Piggs Peak?
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They used to be fine, but yep I'm seeing some problems with them popping up on fora.
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First I've heard anything bad about Pigg's Peak.
Would you please give a little more information?
Would you please give a little more information?
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sirius said:
I haven't heard diddly squat about any wrong doings or problems with them, and as you know I have a pretty good inkling what is going on out there. If you have a problem with them, or if you are aware of something evil, it's best you let me know what it is specifically instead of posting something as vague as you did.
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casinomeister said:
I haven't heard diddly squat about any wrong doings or problems with them, and as you know I have a pretty good inkling what is going on out there. If you have a problem with them, or if you are aware of something evil, it's best you let me know what it is specifically instead of posting something as vague as you did.
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Jeezus,
That was last April and I believe cleared up before I met up with them in May.
So who is having a problem with them besides Sirius? Speak up, I want to know. If there are any problems or unresolved issues spit them out. I want to hear about it.
By the way, the majority of those postings at WOL were just rants. Seven pages that could have been condensed in to one.
Topped off by my buddy Rainfall, sheesh!
That was last April and I believe cleared up before I met up with them in May.
So who is having a problem with them besides Sirius? Speak up, I want to know. If there are any problems or unresolved issues spit them out. I want to hear about it.
By the way, the majority of those postings at WOL were just rants. Seven pages that could have been condensed in to one.
Topped off by my buddy Rainfall, sheesh!
That was just the tip of the iceberg. Do you really think this was the only player who was denied the bonus?? Later in that same thread were details of more recent problems. That's not the only thing they did either.
What about this thread:
What about this thread:
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Jesus, Sirius!
Do you seriously think I hang out in other peoples portals taking note of every player who complains about bonuses or whatever? If you have a gripe then give me a synopsis or send the players to me.
Since April, I've received over 650 complaints in the "Pitch a Bitch" section alone. This does not include players contacting me directly, or those who complain via the forum.
I have one complaint for Piggs Peak from October, from an underaged player who hit a royal flush. That's it.
I find that most of the complaints posted in forums are either blown out of proportion by all of the players chiming in, or it's player fraud. I'm not saying that this case is, but if you have a serious complaint, go to the source or to those who can bring you there.
I run this portal and not WOL's, nor Gonegambling's, Bet2gamble, etc. This is my turf and if players have a beef with this casino (or any) then they need to let me know, not send me off to cyberworld because I simply don't have the time.
Do you seriously think I hang out in other peoples portals taking note of every player who complains about bonuses or whatever? If you have a gripe then give me a synopsis or send the players to me.
Since April, I've received over 650 complaints in the "Pitch a Bitch" section alone. This does not include players contacting me directly, or those who complain via the forum.
I have one complaint for Piggs Peak from October, from an underaged player who hit a royal flush. That's it.
I find that most of the complaints posted in forums are either blown out of proportion by all of the players chiming in, or it's player fraud. I'm not saying that this case is, but if you have a serious complaint, go to the source or to those who can bring you there.
I run this portal and not WOL's, nor Gonegambling's, Bet2gamble, etc. This is my turf and if players have a beef with this casino (or any) then they need to let me know, not send me off to cyberworld because I simply don't have the time.
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I read the threads you linked, Sirius.
It's a thread full of people defending Piggs Peak after you trash it. That just doesn't prove anything, except that you may be mistaken.
It's a thread full of people defending Piggs Peak after you trash it. That just doesn't prove anything, except that you may be mistaken.
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You can't have read the threads I linked to (which one did you go to?). I noticed you are promoting the group on your site so I suppose I can understand why you are blind to the truth.
It's a similar problem with Casinomeister and even WizardofOdds (e.g. ClubDice group and Swiss group). They have been prepaid to advertise these casinos so they can't easily stop the agreement and are very reluctant to anyway. It would help if there was some discussion beforehand. Piggs Peak obviously shouldn't be among the reputable casinos. So many players have had problems with them if you read the threads and they aren't just unknown posters either. You should recognisee zrapture, Don Gambler, Dirk Dangerous, bart and curuso and others who recognise they are not reputable. I don't know how many people need to complain. The vast majority of players won't complain on any message board.
