Personal attacks need to stop.

[The Dude]

Besides seeing this thread almost slipping into another "heated" argument , there is some sage advice here.

The moderators and I will respond to "report a post" alerts, and sometimes will step in on our own (it's tough to know when and where the fires start ), but we are not forum-nannies. Please do not expect this from us.

The members in Casinomeister's forum come from all walks of life with ages ranging from late teens to 70's. Some wealthy - some poor, some high brow, some low brow. I'd guess 40% non-native speakers with a wide range of communicative skill.

Most of us have certain relationships with this industry; many of these relationships conflict with each other. So yeah, you're going to have some level of confrontation. It's strictly up to you on how you are going to deal with it.

What's important is to treat others as you wish to be treated. If someone gets you riled up, walk away from it and come back later. Whatever you do - don't lose sleep over it or let it make you yell at the kids or kick the dog.

Dealing with adversity: we're all people with families, lives, and hobbies beyond the forum, and it's harder to be aggressive towards people you can relate to. Try to let your "opponent" see the human in you, and it will make you less of a target.

And maybe we can have finally have that "love-in"

 

[The Dude]

...

Dealing with adversity: we're all people with families, lives, and hobbies beyond the forum, and it's harder to be aggressive towards people you can relate to. Try to let your "opponent" see the human in you, and it will make you less of a target...

I should mention that this is a tactic used for if/when you are taken hostage. That said, you have to be careful what you disclose because these things may be used against you

 

[WagerWitch]

Thank you for your letter to me.

 

[clj7221]

I am writing this because I am just fed up with going on casino related forums to find one member personally attacking another. Private matters should be kept private and not sprawled across forums like graffiti.

Issues with casinos are fine, that's why this forum was created, but attacking other members and calling them anything under the sun just shows the intelligence level of some members.

These slagging fests that start should be nipped in the bud immediately and to a certain extent the mods should jump on this immediately rather than let it string on. There seems to be quite a few mods on this forum and should a post look to be personally attacking another member, then the thread should be deleted, the poster then warned or banned straight away.

I find it hard to believe that certain threads can go on for such a long time before posters are banned and feel that some these threads are just used as entertainment value for the masses.

Most, if not all forums state that that sort of behaviour will not be tolerated but unfortunately it is......for a bit. I hope this changes.

Great Post. Half the people who gave it thumbs up are the biggest personal attackers!!

 

[The Dude]

Great Post. Half the people who gave it thumbs up are the biggest personal attackers!!

I disagree:

all4greed
bonustreak
chayton
cheetahwind
felicie
jas2587
jetset
lauriejim
maxd
Simmo!
vegetagirl2008
WagerWitch
Webzcas

How are half of these people regular "attackers"? There may be two or three members in that list who have had public personal issues, but if you feel half of these members are dishing out insults, then you're including the mods, and then you might as well include me as well.

And Nash - why are you "thanking" clj7221 for this useful post?

The "thanks" button is being abused in my opinion.

 

[chuchu59]

I am actually heartened by the fact that the posters in question did not bother to respond to this malicious attack.

 

[chayton]

Well I'm on the list and I personally thanked the OP because I think they made a very valid point. It is a little distressing when every other thread deteriorates into sniping and flaming - at that point I pretty well stop reading. Unless one party is being a complete A**hole (JHV ahem) I don't take sides or get involved. I didn't join this forum to get into the middle of a brawl...if I want to brawl I can do it at home!

 

[NASHVEGAS]

And Nash - why are you "thanking" clj7221 for this useful post?

I suck at math so I thought half = 1 or 2. I agree with C L J's point as a general statement, ironic as it is. I do not literally agree to the "half" obviously. My Gawd.

 

[jetset]

I am actually heartened by the fact that the posters in question did not bother to respond to this malicious attack.

Well said, Chuchu!

 

[TOC]

Hi CM friends, yes you thought I'd left, which I did but I never said I was leaving forever and just the thread. Go read it. I had to leave for a few months or be banned again by CM. :notworthy

I went down the same road as WW, been there done that, how does it feel WW? I've read the entire thread and yes it's the old timer crowd as I called it months ago, or the Meister Mob and I think I used that a few times too.

