North Korea and US politics

[Harry_BKK]

Yet another shiny example of Mr. T education level. The writing is not more than primary school P4 or P5. No wonder he has little clue about raking forests.

On top, full of lies as usual!

 

[goatwack]

#LeaveIraniansAlone

 

[Harry_BKK]

#LeaveIraniansAlone

He of course does not mention the chaos the US caused in Iran in the last century. And what fight against Iran? They never attacked the US, contrary to the Saudis. The 9/11 guys were mostly or all Saudi-Arabians.

And he has to read up on why Saudi-Arabia has its foot in Yemen, but then Mr. T does not want to know the facts.

Plus the $450 Bil are a pure lie. They are mere declarations of will or maybe a little firmer, declarations of intent, but there is nothing ordered, nothing is clarified as to on what they gonna spend it. The Saudis are under pressure to invest their money on things unrelated to oil, so nothing special. The $450 Billion is a mere fraction of what SA will spend in the next few decades to prepare itself for the day when the petro-dollars dry up.

The last military stuff was negotiated and finalized under Obama, so again Mr. T lying trough his teeth.

IMO, the Saudis just helped Kushner, Mr. T etc too much and now he will back them all the way, no matter what atrocities they will commit. He mentions the people they sanctioned, that is exactly the list the Saudis have given him, nothing what the US has researched/investigated.

 

[ladyhawke]

A record setting 5 year drought, the increased temp and bark beetle infestation are the major causes...

...Another thing, California should stop zoning these high risk areas for houses.

This article - which appears to be impartial and free of any political bias - makes for very interesting reading.

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[Steviedoo]

Members of the Trump administration who have used personal email to conduct official business:

1) Ivanka Trump

2) Jared Kushner

3) Steve Bannon

4) Stephen Miller

5) Reince Priebus

6) Gary Cohn


The shameless hypocrisy of these people never ceases to amaze me.

and the president uses an unsecured phone. But yes lock her up...as they’re still chanting...

 

[Harry_BKK]

Members of the Trump administration who have used personal email to conduct official business:

1) Ivanka Trump

2) Jared Kushner

3) Steve Bannon

4) Stephen Miller

5) Reince Priebus

6) Gary Cohn


The shameless hypocrisy of these people never ceases to amaze me.

and the president uses an unsecured phone. But yes lock her up...as they’re still chanting...

IT: "But my daddy told me that we are now above the law. So I don't care."

The official excuse she gave was just hilarious.

I said it at the very beginning that the US will be the laughing stock of the world and it turned out even worse. Mr. T is selling the US to whoever gives him something.

Russia
Mr. T Jr in 2008: “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”
E. T. a few years ago: “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”
CIA and other intelligence agencies in 2017: Russia meddled in the election.
Mr. T: Putin denied it. And he denied it firmly.

Saudi Arabia
Mr. T in 2015: “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”
CIA in Nov 2018: Confident that MBS ordered the murder personally.
Mr. T: MBS and the king denied it vigorously. More than five times.

....list not complete!

Wait until the Dems take over Congress in Jan to see how Mr T will get much worse than he is today as the pressure will drive him mad. He is running scared like a chicken now already.

 

[Steviedoo]

Happy thanksgiving y’all.

My mother has forbidden any political talk at the table!

 

[Steviedoo]

“At the same time candidate Trump publicly urged sanctions relief for Russia, he was privately putting together a business deal in Moscow that required lifting US sanctions. Then President Trump and his confederates misled the country about it, in a way that left him compromised.”

Is this fake news?

 

[Harry_BKK]

“At the same time candidate Trump publicly urged sanctions relief for Russia, he was privately putting together a business deal in Moscow that required lifting US sanctions. Then President Trump and his confederates misled the country about it, in a way that left him compromised.”

Is this fake news?

No, not fake news.

You can read Cohen's plea deal:

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...According to the plea Mr. T was involved at all times.

Mr. T said he finished all Russia dealings in Jan 2016 but was pursuing a T Tower project in Moscow until June 2016. Cohen was in direct contact with people who are very close to Putin. Beginning of July Trump asked Russia publicly to find Clinton's emails. Plus at news conferences he pleaded that lifting the sanctions would be a good thing.

All coincidence?

 

[TheAddict]

As this is the trump thread i figured I'd display my concern here in.