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sirius said:
Prepaid? You couldn't be further from the truth. There is no prepaid agreement, we can remove the banners at will, with the speed of an FTP upload, and I certainly remove the banners from any casino which has proven to be less than 100% reputable, honest and safe to bet at. My responsibility is to the players alone, and to the best of my knowledge, that is the attitude of the casinos who are presented on my pages.
That is why I read the forums, and why I am reading this one right now, and will be looking into it personally.
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sirius said:
That's a load of crap, and you know it. For some reason you have a chip on your shoulder and you want me to knock it off. I don't play these games.
The majority of players who have problems come to me, and I'm sure you are very aware of this fact. The ones who don't are usually ones who either a) don't know about this site or b) are fraudsters.
You also know damn well that I've dropped casinos from this site. Look what happened to the Grand Banks crew. I was probably the first to go on record about their exploits.
What I would like to know, what gives? What bee has all of the sudden gotten under your bonnet? You are one of the oldtimers here. To lambast me like this is a bit out of character. What's up with that?
Or are you just trying to start an argument?
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I wasn't trying to start an argument. It's unusual you mentioned Grand Banks because I don't even remember when you stopped recommending them (only Black Widow). I think it was only when you met some guy from the group quite recently at a conference that they all got rogued so why do you refer to them as the 'Grand Banks crew'. They were always slow paying. I was complaining about their slow-pay at the beginning when they started. They advertised here for ages though. The only thing I remember is you removing Black Widow for a high roller bonus problem but you didn't have much choice. It seemed to take months to do so though and here is a thread that mentioned something about it: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/is-the-black-widow-casino-safe-to-play-at.187/
The only reason I remember this was I couldn't understand why you still had Grand Banks in the reputable list when they were in the same casino group! You said something about them having different management. I suppose the reason you didn't blacklist Grand Banks too at the same time was that you still had some advertising to do for them. That's the problem I mentioned and it isn't a load of crap. I didn't realise at that time they were paying to be on that list.
Also, how do you know most players who have a problem come to you?
P.S. rowmare, I wasn't referring to you in that paragraph. I know you don't have prepaid advertising but that is how Casinomeister works. In case you didn't know, all the casinos in the reputable list here have paid for advertising.
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Piggs Peak aff program uses software that might be shaving stats. There's recent posts at Casino Affiliate Programs.
That's all I know.
That's all I know.
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...... oh ........
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Gee thanks Sirius for turning my forum into a pissing contest:
Advertising for ages is relative. It was for about 1.5 years. Black Widow was rogued, seriously rogued in November 2002 https://www.casinomeister.com/rogue-casinos/
Since GB or Sterling House was not involved in this, I did not think it was fair to include them in this situation. This was made clear a number of times.
After meeting with Brian Woods and he explained the reasonings behind the slow payments where they all placed in the rogue section. You should know this since I made this perfectly clear a number of times.
Gee, I didn't know you were privy to all the mechanics that make Casinomeister work. Before you start supposing and assuming things, why don't you ask me why and how casinos get listed?
Mainly from my contacts with software providers and the casino operators themselves. When a casino fails for instance, I'll receive the complaints I get - I compare this with the list of players owed money via the software provider to see if there are any stragglers, and it's usually pretty damn close. I also get a lot of referals from the IGC (the real IGC) and other casino groups.
Players shouldn't have to come to me, but I make myself available if and when they do. I don't get paid to do it, and I do it on my own time. Should I start referring them to you?
Again, good going at dissing me in my own forum with misinformation. Since you seem to know so well how advertising works here, how about explaining it in detail to everyone. What exact agreements do I have with these casinos, what are the expectations, and what is the price?
I'd really like to know.
Advertising for ages is relative. It was for about 1.5 years. Black Widow was rogued, seriously rogued in November 2002 https://www.casinomeister.com/rogue-casinos/
Since GB or Sterling House was not involved in this, I did not think it was fair to include them in this situation. This was made clear a number of times.
After meeting with Brian Woods and he explained the reasonings behind the slow payments where they all placed in the rogue section. You should know this since I made this perfectly clear a number of times.
Gee, I didn't know you were privy to all the mechanics that make Casinomeister work. Before you start supposing and assuming things, why don't you ask me why and how casinos get listed?
Mainly from my contacts with software providers and the casino operators themselves. When a casino fails for instance, I'll receive the complaints I get - I compare this with the list of players owed money via the software provider to see if there are any stragglers, and it's usually pretty damn close. I also get a lot of referals from the IGC (the real IGC) and other casino groups.
