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It's not funny but at this rate we'll see mystic getting paid around Christmas. Really, I am getting upset about this and I dont even know the parties! Sorry, I'll be quiet now.
It's not funny but at this rate we'll see mystic getting paid around Christmas. Really, I am getting upset about this and I dont even know the parties! Sorry, I'll be quiet now.
Well, she was playing with a free chip that has limits on the payout. She also had a history of receiving more free chips than deposits which according to the terms and conditions limits the player's winnings as well. J.Todd didn't have to tell me this - I knew this from when the complaint was first lodged here.Bryan, did Todd state any particular reason why Mysticjoz would not be getting paid regarding her issue ??
Well, she was playing with a free chip that has limits on the payout. She also had a history of receiving more free chips than deposits which according to the terms and conditions limits the player's winnings as well. J.Todd didn't have to tell me this - I knew this from when the complaint was first lodged here.
I have the feeling that Mysticjoz doesn't like the fact that it seemed that she had won. She became ecstatic and spent the money in her head before the casino had a chance to audit her account and remove the percentage of winnings they weren't going to pay. It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is.
She also had a history of receiving more free chips than deposits which according to the terms and conditions limits the player's winnings as well.
She became ecstatic and spent the money in her head before the casino had a chance to audit her account and remove the percentage of winnings they weren't going to pay
When you accept any bonus at any casino you have to accept the T&C's attached to it.I usually agree with you CM but in this case the above just doesn't cut it. JMO. I feel Mystic got lucky. If this player had a 'history' of free chips, perhaps the free chip offer shouldn't have been in place. The casino offered it and it was taken. No harm no foul.
Could you please elaborate on this:
Audit her account? Remove the percentage they weren't going to pay? What does that mean? I have to ask!
Thanks for your help.
When you accept any bonus at any casino you have to accept the T&C's attached to it.
The casinos can have any rules they want. Whether you, I or anyone else likes those T&C's is a separate issue.
If you don't like them - don't take the bonus.
1st rule of playing casinos; always read the T&C's first.
(Not having a go at Mystic or anyone else - I've even done it myself. Lesson learned).
KK
Just for informations sake, I went back a read Mystic's original post on this. According to the post, she was playing with her own money, $25 deposit, no bonus. According to the OP on the POC thread, she had personal knowledge that the RJ was won fair and square and that MJ should have been paid.
Now, what is the truth?
If a casino withholds payment on a win because a player has gotten free chips, then I am screwed too. At one time Rivals were throwing out free chips like they were candy. POC gives more free chips than any casino I have ever seen. Only stipulation I ever saw was that you had to deposit in between free chips.
I stand by my statement that this whole things smells worse than an outhouse in the summer.
Personally, the whole mess just stinks.
I "think" she won over 8K altogether between Blackjack and a RJ? And if I remember correctly, PoC WU'd her around $1000 or so? Mystic can clarify that. I remember at the time thinking that she was lucky to get that even, and I also posted that.
So there was an original settlement offered and accepted by Mystic back then ??I believe she was mistaken, but even if it were her own money, the casino pointed at this in their terms and conditions:
If I recall correctly, she had deposited $1000 at this point but had received $3000 worth of "free" chips. She won $2500 and the casino paid her $250.
Disclaimer: I'm basing this off of my memory since I'm dealing with several projects at the moment and haven't looked anything up.
Mystic can you clarify this for us please...
lauriejim said:well they say to rid yourself of guilt will make one feel better, we are gonna find out now!!! i used to play at palace of chance long before i was a regular on casinomeister and i spent many many thousands of dollars there, enough to buy a home with(small). where to start hum? i won alot of money back last year when dean was manager and i kept getting jerked around left and right, some money did come in after christmas but out of that i had to send dean 500.00 for helping me get paid faster, i also sent an employee there 500.00 so that he could go home and also 250.00 more for medication, im too friggin kind hearted.i also was told a secret and had to promise not to tell(breaking promise, something i dont do) mysticjoz you know that jackpot you won, well you did win it fairly but they didnt want to pay cause you won on a 20.00 deposit..i am no longer v.i.p there and had them close all my accounts even though i do get a 500.00 free chip a month 10x playthru 1 times max cashout, got bored today and have they changed the rules lol, its not worth the 500.00 a month to keep all that inside. i will say that cindy is a sweet person and i mean her no ill will but to many lies to many secrets and i feel so much better now, hope you guys will forgive me for holding in all this info........please for the sake of your sanity and money do not play at any of those casinos, close out your accounts and fast, just as i have done.....another bridge burnt behind me.......................and if that person i sent that money to is reading and they do read this forum, i want my 750.00 back ,i dont really expect to get it back, just a life lesson learned the hard way.............laurie(a soul cleansed)
rob there was no "original settlement" there were unauthoried charges to my bank account when I was playing with a reversed cashout.