Obviously there are some sick sick evil people in this world, but how in the hell can 30 men do this? Like literally, unless you have 29 friends you already know are capable of doing it, how in the hell do you find 29 people who are equivalently so disgusting that they hold such low moral standards, without one of them kicking the absolute effing sheeeite out of you?

Assuming this isnt exagerated of course.

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[Steviedoo]

As this is the trump thread i figured I'd display my concern here in.

Obviously there are some sick sick evil people in this world, but how in the hell can 30 men do this? Like literally, unless you have 29 friends you already know are capable of doing it, how in the hell do you find 29 people who are equivalently so disgusting that they hold such low moral standards, without one of them kicking the absolute effing sheeeite out of you?

Assuming this isnt exagerated of course.

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[TheAddict]

Fair one Steviedo. Cheers for doing what i shoulda done (looked into the news sites credibility a bit more, though tbh no news site has my approval lol), bit tired after no sleep Saturday night and just stumbled across it somewhere random lol.

"Theblaze reports: Moms For America President Kimberly Fletcher and Aisha Owmby, the founder of Black Women Walk, organized the trip, which they hope will help others understand why they believe a wall along the U.S.-Mexico wall is needed to protect American families."

I'd of thought It would be a mightily stupid risk/reward decision by the 'moms of america president', which has been running since 2004, a woman who many might automatically consider there's a chance she could be lying about it to support her in one of her quests to open up eyes to the scale of human trafficking (and perhaps then have the claims authenticity validated). Making such a big claim when it could, i assume, be debunked fairly easily by those physicists at the military hospital where the body was appparantly flown into , tarnishing her name and organisation.
Unless that media outlet are making the entire interview up. But then i s'pose that couldn't do them much further damage anyway after reading your [appreciated] bit of research.

Anyway, just got a call from me old boi Don, asking me not to divert the thread, so I'll stfu.

 

[ladyhawke]

Yesterday, I came across a piece by Jill Abramson - the Guardian's US Columunist - which I believe succinctly explains why Trump is the way he is.

"He has lived his life in a world without consequences – his father’s money smoothed the way for a life in which he made messes and others cleaned them up. He appears to be one of those people who was so rarely told that what he was saying was wrong, boorish, or inane that he has no sense of how he’s perceived or what people are thinking or, often, how things work. Feedback is what steers most of us straight, and power and privilege mean that you can avoid it if you want. When you’re a star they let you do stupid things, and he has done so many."

 

[Steviedoo]

Yesterday, I came across a piece by Jill Abramson - the Guardian's US Columunist - which I believe succinctly explains why Trump is the way he is.

"He has lived his life in a world without consequences – his father’s money smoothed the way for a life in which he made messes and others cleaned them up. He appears to be one of those people who was so rarely told that what he was saying was wrong, boorish, or inane that he has no sense of how he’s perceived or what people are thinking or, often, how things work. Feedback is what steers most of us straight, and power and privilege mean that you can avoid it if you want. When you’re a star they let you do stupid things, and he has done so many."

"And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the %^%&%. You can do anything."

 

[slotplayer]

The Guardian is way too left for me.

 

[Harry_BKK]

This is coming from the US president!

I would say it is even below 6th-grader level.

And what happened to him saying: "I have only the best people." ....Does it mean all the people around him are dumb as rock and lazy as hell?

 

[Steviedoo]

He should really be worrying about mueller.

For someone who keeps claiming it’s a witch hunt there are many indictments....and they’ve practically proven that trump and family were quite aware Russians were helping them. And assisted them. I think it’s called treason.

This and the fact that they were/are selling foreign policy for money.

 

[sapit222]

This is coming from the US president!

I would say it is even below 6th-grader level.

And what happened to him saying: "I have only the best people." ....Does it mean all the people around him are dumb as rock and lazy as hell?


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Yeah, i read it this morning. Was so crazy fun.

Everything that pops in to his mind he just has to share with the rest of the world...

 

[trancemonkey]

Yeah, i read it this morning. Was so crazy fun.

Everything that pops in to his mind he just has to share with the rest of the world...

Whilst having a shit... apparently

 

[trancemonkey]

This is coming from the US president!

I would say it is even below 6th-grader level.

And what happened to him saying: "I have only the best people." ....Does it mean all the people around him are dumb as rock and lazy as hell?