Players shouldn't have to come to me, but I make myself available if and when they do. I don't get paid to do it, and I do it on my own time. Should I start referring them to you?
Again, good going at dissing me in my own forum with misinformation. Since you seem to know so well how advertising works here, how about explaining it in detail to everyone. What exact agreements do I have with these casinos, what are the expectations, and what is the price?
I'd really like to know.
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I don't think they're shaving. But their stats definitely leave something to be desired, the site is not exactly the most reliable in terms of updates.
casinomeister said:
Well I don't know how it works. All I know is that you get paid to advertise them for a certain time and they disappear off the reputable list when the advertising campaign stops or isn't renewed. I also heard you meet with them before you start advertising them and they have to abide by certain rules of conduct but it doesn't make it easy for you to remove them from the list.
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sirius said:
I think the assumption that Casinomeister would leave a Casino's advertisements on his pages as a recommended casino if there were any solid evidence that they may be less than reputable is rediculous.
What is more important, an outstanding reputation for honesty in the industry (which the meister has) or one measly contract?
In terms of money, the reputation is far more valuable than advertising any single casino or casino group.
That is from casinomeister. Piggs Peak haven't got a clean history. Below is from Wizard of odds:
Here are the changes he made this year:
Wizard isn't actually genuinely interested in any of this and his attitude has been appalling. It seems ok now to advertise casinos that break his rules as long as the players don't click on his links. I've explained to him that Club Dice don't resolve the problem or even reply to me and when I contacted him months ago (when he advertised them) and he didn't seem at all interested in resolving it and also have since given him more evidence of problems with other players which he completely dismisses.
I also contacted Club Dice again recently and only got a reply saying I would get a response shorty but never have. This was what Wizard wrote when I contacted him again recently. It was very shortly before he put the Club Dice ads back up but I had no idea he was about to put them back up on his site (he probably had already been paid for the ads)
I kept sending him more evidence in emails of problems with other players too but he always replied with one line emails (I am copying a few below):
and (I also asked him to add my link on his site):
Lastly:
He updated his rules probably because he had to sort out a complaint with a player who signed up to a casino in the Swiss group from his link (he had advertised them last year). The player was denied a bonus for no good reason. The complaint was resolved but apparently the Wizard doesn't mind if players who don't know about his site get screwed by the casinos he advertises. He continued to advertise them after this incident. Does he think that was the only player it happened to?
Anyway, does anyone remember the name of the new casino in the Club Dice/ Carnival casino group? It was launched quite recently.
Anyway, does anyone remember the name of the new casino in the Club Dice/ Carnival casino group? It was launched quite recently.
Look at the payout percentage for 21 games for December at Hamptons (103.4%). The Wizard should have the stats for this and presumably didn't detect anything statistically abnormal. According to the Pirate, his Caribbean 21 play was included in this December report:
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Hey Sirius -
Wasn't exactly a wise move on your part to tell him you didn't like his attitude... and frankly with the exception of a few cases I too will no longer resolve cases unless they are registered under me - the simple reasons for this are:
1. It ends up costing me money to help other people out - obviously not cash out of pocket, but in terms of time and resources - and frankly I think four years of service to players and casinos is not a bad record.
2. Casinomeister already does a good job of this - so it makes more sense for me to lend him a hand when he asks rather than trying to duplicate his work. As a matter of fact, he, Julie and I already had an agreement not to "step on each other's toes" so to speak - especially important for them because of the amount of effort and time required to resolve some of those complaints.
I imagine there are quite a number of emails that you haven't posted here... and of course you know if you were to take that kind of an approach with me you would quickly find yourself in a firefight because I don't have nearly as much patience as Mike and I also find myself to be a better judge about what goes on my site and what doesn't.
The new "casino" appears to be nothing more than an affiliate - I presume you are talking about Cathedral Casino, which frankly I find to be in poor taste even if the design is not bad.
Wasn't exactly a wise move on your part to tell him you didn't like his attitude... and frankly with the exception of a few cases I too will no longer resolve cases unless they are registered under me - the simple reasons for this are:
1. It ends up costing me money to help other people out - obviously not cash out of pocket, but in terms of time and resources - and frankly I think four years of service to players and casinos is not a bad record.