The only thing that seems to get the mob excited are new casino's, spam posters or someone to pick on. Now certain piranha's are attacking a 600 post member. You should stand back and think wow 600 post's and now they want to leave, WTF is going on in CM land? I think all of CM land needs to back off WW and post your crap at me cause I never really cared. I know how it bounces around here:machinegu

Back to my BEER Bye! BTW - Sneed I love to read your posts but the last 2 were disappointing, JMO.

 

[mrracetrack]

And Nash - why are you "thanking" clj7221 for this useful post?

The "thanks" button is being abused in my opinion.

Bryan...

You have made the "Thank You" button available under every post in every forum. If someone feels the need to "thank" someone for what was posted... and "you personally" don't agree with that... I don't think it's right for you to "chastise" that person.

You did that to "me" about 6-7 months ago when I "thanked" a post made by jod5413... and you also removed my "thank you" button as "punishment" for me expressing my "thanks" for her post.

jod5413 was suspended for a week for her post in that thread... and after serving her suspension... she was back as a "member in good standing"... yet I never had my "thank you" button reinstated. Was that supposed to be a "lifetime ban"?

Bryan... if you only want to allow someone to give a "thank you" to posts that you feel are appropriate... maybe you should consider removing that option from the forum.

If you disagree with someone thanking a post... wouldn't it be more appropriate to discuss this (perhaps privately) with the member... instead of publicly "spanking" them because you didn't feel the "thanks" was warranted?

Just my "2 cents" on this...

 

[PNWGirl38]

Personally I find all this bashing text w/ "adults" on this forum, rather alarming at best.

Come on folks! Let's grow up here.

We have a generation that takes online, texting, social networking to an entirely different level.

Just for an example of what I am referring to. .... We have a female teenager in FL ...... that is fighting for her life. A young man received some text messages so he took it upon himself to put on steeltoe boots, went to her school, and kicked her nearly to death.

I find it so unsettling to read all this bashing on here. We all are supposed to be adults. Let's be adults and show our kids that online banter is not the place to bash anyone.

 

[jod5413]

Come on folks! Let's grow up here.

We have a generation that takes online, texting, social networking to an entirely different level.

Just for an example of what I am referring to. .... We have a female teenager in FL ...... that is fighting for her life. A young man received some text messages so he took it upon himself to put on steeltoe boots, went to her school, and kicked her nearly to death.

I find it so unsettling to read all this bashing on here. We all are supposed to be adults. Let's be adults and show our kids that online banter is not the place to bash anyone.

PNWGirl,

Just because we get out of line and the discussion gets heated, that does not mean we are not grown ups.

I agree with you about the kids texting and harassing other kids on social sites like MySpace, etc. Or, using a cell phone to record a gang beating the Hell out of a poor kid. But, again, I do not see the relevance here. I would think our kids do not read this forum, I know my kid wouldn't be allowed.

Last thing, MrR was talking about thanking people on their posts. I know I use the thanks button to let someone know I appreciate their post and agree with it. Or I like to thank someone that made me laugh. Or, I may thank a moderator for stepping in and soothing the "almost out of line member" so they do not get banned. There are other situations that I can not think of right now.

I do not see the connection between your post and MrR's. I could just be dense, but......

 

[PNWGirl38]

jod: Sorry if you felt that my post was directed to Mr.R. For it wasn't aimed at his post. ( Sorry Mr. R if you felt it was. )

I would like to think teenagers don't read CasinoMeister!

I was trying to convey ( guess I did that poorly in my post ealier ) is that bashing people whether we are teenagers ( in general ) or adults via internet and/or texting is wrong!

Now bashing someone and not agreeing w/ someones post... are two different things.

I am all for people to express themselfs and their point(s) of view. But to bash a poster because we don't agree.. I'm not for that.

 

[The Dude]

Bryan...

You have made the "Thank You" button available under every post in every forum. If someone feels the need to "thank" someone for what was posted... and "you personally" don't agree with that... I don't think it's right for you to "chastise" that person.

You did that to "me" about 6-7 months ago when I "thanked" a post made by jod5413... and you also removed my "thank you" button as "punishment" for me expressing my "thanks" for her post.

jod5413 was suspended for a week for her post in that thread... and after serving her suspension... she was back as a "member in good standing"... yet I never had my "thank you" button reinstated. Was that supposed to be a "lifetime ban"?

