North Korea and US politics

[lockinlove]

Lol i just read these threads rarely comment.

You know what they say two's company three's a crowd. And i am not going to come between you and Harry lol

I do the opposite because it makes me want to comment. So I try not to even read them.

Trying to do paperwork and post in here at the same time is def not productive for work.

 

[lockinlove]

Its only a few that keep making it about Trump persona. They have nothing else. Media as well.

Stormy Daniels was a one nighter and it garnished all that coverage? Do I have that right?

Someone counted and CNN mentioned stormy daniels case 250 times in 24 hours in one day.

 

[slotplayer]

I do the opposite because it makes me want to comment. So I try not to even read them.

Trying to do paperwork and post in here at the same time is def not productive for work.

Now you know why most of my posts are a couple of lines.

 

[weesie]

It was always Trump 2. As soon as the first word in the title was written. I never thought otherwise. I think some people enjoy sitting back and watch all the arguing. I tried to stay out but sometimes you get reeled in by fake news

I really was interested in thoughts about N. Korea, but this is good reading too.

As you were!

 

[lockinlove]

Now you know why most of my posts are a couple of lines.

Guess Im used to the arguing since I have to deal with lawyers and insurance companies half the day and sometimes attend court cases. I do get a fair bit of downtime though so it for sure helps me kill time and pass the day talking about this stuff. Our internet is restricted to alot of sites but I guess not gambling related ones

 

[lockinlove]

I really was interested in thoughts about N. Korea, but this is good reading too.

As you were!

Its really quieted down. Dont see much happening until the summit I suppose, as long as Trump doesnt antagonize them too much in the meantime. I think he got the message though to hush up a bit. I seen a clip somewhere of him basically saying he was going to reel in his NK rhetoric.

 

[slotplayer]

Guess Im used to the arguing since I have to deal with lawyers and insurance companies half the day and sometimes attend court cases. I do get a fair bit of downtime though so it for sure helps me kill time and pass the day talking about this stuff. Our internet is restricted to alot of sites but I guess not gambling related ones

You certainly hold your own. I like your posts, so don't stop.

 

[slotplayer]

Its really quieted down. Dont see much happening until the summit I suppose, as long as Trump doesnt antagonize them too much in the meantime. I think he got the message though to hush up a bit. I seen a clip somewhere of him basically saying he was going to reel in his NK rhetoric.

I thought "T" was acting very statesmanlike on NK the last 2 weeks.

 

[lockinlove]

You certainly hold your own. I like your posts, so don't stop.

You know what I do every day? Not that its any relation to your post but just to go off topic a bit of how boring I am

I use my headphones to listen to past and present congressional hearings. And replay prior nights Tucker on fox. I dont mind some Hannity but he gets going too much on the Trump train. So as long as you dont mind listening to obvious bias, its ok. Sometimes Chris Cuomo on CNN if he has a good guest because he can get pretty funny too. Especially when hes shocked. Ive been watching old comey interviews and congressional hearings and new ones too. Even though I think hes a knucklehead hes a good speaker and really gives you some good insight on alot of things.

You ever want to see real blatant bias. Go watch the Hilary stuff and the hearings too and then watch the Trump stuff.

I tried listening to the Zuckerberg one but thats was just painful. Congress had no idea what facebook really was or what it did and the questions were absurd. I ended up shutting it off at some point.

Most people think congress hearings would be boring. Not when Trey Dowdy is there and Jason Chaffetz. Really sad Chaffetz is no longer there that guy was GREAT

Ive tried listening to Alex Jones just for some different content to see what the appeal is but thats near impossible to stand that. Its like 45 minutes of selling vitamins and 15 mins of ranting content by someone who is clearly on addarall. Maybe some of his content is accurate but I dont like his presentation.

And then some of my favs is listening to Andrew Scheer own Trudope. Been listening to some of the premier debates too but nowhere near as passionate as the american politics.

Would be interesting to see what other people listen to or watch in regards to politics. I might be missing some goodies out there.

 

[lockinlove]

I thought "T" was acting very statesmanlike on NK the last 2 weeks.

Havent really seen much lately aside from stormy, cohen, iran, mueller stuff... but just a quick clip saying he was going to behave himself about NK. Saying he was going to reign it in or something along those lines.

 

[goatwack]

When's Trump III out?

 

[Borgie]

When's Trump III out?

Hopefully they will change the lead actor and nobody will notice

 

[paul7388]

When's Trump III out?

Probably the day after this thread gets closed lol

 

[vorcirion]

Yeah US can't be trusted when they make deals. Dunno why NK should do any kind of deal with US. Gotta start bypassing US and other nations can make deals between themselves.

 

[goatwack]

Yeah US can't be trusted when they make deals. Dunno why NK should do any kind of deal with US. Gotta start bypassing US and other nations can make deals between themselves.

Well if you don't like the deal, just don't follow it. Like Trump did with the Iran nuclear deal

What is he doing

 

[paul7388]

Well if you don't like the deal, just don't follow it. Like Trump did with the Iran nuclear deal

What is he doing

Do not even think he knows himself what he is doing.

Now just waiting for the posts saying how great Trump is and how it was a great decision .