2. Casinomeister already does a good job of this - so it makes more sense for me to lend him a hand when he asks rather than trying to duplicate his work. As a matter of fact, he, Julie and I already had an agreement not to "step on each other's toes" so to speak - especially important for them because of the amount of effort and time required to resolve some of those complaints.
I imagine there are quite a number of emails that you haven't posted here... and of course you know if you were to take that kind of an approach with me you would quickly find yourself in a firefight because I don't have nearly as much patience as Mike and I also find myself to be a better judge about what goes on my site and what doesn't.
The new "casino" appears to be nothing more than an affiliate - I presume you are talking about Cathedral Casino, which frankly I find to be in poor taste even if the design is not bad.
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I didn't copy my emails to him becase I was just explaining the problem in normal language. I repeated things quite a few times in long emails just trying to make it easier to understand but all I got was one line replies. Does he really think they were going to respond to me? There isn't even an explanation unless they dream one up which they've had plenty time to. At least he got some sort of answer from them but he obviously doesn't want to go by his word and find out they were in the wrong and remove the ads because he's been paid already.
Your homepage is full of dodgy casinos! Didn't you think you would save a lot of time in resolving complaints if you had more reputable casinos there? You must have had a nightmare with the Casino Rewards group and Casino Tropez group which I saw on your main page. I still currently see the Del Rio (tropez group) unresolved complaint on the winneronline board first page (involves Mr. J) but I saw that casino on your main page. They have cheated lots of players.
This is an example of what Casino Rewards do to deny bonuses already played for (from a player on a message board):
That was from last year but this is a more recent thread about Yukon Gold:
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It shows they have no real desire to be fair. There was also another incident last year when they tried to change wagering requirements retroactively that seemed to go on for ages and lost a lot of players money when they were forced to wager more than agreed.
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Hi all,
One of the problems here that may be exasberating the problem is the reliance on message boards. Only about 7% of all players ever visit message boards in most cases. And the majority of these players seem to just lurk. Lest we forget, message boards ore other peoples' portals.
Now, don't get me wrong, message boards are a good source of information, but in my experience as an administrator, many of these "negative" postings need to be taken with a grain a salt. Players who will bring their problems to a public forum do it because a) the situation is has not yet been satisfactorily resolved and they want other players to know what's up b) the a player dosen't know what to do c) the player has intent to harm the casino. d) the player likes attention.
I don't chase ambulances; I don't chase complaints. If a player has a problem with any of the casinos that are listed here - I'll get it resolved one way or another. If a player has a problem with a casino that is NOT listed here - I'll get it resolved one way or another.
This is EXTREMELY time consuming; I have no staff, I do ALL of the webmastering on this site, I am consistantly behind in my emails - updates to the site take the backburner sometimes - I don't follow up on everything that should be followed up on....because I'm trying to help people out.
You don't read most of the complaints that I deal with because they aren't posted, but I rarely receive any for the casinos listed here.
If some one has a problem with City Club or whatever, they need to bring it to me.
If you have a problem with any of my advertisers, you need to let me know specifically what these problems are and not just merely post some link to someone else's portal.
One of the problems here that may be exasberating the problem is the reliance on message boards. Only about 7% of all players ever visit message boards in most cases. And the majority of these players seem to just lurk. Lest we forget, message boards ore other peoples' portals.
Now, don't get me wrong, message boards are a good source of information, but in my experience as an administrator, many of these "negative" postings need to be taken with a grain a salt. Players who will bring their problems to a public forum do it because a) the situation is has not yet been satisfactorily resolved and they want other players to know what's up b) the a player dosen't know what to do c) the player has intent to harm the casino. d) the player likes attention.
I don't chase ambulances; I don't chase complaints. If a player has a problem with any of the casinos that are listed here - I'll get it resolved one way or another. If a player has a problem with a casino that is NOT listed here - I'll get it resolved one way or another.
This is EXTREMELY time consuming; I have no staff, I do ALL of the webmastering on this site, I am consistantly behind in my emails - updates to the site take the backburner sometimes - I don't follow up on everything that should be followed up on....because I'm trying to help people out.
You don't read most of the complaints that I deal with because they aren't posted, but I rarely receive any for the casinos listed here.
If some one has a problem with City Club or whatever, they need to bring it to me.