when I won and they would NOT pay after calling my house and telling me I would be paid I was told by members HERE to threaten charge backs Which I did... this only got me $1000, but it was better than nothing.
have i questioned your integrity? NO!!! i didnt start this thread, as i told you what info i have has nothing to do with you directly, i gave you the facts of what was known to me and i think i have said im sorry enough to last a freaking lifetime, i really was hoping that you would get your money mystic, i had asked for that thread to be closed and it was and yet you post it again, so whats the point? want to make someone who tried to help look like they are not being honest, i dont owe you nothing, the casino prolly does, , i dont have to declare a damn thing to anyone about any intent on my part as that was already posted, i was told something, decided that this group of casinos needed to be brought down and gave you some info and tried to help get your money , i thought and still think your owed, so dont be going there with me sister your not the only one that has bad issues facing them in life, we all have them and i was trying to help, atleast steer people away from that casino group...........i wish you well in what ever life hands you but dont bash on this girl...................l/jRob.. that "$250.00 was $250.00 of unauthorized withdrawals from my back account which POC paid BACK to me via FREE chips"...
Can I ask why I am being asked to clarify ANYTHING at all....
I am NOT the one who brought this all back up again... In case we all forget.
Or..Was this the real reason it was brought back up?? To have forum members question ME?? Like I was asking to be paid? or question my honesty and integrity?? because I have yet to see any actions showing the OP's declared intent.
I am already dealing with enough.. (medically).. so please direct all your questions in the right direction because it was NOT me who dug this one out of the past.
Mystic, nothing personal..I was just trying to get a couple of facts straight as Bryan & Pina both mentioned different settlement or payoff amounts, I have no ulterior motive other than just trying to understand this with clarity since I got involved on your behalf over at Todd's forum...
Just to be crystal clear...I ain't got no dog in this hunt !! I just wanted to see you get paid what was rightfully yours and I was not aware you had already been paid $1,000 of your winnings there, and I am thinking that POC must have looked upon this payout as settlement in full and case closed judging by what Todd told Bryan...is that correct ?
lauriejim said:like i said dont care about my part but this is my mission to right what i know was being done to a fellow forum member and keeping a secret for so long, im sorry mystic even as we have never seen eye to eye on every issue, i still pray for your health and by god, im gonna get your money back, or go down still fighting...........laurie.....p.s this mgr. said he is a friend of j todds and glad hes onboard with this..................
These are ONLY 2 of your quotes... there are many, many more...lauriejim said:i was told that about mystics win and had to promise not to say anything after i kept hounding dean about it, he said she had won on a 20.00 deposit but had several free chips before that and that he wasnt going to pay her as it was a 20.00 deposit, just like i told roger on the phone last night when he called, should i have come forward sooner? yes and i regret not doing so, now all i want to do is help get mystic her money back she won fair and square by bringing this out in the open, she would not have gotten it before thru p.a.b and we all know that, now the new management to save face must do the right thing and pay her, and the 500.00 free chip is kinda hard to play anymore when you have closed your accounts, so thats not the issue at hand, its holding this company responsable for screwing so many people around and now that my proof is in hand and they want to save what face they still may have, they need to pay mystic and all that have been screwed over by them.................laurie
Rob I do appreciate your help, I see it as sincere as I know you have no ulterior motive here. :notworthy
I believed I shed light on the $1000 payment I did recieve in LJ's thread, I am sorry if you missed that, and I also stated the only thing I signed stated that the payment recieved ensured POC that I would not proceed with any "chargebacks" regarding POC.