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I wonder if he can be sued for slander / liable / being a massive combover fuckwit

 

[Steviedoo]

@slotplayer do you agree with tucker since he’s your favourite Fox News guy

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[slotplayer]

@slotplayer do you agree with tucker since he’s your favourite Fox News guy

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I heard in passing that Tucker said that but did not see anything on the interview until you posted the article. I like to hear/read it from the horses mouth instead of the biased media.

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None of the presidents are capable, its one man against the swamp.

 

[Harry_BKK]

As I predicted long time ago, Mr. T has finally arrived at the last stage of arguing in the Stormy Daniels case.

After complete denial, came the slow-drip admittance and now trying to say it was all legal, nothing there to see. And if, then it was all the lawyers fault, not him directing the lawyer what to do.

What he forgets to mention, is the McDougal case.

 

[Harry_BKK]

This is the USA in 2018 - The entire world is coming together in Katowice to agree on how to curb emmissions and maybe give humanity a few hundred extra years on this planet and what is the US doing?

They are promoting coal! The kids protesting during the presentation were a "disturbance" according to the presenter. No, you moron, they are the ones who will have to live with the consequences of your doing, and that long after you are just a pile of dust and ashes! :axeman2:

 

[Steviedoo]

This is the USA in 2018 - The entire world is coming together in Katowice to agree on how to curb emmissions and maybe give humanity a few hundred extra years on this planet and what is the US doing?

They are promoting coal! The kids protesting during the presentation were a "disturbance" according to the presenter. No, you moron, they are the ones who will have to live with the consequences of your doing, and that long after you are just a pile of dust and ashes! :axeman2:

you forgot to mention that it's not only the usa but saudi arabia and russia too. imagine the usa standing side by side on climate change with these two corrupt countries. amazing.

 

[Steviedoo]

As I predicted long time ago, Mr. T has finally arrived at the last stage of arguing in the Stormy Daniels case.

After complete denial, came the slow-drip admittance and now trying to say it was all legal, nothing there to see. And if, then it was all the lawyers fault, not him directing the lawyer what to do.

What he forgets to mention, is the McDougal case.


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liar in chief.

 

[Harry_BKK]

you forgot to mention that it's not only the usa but saudi arabia and russia too. imagine the usa standing side by side on climate change with these two corrupt countries. amazing.

That was a separate thing. The US together with Russia, Saudi-Arabia and Kuwait were the only countries out of roughly 200 who insisted that a declaration at the COP24 regarding the latest rather daunting UN climate report to be changed from "we welcome the report...." to "we note the existence of the report", which in diplomatic speak is pretty damning.

But yes, the US is now on a level with some of the worst countries on the planet. That is where the US under Mr. T stands, rather isolated IMO.

I guess Mr. T still wants people to rake the forest.

Mr. T couldn't even get support to a UN council meeting regarding North Korea where 9 out of 15 members have to agree. Shows yet again, that the US is well on the way to "America first, America alone."

 

[Steviedoo]

President this morning:

“Remember, Michael Cohen only became a “Rat” after the FBI did something which was absolutely unthinkable & unheard of until the Witch Hunt was illegally started. They BROKE INTO AN ATTORNEY’S OFFICE! Why didn’t they break into the DNC to get the Server, or Crooked’s office?”

The biggest lie today. Does anyone believe what he says anymore.

“ Broke into attorneys office ... “ is that what law enforcement do when they obtain a search n seize warrant? Letters capitalized are from his tweet.

Prosecutors obtain "search warrants" from federal judges by showing probable cause, in compliance with the 4th Amendment, as they did to search Cohen. And they found evidence and Cohen is being jailed.

And there is a tape where trump and Cohen speak about the stormy payments. So his denials are in vain. But sadly a lot of people believe him.

 

[Harry_BKK]

President this morning:

“Remember, Michael Cohen only became a “Rat” after the FBI did something which was absolutely unthinkable & unheard of until the Witch Hunt was illegally started. They BROKE INTO AN ATTORNEY’S OFFICE! Why didn’t they break into the DNC to get the Server, or Crooked’s office?”

The biggest lie today. Does anyone believe what he says anymore.

“ Broke into attorneys office ... “ is that what law enforcement do when they obtain a search n seize warrant? Letters capitalized are from his tweet.

Prosecutors obtain "search warrants" from federal judges by showing probable cause, in compliance with the 4th Amendment, as they did to search Cohen. And they found evidence and Cohen is being jailed.