If you have a problem with any of my advertisers, you need to let me know specifically what these problems are and not just merely post some link to someone else's portal.
Enough already
The casinomesiter does not even know any of us. Yet he takes the time to go out of his way to get our monies back when he see's the casino owes us. What does he get for it? Nothing. There are a few casinos he has on his list that I dont care for. it is to each his own as long as the casino is not frauding us and others.You went to another site and complained on there forum.Let them take care of whatever is ailing you. It seems like you want to make the rounds and destroy the casino for whatever reason you have. I personally do not care for that casino either, so I just don't play there anymore and thats that!
The casinomesiter does not even know any of us. Yet he takes the time to go out of his way to get our monies back when he see's the casino owes us. What does he get for it? Nothing. There are a few casinos he has on his list that I dont care for. it is to each his own as long as the casino is not frauding us and others.You went to another site and complained on there forum.Let them take care of whatever is ailing you. It seems like you want to make the rounds and destroy the casino for whatever reason you have. I personally do not care for that casino either, so I just don't play there anymore and thats that!
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What a load of bollocks, Sirius. You know damn well that I have had the tightest list of casinos on the Net for the longest time. And I RARELY have to resolve complaints.
With CR - if they ever do not resolve a problem that I bring to them, I would have removed them ages ago - but the few that I have brought up to them have been resolved satisfactorily.
With CT - they had a forced two-month hiatus after the VR problem until I was satisfied they had not intended to cause any problems - and even after that point (about 2 weeks) I left them off for another 6 just to make sure. They were only turned on again at most 3-4 days ago.
I'm not even going to go to your site to pick on your list - simply not on. If you want to buck up against those sites who have proven themselves over time to be a reliable indicator of the industry, be my guest.
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All he has are Referback Casinos.
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LMFAO...
Referback is not exactly the cleanest whistle in the pile... but I used to carry them too so I can't exactly complain.
Referback is not exactly the cleanest whistle in the pile... but I used to carry them too so I can't exactly complain.
spearmaster said:
You must be out of touch if you think Casino Rewards and Tropez Group are reputable. They have stolen from players. Didn't you read my message properly before? Even Bet2Gamble has the Tropez group in his 'sites to avoid' list but on the other hand he also has ads for the notorious IGolbal Media casino sites (I think you had ads for IGlobal poker sites).
I also noticed you had Piggs Peak a few weeks ago (maybe you still do).
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I have a funny feeling that this thread won't be put to rest until Sirius has tried to damage the reputation of every casino group, with the sole exception of the referback casino group.
On the subject of integrity and reputation:
- The casinomeister spends the majority of his time dealing with casino complaints. This is done on his own time (apparently takes up quite a lot of time), and for NO financial reward.
Therefore, it is logical to conclude that he wouldn't dream of promoting a casino which will bring in complaints and take up more of his time for NO financial reward. Does he come across to you as being that stupid? Sheesh!
- Sirius has only one casino group on his website. This is very unusual. Why would any webmaster put all his eggs into one basket. One might conclude that he is, in fact, working as an agent for referback, and has a mandate to tarnish the reputations of their biggest competitors. And Piggs Peak, having surged in popularity recently, would be a logical place to start.
As far as complaints on forums goes:
- Forums are an invaluble source of information for online players. They can get information and opinions from other players about casinos they're wanting to play at, etc.
- Forums are also an invaluable medium for negative people to blow off steam - justly or unjustly - after losing money at a casino. Nothing pisses people off more than losing.....and losing money is the definitive catalyst for hard feelings.
*Having ran two land-based companies (not gambling related, I have a LOT of experience with customer service, and I KNOW that:
- There are people who will bitch about almost anything, from the weather to the size of doggie biscuits, and find fault where none exists.
- There are also people who do not take responsibility for their actions, and pass the blame along.
- There are people who lie.
This is why casino webmasters have to use discretion and investigation to filter out b.s. rantings and distinguish them from legitimate problems that must be dealt with.
Also, people are much more likely to post a complaint than a compliment. That's just human nature. I'm guilty of that myself.
In closing:
WTF, Sirius?
*I must say that by far the majority of customers and other people I have dealt with were delightful, honest and good. It's the minority that makes things harder that they have to be.