Bryan... if you only want to allow someone to give a "thank you" to posts that you feel are appropriate... maybe you should consider removing that option from the forum.

If you disagree with someone thanking a post... wouldn't it be more appropriate to discuss this (perhaps privately) with the member... instead of publicly "spanking" them because you didn't feel the "thanks" was warranted?

Just my "2 cents" on this...

@ mrracetrack - Sorry 'bout that. Sometimes ya gotta remind me about stuff. Your "Thanks" capabilities have been reinstated.

Further with the Thanks topic - it's a tricky one and we've discussed this before. In fact, here is a thread we should all revist:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...e-right-way-to-do-it-and-the-wrong-way.33689/

 

[Shyguy]

A big thanks to all who contributed to this post and also thanks to those who said thanks!

There have been some great posts/counter posts on this thread and the majority look to have taken this on board.

What we can conclude from this is that we are all a group of individuals with different opinions, there will always be a difference of opinion but it is common sense that should always prevail.


Disagreements will always part of our nature and it's a good thing that it has been addressed here. Hopefully, we shall see less of the personal attacks from here on in.

 

[jetset]

I agree - in my opinion it's not a bad thing to roll out the topic of disciplined and courteous posting (even during disagreements ) every now and again to remind members that this forum is about hopefully balanced exchanges of useful information and opinion rather than flame wars and snide historical agendas.

Thanks for initiating this thread, Qwerty

 

[Simmo!]

Thanks for initiating this thread, Qwerty

I concur You're never going to get everyone agreeing with each other obviously but it's just nice to visit a forum where people at least respect other's opinions even if they don't agree IMO.

 

[AussieDave]

I concur You're never going to get everyone agreeing with each other obviously but it's just nice to visit a forum where people at least respect other's opinions even if they don't agree IMO.

Very Saintly Simmo!


Cheers



Dave

 

[maxd]

"Very Saintly Simmo!"

 

[Simmo!]

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[Antonia1953]

Guidelines for a "Thanks" button, which if not used "correctly" can get a member banned? Remove the button if it is going to be micro managed. If someone's ego cannot handle a show of agreement for a comment contrary to what they are thinking, then they need to get help.

 

[maxd]

Remove the button if it is going to be micro managed.

It's not about micro-management, nor ego. It's about trying to encourage an attitude change.

When people use the 'Thanks' button to basically say 'Yeah, F you!' then it's a problem. Not conducive to a community spirit you might say.

 

[Antonia1953]

The problem is the post-not the "Thanks" button. Folks that go into the attack mode in a forum are the problem and they will not change. It is where the problem begins, therefore it is the point of control. The "Thanks" button is a result of the problem. Micro the poster. If someone cannot communicate in a civilized manner, then they should not be a member. There are a small number of people on here that have been banned, re-banned, double-banned, etc. and so on, for such behavior, but they are still posting.

 

[maxd]

Folks that go into the attack mode in a forum are the problem and they will not change. It is where the problem begins, therefore it is the point of control.

Easier said than done. Still, nothing wrong with Bryan's attempt to elevate the general population to healthier attitude on such things.

 

[Antonia1953]

I agree. There isn't any fault in encouraging civil behavior and I commend it, but the "Thanks" button control measure is unnecessary. If there is an offensive post, why don't you just prevent the post from being thanked?

I understand the technological complications involved with controlling problem posters, but why add problem thanker controls to the mix? Handle the poster.

Removing someone's button as punishment for thanking a nasty post is comical to me. I think it would be even more comical, if a little line of script beneath the avatar, said banned for being a bad thanker

 

[chayton]

I think it would be even more comical, if a little line of script beneath the avatar, said banned for being a bad thanker

I'm a baaaaaaad thanker....
lol - now THAT'S funny!!!!

 

[The Dude]

I think I've only suspended Thanking privileges for about five people over the years. Four of these individuals found themselves eventually banned for repeated flaming, and one's thanking privileges was just reinstated today

 

[jetset]

It's not about micro-management, nor ego. It's about trying to encourage an attitude change.

When people use the 'Thanks' button to basically say 'Yeah, F you!' then it's a problem. Not conducive to a community spirit you might say.

Absolutely! This is a mentoring measure that has been used sparingly to say the least and imo it's a legitimate way to reinforce the message for those who insist on trying to put the knife in in an oblique manner.