they'll probably use it as an excuse not to pay you. But first they'll string you along for awhile and try to get you to deposit again.

 

[maxd]

Strongly suggest you wander by the Rogue Pit and have a look there. POC is listed under the Virtual Casino Group, "Worst Casino Group 2007".

And yes, in all probability, they did just pocket your cash.

 

[alwaysrivered]

hmm i see. Well my main question is , is it worth a try? Or would giving them more of my information be risky?

 

[LaurieJim]

hmm i see. Well my main question is , is it worth a try? Or would giving them more of my information be risky?

If you like giving your hard earned money to a bunch of crooks, go right ahead, you will not get paid and then you will be back here crying bloody murder, consider this a strong plea to trash that whole group in the shit can and find yourself a better class of casino with a better class of folks running it..................these folks are as sorry as sorry can get and will steal you freaking blind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...............laurie........jeeze

 

[bryand]

hmm i see. Well my main question is , is it worth a try? Or would giving them more of my information be risky?

I don't recall seeing a thread here accusing Virtual of identity theft hence you'll probably be ok in that regard. Just know it is most likely a big waste of time.

 

[bb28]

Actually there have been posts in the past of people complaining of unauthorized charges showing up on their CC, and it did happen to me a long, long time ago, so if I were you, I would not chance it by giving them any personal info. Just my 2 cents.

 

[LaurieJim]

I don't recall seeing a thread here accusing Virtual of identity theft hence you'll probably be ok in that regard. Just know it is most likely a big waste of time.

I sure wouldnt trust them with any info of any kind

 

[KasinoKing]

hmm i see. Well my main question is , is it worth a try? Or would giving them more of my information be risky?

Don't give them ANYTHING! They are the worst of the worst online casino CROOKS!

If this is one of your first online casino experiences, please do not be put off - there are many 100's of reputable, honest & trustworthy casinos on the net, and only a few dozen out-and-out rogues. You have been unlucky to get trapped by the worst thieves on the net - but there are many, many safe places to play at. Read around this forum a bit and you will learn much!

Good luck in the future!
KK

 

[chayton]

I'd have to agree here, sending your info to a place like that is risky and the chance you'll see any money from them is probably zero. My advice (for what it's worth) is to kiss the deposit goodbye, treat whatever your balance in as play money, and when it's gone, close your account with them. And be glad you only are out $25 and not $250.

 

[maxd]

Put it this way:

I walk up to you when you're sitting in your car with your kid in the car seat. Three big, not-friendly looking buddies of mine join us.

I take your money, your groceries, your cell phone and your baby's lolly. Then I ask if I can borrow your house keys.

What do you do? If you say "step on the gas and get the hell out of there" then I think you're probably on to something.

 

[chayton]

To be fair to the OP, they didn't know that POC was a rogue/criminal casino when they started playing, they only found out after joining here. I can totally relate, the first few deposits I made playing online were at Breakaway Casino and VIP Lounge, which were touted in several other casino sites as THE places to play. It wasn't until after I found Casinomeister that I found out that the other 'casino sites' were either shills or affiliates who didn't care who got ripped off.

 

[eu_lowroller]

Breakaway Casino

This casinos was rogue?

I've played there very often and had more cashouts, then i've deposited, even on their (i think 300%) cashable welcome bonus and always got my money within 1 business day.

But maybe i had only luck?

The only thing i can remember is, that they had a $500 daily cashout limit and all about that goes out in installments, which was a little bit denoying.

 

[maxd]

To be fair to the OP, they didn't know that POC was a rogue/criminal casino when they started playing ...f.

Sure, understood, but their recent post ..

Well my main question is ... would giving them more of my information be risky?

Indicates that the "run, don't walk" message is timely.

 

[jetset]

Put it this way:

I walk up to you when you're sitting in your car with your kid in the car seat. Three big, not-friendly looking buddies of mine join us.

I take your money, your groceries, your cell phone and your baby's lolly. Then I ask if I can borrow your house keys.