On the subject of integrity and reputation:
- The casinomeister spends the majority of his time dealing with casino complaints. This is done on his own time (apparently takes up quite a lot of time), and for NO financial reward.
Therefore, it is logical to conclude that he wouldn't dream of promoting a casino which will bring in complaints and take up more of his time for NO financial reward. Does he come across to you as being that stupid? Sheesh!
- Sirius has only one casino group on his website. This is very unusual. Why would any webmaster put all his eggs into one basket. One might conclude that he is, in fact, working as an agent for referback, and has a mandate to tarnish the reputations of their biggest competitors. And Piggs Peak, having surged in popularity recently, would be a logical place to start.
As far as complaints on forums goes:
- Forums are an invaluble source of information for online players. They can get information and opinions from other players about casinos they're wanting to play at, etc.
- Forums are also an invaluable medium for negative people to blow off steam - justly or unjustly - after losing money at a casino. Nothing pisses people off more than losing.....and losing money is the definitive catalyst for hard feelings.
*Having ran two land-based companies (not gambling related, I have a LOT of experience with customer service, and I KNOW that:
- There are people who will bitch about almost anything, from the weather to the size of doggie biscuits, and find fault where none exists.
- There are also people who do not take responsibility for their actions, and pass the blame along.
- There are people who lie.
This is why casino webmasters have to use discretion and investigation to filter out b.s. rantings and distinguish them from legitimate problems that must be dealt with.
Also, people are much more likely to post a complaint than a compliment. That's just human nature. I'm guilty of that myself.
In closing:
WTF, Sirius?
*I must say that by far the majority of customers and other people I have dealt with were delightful, honest and good. It's the minority that makes things harder that they have to be.
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I haven't just got Referback casinos but they are the main ones at the moment. Have you wondered why got2bet doesn't promote those sites other than they don't make him much money (the sites that make him the most money aren't necessarily the most reputable)? They are some of the oldest and most established online casinos. The Gaming Club is the only site that has been caught up in problems but it managed to see sense and resolve everything. If only the casinos that you and Got2Bet promote could understand the same thing.
Below are quotes from the Gaming Club from an incident last year. They had already refunded any losses to players denied the bonus before they finally saw sense and gave the bonuses to everyone. Some sites that you and Got2Bet promote have been guilty of making similar mistakes even now. Some of the sites promoted by Got2Bet still fraudulantly and selectively deny bonuses (they won't even refund any losses in the play towards the bonus). Bet2Gamble blacklisted the Tropez group due to the casinos trying this on and not resolving some of the complaints. It's amazing how they can even be thought of as reputable when they've stolen from players. I have more knowledge about what goes on because I am a member of numerous forums, some of which aren't open to most of the public.
You can read more about the Gaming Club incident here: Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)
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Below are quotes from the Gaming Club from an incident last year. They had already refunded any losses to players denied the bonus before they finally saw sense and gave the bonuses to everyone. Some sites that you and Got2Bet promote have been guilty of making similar mistakes even now. Some of the sites promoted by Got2Bet still fraudulantly and selectively deny bonuses (they won't even refund any losses in the play towards the bonus). Bet2Gamble blacklisted the Tropez group due to the casinos trying this on and not resolving some of the complaints. It's amazing how they can even be thought of as reputable when they've stolen from players. I have more knowledge about what goes on because I am a member of numerous forums, some of which aren't open to most of the public.
You can read more about the Gaming Club incident here: Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)
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Bet2gamble now advertises Casino Tropez. I don't know why the change.
I remember that Gaming Club incident, there was a lot on WoL about it, they handled it beautifully.
Sirius isn't a shill for Referback. He's a longtime poster on many message boards.
I've seen some DelRio and Tropez complaints, I'll direct players to Casinomeister and Bet2gamble.
There are now so many boards it's difficult to keep track of them all; some posters have different handles for different boards, some the same; some are regulars, some are one-shots.
I remember that Gaming Club incident, there was a lot on WoL about it, they handled it beautifully.
Sirius isn't a shill for Referback. He's a longtime poster on many message boards.
I've seen some DelRio and Tropez complaints, I'll direct players to Casinomeister and Bet2gamble.
There are now so many boards it's difficult to keep track of them all; some posters have different handles for different boards, some the same; some are regulars, some are one-shots.
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Excuse me?