And there is a tape where trump and Cohen speak about the stormy payments. So his denials are in vain. But sadly a lot of people believe him.

Apparently, some 30% of US citizens still do, plus GOP, senators and congressmen/women. Orin Hatch said it when he was asked in a hurry: "Who cares whether Mr. T committed a crime?"

 

[Steviedoo]

Apparently, some 30% of US citizens still do, plus GOP, senators and congressmen/women. Orin Hatch said it when he was asked in a hurry: "Who cares whether Mr. T committed a crime?"

Can you imagine what they would have done if this was Obama...he wore a tan suit and they said it was unpresidential....what a joke.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Can you imagine what they would have done if this was Obama...he wore a tan suit and they said it was unpresidential....what a joke.

I can tell you that Mr. T will get much worse as their are now investigations into Mr. T himself, his campaign, his presidential transition, his inaugural committee, his businesses + his family and they are closing in.

But for him and his fans it's "Mueller + 17 angry democrats" as he puts it (which is a lie in itself) or the "deep state" and "the swamp" out to get him. Of course, conveniently forgetting that the Justice Department is being led by his own people.

And he never knows anything, only that he has done nothing done wrong! According to him he's always innocent.

I had this article popping up on my newsfeed from republican leaning Forbes, made some interesting reading.

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[Harry_BKK]

Well, the deflector-in-chief has sprung into action again to deflect from the meanwhile 17 investigations into him, his family, his businesses, his charities, his campaign, his transition team, his administration, etc.

Pulling out of Syria and declaring ISIS is defeated (they are not).....yep, just like the North-Korea nuclear disarmament has been solved, sunnyboy's Middle-East peace plan has been made public or the Taliban have been driven out of Afghanistan (FYI, they still control half the country) and so many other things Mr. T declared "mission completed" without any proof whatsoever that it is even just close to being completed.

But always good fodder for a deflection.

Liked though that the FED did not budge to his bullying. But you can clearly see how he is looking already for others to blame should the economy start declining. He surely has been really quiet about the stock market since it started tanking. He's poured over $1 Trillion into the economy via his tax-cut and will achieve maybe 0.4 - 1% more growth than Obama did on average. The future generations will thank him for the additional burden he will leave to them.

Where are the 4%, 5% and even more that he promised would happen?

 

[Steviedoo]

Well, the deflector-in-chief has sprung into action again to deflect from the meanwhile 17 investigations into him, his family, his businesses, his charities, his campaign, his transition team, his administration, etc.

Pulling out of Syria and declaring ISIS is defeated (they are not).....yep, just like the North-Korea nuclear disarmament has been solved, sunnyboy's Middle-East peace plan has been made public or the Taliban have been driven out of Afghanistan (FYI, they still control half the country) and so many other things Mr. T declared "mission completed" without any proof whatsoever that it is even just close to being completed.

But always good fodder for a deflection.

Liked though that the FED did not budge to his bullying. But you can clearly see how he is looking already for others to blame should the economy start declining. He surely has been really quiet about the stock market since it started tanking. He's poured over $1 Trillion into the economy via his tax-cut and will achieve maybe 0.4 - 1% more growth than Obama did on average. The future generations will thank him for the additional burden he will leave to them.

Where are the 4%, 5% and even more that he promised would happen?

Lock him up...

 

[Steviedoo]

Well we didn’t see this coming. Then again all of this North Korea discord seems to happen well when we need another distraction from all that is really happening.

NEW: North Korea says it won't denuclearize unless the US removes its troops and nuclear umbrella from South Korea and Japan. DPRK also accused the US and Trump of misleading the world about what was agreed to at the Singapore talks last summer.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Well we didn’t see this coming. Then again all of this North Korea discord seems to happen well when we need another distraction from all that is really happening.

NEW: North Korea says it won't denuclearize unless the US removes its troops and nuclear umbrella from South Korea and Japan. DPRK also accused the US and Trump of misleading the world about what was agreed to at the Singapore talks last summer.

Of course it was foreseeable. Kim never signed up to denuclearize the DPRK only. I said it at the time, that Mr. T and everyone else infatuated with him will have a rough awakening. Read the text of the declaration Mr. T signed. I bet he never read it because it says very clearly: "complete denuclearization of the KP", nowhere does it mention the DPRK alone.