What do you do? If you say "step on the gas and get the hell out of there" then I think you're probably on to something.

LMAO - Max, you break me up! :notworthy

 

[chayton]

Sure, understood, but their recent post ..
Indicates that the "run, don't walk" message is timely.

Point taken...

 

[LonelyHearts]

Back in the Neteller days (2005) I used to play there. I was never denied a withdrawal. But times may have changed. I can't remember if I had to submit my ID. The problem I had with this group was. They made my withdrawal pend for 5 days before they would process it. Its up to you whether you want to chance your $500 withdrawal or not.

 

[skiny]

I wouldn't trust any casino from this group but I don't think they're in the business of identity theft. I played Club Player from the same group before I started chatting here. I gave them my info and eventually got paid. It was a serious pain in the ass to get the money and I don't think they actually intended to pay me but after months of daily contact I think they finally paid me just to shut me up. I can be a little stubborn.... Ok a lot stubborn.

I think they make more than enough money off suckers that have no idea they are crooks until they try to make a withdrawal and most people won't bother fighting with them for months on end. So they just keep the deposits and most of what people win too.

I wouldn't personally tell you to give anyone your info but if you really want to fight for months to get your 500 bucks be my guest. You might actually get the money someday if you want to talk to these people everyday. Maybe it'll be a Valentine's day gift.... Or in an Easter egg.

 

[LaurieJim]

A rogue is a rogue is a rogue, no matter how nice they pretend to be or what bonuses they offer.......keywords..........ROGUE/ PRETEND/BONUSES

 

[jod5413]

Put it this way:

I walk up to you when you're sitting in your car with your kid in the car seat. Three big, not-friendly looking buddies of mine join us.

I take your money, your groceries, your cell phone and your baby's lolly. Then I ask if I can borrow your house keys.

What do you do? If you say "step on the gas and get the hell out of there" then I think you're probably on to something.

Ya Think???

LMAO - Max, you break me up! :notworthy

Yep, Max is quite good at cracking me up, too!!

 

[alwaysrivered]

Sure, understood, but their recent post ..



Indicates that the "run, don't walk" message is timely.

Well you see if i hadn't read anything about them online i would have no indication that they were shady. I mean denying paying out because i had used two bonus chip in a row seems pretty fair to me ready.

I looked through the rogue section about this casino group and there was no mention of identity theft. And most of the complaints were about sums much greater than $500. It seems that most of the people telling me not to bother trying or that it will be too risky is just hearsay. Besides the one response anyone know of identity theft with this casino group? Or false charges?

 

[zebedy]

Well you see if i hadn't read anything about them online i would have no indication that they were shady. I mean denying paying out because i had used two bonus chip in a row seems pretty fair to me ready.

I looked through the rogue section about this casino group and there was no mention of identity theft. And most of the complaints were about sums much greater than $500. It seems that most of the people telling me not to bother trying or that it will be too risky is just hearsay. Besides the one response anyone know of identity theft with this casino group? Or false charges?

There may not be any info about identity theft at POC or the virtual group but if you do some digging most of what you see on google is about how they have constantly ripped off players, at the end of the day its up to you whether you want to send in your personnel details, but with all the warning signs do you really want to risk it ?,
when you find out that your identy has been stolen its then to late and the damage has been done.
good luck in whatever you decide

 

[NASHVEGAS]

I sure wouldnt trust them with any info of any kind

They are not a party of one.

Futhermore, how can a casino even be accredited when they violate their own privacy policy? To be continued

 

[maxd]

Besides the one response anyone know of identity theft with this casino group? Or false charges?

As far as false charges go, yes, I do believe there is documentation of that. Don't have it at my fingertips at the moment.

My point was that if I hand you my rap sheet that says "thief, liar, fraudster and thug" are you really going to feel all warm and fuzzy letting me hang on to your ID, passport and pictures of your kids?

Come on, crooks are crooks. Unless you know them personally it's not wise to bet on what they _won't_ do.