After a HELL of a lot of pressure put on them from various different sources and after many weeks of no response. That thread doesn't even begin to reflect the amount of work done behind the scenes to get them to resolve the issue.
And I have NEVER carried anything for Iglobalmedia, so quit pretending you know it all and get off your high chair. You don't know shit about my criteria. You have watched me for four years and you know that you are talking shit. Lest we forget, your background comes from bonus hunting, while I have worked my ass off to make this industry better. I attend practically every conference as a participant or as a speaker. You didn't even attend one in your area, or at least you couldn't be bothered to let us know you were sneaking about. You don't have the faintest clue about Iglobalmedia or any other software provider except what you have seen in the forums. You make no effort to discover the truth, instead choosing to say whatever suits YOUR purposes.
I work my ass off for this industry, same as Bryan does. I doubt the same could be said about you - so get the hell off our backs until you have some DECENT reason to complain. I'm perfectly willing to take my lumps when I deserve them; this is not one of those occasions.
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spearmaster said:
Ditto on that, Sirius.
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This is stupid. I'm pretty sure you had empire poker on your site before (before this, I noticed Party Poker on GameMaster's site even though I thought he blacklisted the group). To say you work your 'ass off for this industry' is a bit much. You seem to mainly work for your own benefit.
I was only initially pointing out the problems with Piggs Peak. I probably helped resolve it with this player and you can see Lew's emails in the thread:
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butthe player obviously wasn't the only person who had the same problem. After it was fixed for him, he was told by them that they changed their policy about this so it wouldn't happen again. Most people (both you and casinomeister included) thought it was resolved but strangely, Lew Koor didn't reply to any more emails after I asked him how many other people were affected by this policy. Subsequently more problems have happened since.
If you look at what happened later ( page 6
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) you'll see they didn't really learn from it at all, anyway. That was only one of quite a few threads just on winneronline about the group.Gaming Club didn't take too long to resolve the problem (about four weeks- I wonder what happened to Brad Wright, the casino manager). The similar problems with the casinos your are promoting haven't been resolved and you don't seem to care. Gaming Club had promised to refund any losses to the players they didn't initially give the bonus to but they eventually gave everyone the bonuses plus an extra 10%. I still don't believe it was something to do with a negative database. Some were given other bonuses days earlier. They claimed only 29 out of 1647 weren't given the bonus, but they happened to be the biggest depositors.
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sirius said:
Try the Wayback machine. You remember shit that didn't even happen. And yes I do work my ass off for this industry and I don't sit here and gloat about it either.
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Please... spare me the drivel. You do not have any inkling of what was done to help resolve the problem - but you DO remember that you probably helped resolve it. Sheesh...
Had you spared a moment of your precious time in London you could have met Lew Koor in person.
And what, pray tell, did you have to do with this?
Gaming Club were TOLD that they had better resolve it in an amicable manner with compensation for the trouble. Surely you do NOT believe they offered it of their own goodwill?
Believe what you will. I won't tell you exactly what influence was exerted in either situation. If you would like all the credit, be my guest.
I'm not going to say anything more on this silly topic. You have an agenda which you wish to fulfill, be my guest - but NOT at my expense unless you have some real information and facts.
And stop accusing me of things which did not happen, or are "perceived" or whatever - before I get really pissed off and take further action.
It's an IglobalMedia site (they have casino sites such as planet luck and starluck). They used to have rigged casino games and stole money from many players. They claimed to have fair games on most of their sites. I remember all the way through 1999 and 2000 they were advertised everywhere by casino portals because they gave away unheard of commissions (50%). They stole from all these players and the portal owners advertised them because they made more money from the rigged software.
They have done nothing to resolve any of this. They had issues with webmasters too and the stats were wrong or fixed at times. Search for Jerry Garner posts on winneronline.com messageboard for even more info on the company, including their shady past and investors.
I'm still curious as to why got2bet removed the tropez group from his site if it's not because they are not reputable (as mentioned on another thread).
So why did they only last a few days more this time before you pulled them down? You can't have given them enough time to see how well they were 'performing' in your stats! Why was I wrong to think it was due to me posting on here and you discovering they are not so reputable? What other reason was there? Do you still think they are reputable?
They have done nothing to resolve any of this. They had issues with webmasters too and the stats were wrong or fixed at times. Search for Jerry Garner posts on winneronline.com messageboard for even more info on the company, including their shady past and investors.