Or did you think Kim would be so stupid to sign a declaration where only he has to do something. Again, I said it at the time, the Koreans are the best "worst" negotiators and it just proves it again.

 

[Harry_BKK]

This gave me a good laugh this morning.

Mr. T tweet in 2015: "Jeb Bush just talked about my border proposal to build a "fence." It's not a fence, Jeb, it's a WALL, and there's a BIG difference!"
After the election: "It's not a fence, it's a wall. You just misreported it."
21st December 2018: "The Democrats, are saying loud and clear that they do not want to build a Concrete Wall - but we are not building a Concrete Wall, we are building artistically designed steel slats, so that you can easily see through it."

Soon it will be a fence, and probably nothing at all as he won't get his wall from a Dem congress.

Two years with control of WH, Congress and Senate - he spent trillions on tax cuts, military etc and could not get a deal for a few billion $ to build his wall ---> laughable aka "I make the best deals." - Yeah, right!

 

[Harry_BKK]

Yet again showing his cluelesness. The only president officially fighting ISIS was Obama and Mr. T simply carried on with a plan that was agreed on in 2014 under Obama. There are no "recent presidents", there was only one.

So yet again, he's lying through his teeths.

 

[Steviedoo]

Here you go. This guy makes sense. Now there’s a govt shutdown.

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[TheAddict]

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[robby811]

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[Playford7]

How is this even still a thread?.. lol

 

[Harry_BKK]

The Russian backed TV channel sent Mr. T a nice video for Christmas

 

[goatwack]

Just checking what's up in my favourite Communist cou-

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[Harry_BKK]

I am starting to be gobsmacked at how the US is changing, especialy when I take Mr. T "propaganda campaign rally" in Iraq.

He stood there telling the soldiers that

- they were suckers until he got elected
- he personally made sure they got their FIRST pay raise in 10 years and that he pushed it to be 10%.

Quote: "You haven't gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one. I got you a big one..... They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" ....... "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.'" 'Cause it's been a long time, it's been more than 10 years. Been more than 10 years, that's a long time."

Fact is, the military in the US is getting every year a raise in the 1.5 - 3% range. Under Mr. T, they got 2.4% in 2018 and will get 2.6% in 2019. (Inflation is currently around 2%, so the raise is a drop in the ocean in real terms)

Yet again lying through his teeth, yet people cheered him on and even let him sign MAGA hats. Nobody really bothered to tell him in the face that he was lying or asked where are the 10%?



Then today, he says he will close the entire Southern Border if he doesn't get the money for his wall. Did anyone tell him that about $10 billion worth of goods (or maybe more) are crossing every day, other than people?


Are the US people becoming that blinded by his blusters that there is not even a reaction anymore? I honestly got that feeling because wherever it says a few words he lies, yet nobody is actually calling him out anymore.

 

[Harry_BKK]

And another one stood out for me at how brazenly Mr. T is lying. Claiming on Twitter that he's sooooo busy signing bills where there were none to sign and has an empty sheet in front of him.

It is getting really embarassing.

 

[TheAddict]

How do you know he hasn't been busy? He's probably got loads of doodles underneath that sheet of paper and was just about to start a new one

 

[Steviedoo]

The house judiciary and intelligence committees have officially CLOSED the three-year investigation into Hillary’s emails

ZERO indictments
ZERO felonies
ZERO arrests
ZERO convictions

Mueller has nabbed 38 people or entities with over 200 felonies. 52 are “collusion”

Winning!


She’s probably a mastermind criminal.
Not.

 

[Harry_BKK]

The house judiciary and intelligence committees have officially CLOSED the three-year investigation into Hillary’s emails

ZERO indictments
ZERO felonies
ZERO arrests
ZERO convictions

Mueller has nabbed 38 people or entities with over 200 felonies. 52 are “collusion”

Winning!


She’s probably a mastermind criminal.
Not.

Headed by Trey Gowdy, who led the Benghazi investigation which lasted about the same period and had:

ZERO indictments
ZERO felonies
ZERO arrests
ZERO convictions

When you read their letter to Mitch, the DOJ IG and and Mr. T's new waterboy AG, it comes across as what the whole charade was - a "nothingburger"

 

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[Harry_BKK]

This just popped up on my news feed and made me chuckle. Yet another lie from Mr. T as he promised big time to bring coal back:

But then the facts tell a very different story.