I'm still curious as to why got2bet removed the tropez group from his site if it's not because they are not reputable (as mentioned on another thread).
So why did they only last a few days more this time before you pulled them down? You can't have given them enough time to see how well they were 'performing' in your stats! Why was I wrong to think it was due to me posting on here and you discovering they are not so reputable? What other reason was there? Do you still think they are reputable?
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I hope you're seeing a therapist, siruis.
And, You need to back up your allegations against Party Poker in order to be credible.
It is irresponsible as a casino portal operator to post a public message like the one you just did without anything to back it up.
As far as I am concerned, you have no credibility anymore. Not after this b.s. thread.
And, You need to back up your allegations against Party Poker in order to be credible.
It is irresponsible as a casino portal operator to post a public message like the one you just did without anything to back it up.
As far as I am concerned, you have no credibility anymore. Not after this b.s. thread.
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Sirius is correct in his summary of iGlobalMedia's history.
They opened and operated casinos with rigged software for a period of time. They told me that they did not know it was rigged and it was the programmers' doing. During this period they also did wrong by Jerry Garner. They told me they had new casino software. This is the software the Wizard tested and came up fair.
Later, they opened Party Poker, and it has been a big money maker for them. as far as I know, there have been no complaints about Party Poker.
They opened and operated casinos with rigged software for a period of time. They told me that they did not know it was rigged and it was the programmers' doing. During this period they also did wrong by Jerry Garner. They told me they had new casino software. This is the software the Wizard tested and came up fair.
Later, they opened Party Poker, and it has been a big money maker for them. as far as I know, there have been no complaints about Party Poker.
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mary said:
I haven't heard anything negative about Party Poker, either. I wasn't saying that Sirius is wrong, per se, I am just annoyed that he takes pot shots at others. To me, this lessens his credibility.
Seriously, Sirius, If you have valuable information to share with other gamers and webmasters, stick to the facts and don't go veering off in other, less noble directions - or we'll sick brazenhussy on ya!
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Do you not understand "mind your own business"?
It's none of your business - what you say has absolutely zero influence on what I do so GET OVER IT already. I am not obligated to tell you my reasons for any of the actions I take, whether they be related to managing my site or why I was up at 3 pm instead of 9 am.
Just because a casino does not appear on my site does not automatically mean it's not reputable.
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Hmmm, I've never been sicced on anyone before. Could be fun.
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kniepm said:
Hey! Do I know you?
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Info for TAR (Tim) regarding Party Poker
Hi Tim,
I play at Party Poker all the time and never had a problem with cashing in. I have friends that play there every single day and they play the high limit tournaments. They are consistent winners, in fact, one even won $53,000 for winning the Saturday night 200K guaranteed tourney. He was paid promptly and without any problem. Tim, everyone here pretty much knows me and I am not affiliated/nor do I shill for Party Poker. I just wanted to give you information about this poker site, and you can trust them when you choose to play for real money. Good Luck.
Hi Tim,
I play at Party Poker all the time and never had a problem with cashing in. I have friends that play there every single day and they play the high limit tournaments. They are consistent winners, in fact, one even won $53,000 for winning the Saturday night 200K guaranteed tourney. He was paid promptly and without any problem. Tim, everyone here pretty much knows me and I am not affiliated/nor do I shill for Party Poker. I just wanted to give you information about this poker site, and you can trust them when you choose to play for real money. Good Luck.
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To Sirius
Sirius, I do not know your real motive for coming here and bashing Bryan, Spear, or anyone else. However, one thing I do know is that you are wasting your time.
Bryan and Spear are considered to be very honest, credible and hardworking by everyone on this forum. If you are looking to boost your own morale, or toot your own horn, at their expense.....I suggest you read a few self help books or take Rowmare's advice and get some therapy.
Sirius, I do not know your real motive for coming here and bashing Bryan, Spear, or anyone else. However, one thing I do know is that you are wasting your time.
Bryan and Spear are considered to be very honest, credible and hardworking by everyone on this forum. If you are looking to boost your own morale, or toot your own horn, at their expense.....I suggest you read a few self help books or take Rowmare's advice and get some therapy.
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SHILL SHILL!!!
Ooops, it Linda. Nevermind, sorry!
Ooops, it Linda. Nevermind, sorry!
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