 

[goatwack]

We'll see a picture soon bandied about showing Iranians & Iraqis shaking hands, embracing and then hi- fiving each other

Followed by a video of every leader in the known world proclaiming in unison "Trump made this possible!"

 

[paul7388]

Well it was never a surprise we all knew it was going to happen.

Let him sanction every country if that's what he wants. Just watching his speech really makes my skin crawl.

But still there will be the ones that still think he is the second coming of christ. Then again maybe he is

 

[goatwack]

It's the businessman in him. He likely thinks Iran will come a runnin' begging to renegotiate the deal and initiate the sanction waivers....

 

[Steviedoo]

The problem is democrats were included in recommending his dismissal.

He told Trump 3 times he is not being investigated. Trump fires him and not long after he leaks some made up memos etc to his friend to leak to the media in order to get a special counsel after Trump. he is nothing more than a disgruntled former employee

What? you think comey leaked a memo...and then got the special counsel after him....

Trump clearly stated he fired him cuz of the Russia thing.

The special counsel was already there.

you state things on here as they are facts.

 

[Steviedoo]

Democrat AG of NY and long time critic who investigated Trump who clearly showed bias, resigns over accusations from 4 woman he physically beat them and sexually assaulted them. He was also known for his support for the MeToo movement and calling Trump out on being a womanizer.

Your typical hypocrite democrat politician

Sad!

And that NY investigation is not over, if you’re talking about the money laundering one.

And how did he show bias?

Not defending his reprehensible actions toward these women. He should be prosecuted like everyone else.

 

[Steviedoo]

I didn't say it was a lie or not a lie. I didn't post any comment or opinion whatsoever, these were all presumed by you, who ever made the video added the headline.

Politicians often soften their position to make some headway but that doesn't mean its their final position. (baby steps).

Oh my god presumed by me? Why wouldn’t I. You posted it. You’ve been arguing that the progressives want to take guns away from Americans. Why wouldn’t I presume that this is why you posted it so you could say see how they all lie about the gun issue.

Then why bother posting the video of some dem lying that she wants to take guns away if not to prove a point.

Like, do you think we are idiots or something. I don’t get it.

 

[Harry_BKK]

What? you think comey leaked a memo...and then got the special counsel after him....

Trump clearly stated he fired him cuz of the Russia thing.

The special counsel was already there.

you state things on here as they are facts.

Quote lockinlove: "Trump fires him and not long after he leaks some made up memos etc"

And some "made-up memos" at that. lockinlove knows it all as always, she has proof and the insider knowledge that that is the case!

Oh I forgot, Mr. T said they are "made-up", so it must be true!

 

[Harry_BKK]

yeah he resigned out of decency. Do you believe half the stuff you say?

Trump has more credible accusations more serious than beating and sexually abusing woman?

Maybe someone who is guilty resigns?

Can you read?

Everyone understands that I meant he had so much decency left to resign and not hang on to his post while denying all the charges and labeling everyone else as liars like Mr. T is doing. BTW, Mr. T promised he would sue all those women accusing him since in his view their are liars, to this day not a single one got sued! hmmm, why?

And contrary to Mr. T, this guy is getting investigated.

So now we start making distinctions between sexual assault variations to put your idol into a better light?

 

[Harry_BKK]

Its basically a paradox Harry lol.

So you are arguing history then to fit your own agenda once again? I just did a quick google search to see where its listed and the very first result

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And then this. But yep, carry on with your fun facts.

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Thanks for posting those Google results. Clearly shows where you are getting your knowledge from, skimming Google search headers and then posting the stuff here on CM!

 

[goatwack]

I think Donaldo should come out at one of these press conferences in drag.

......but will it win over his naysayers?

 

[Harry_BKK]

It's the businessman in him. He likely thinks Iran will come a runnin' begging to renegotiate the deal and initiate the sanction waivers....

Well it was never a surprise we all knew it was going to happen.

Let him sanction every country if that's what he wants. Just watching his speech really makes my skin crawl.

But still there will be the ones that still think he is the second coming of christ. Then again maybe he is

No surprise indeed, he was itching to do that and just looking for enough reasons to do it.

And as usual lying on national TV that is broadcasted worldwide. He can't stop even in such a speech.

 

[goatwack]

I thing reneging on the Iran pact is more of a dig at Obama than looking at the bigger picture in all fairness...

 

[Harry_BKK]

I thing reneging on the Iran pact is more of a dig at Obama than looking at the bigger picture in all fairness...

Yep, one more tick on his list of Obama-era achievements he rolled back / repealed / scrapped.

I see it as getting back at Obama for roasting him during the correspondents dinner. Remember Mr. T has to win, always, plus he will hit back 10 times harder.

 

[vorcirion]

I thing reneging on the Iran pact is more of a dig at Obama than looking at the bigger picture in all fairness...

I don't understand what there is to renegotiate. He hasn't been able to renegotiate anything. There just are no deals with Trump. He doesn't care about what makes sense for US. He only cares about himself and his voters and yeah erasing everything that Obama did.

 

[goatwack]

Yep, one more tick on his list of Obama-era achievements he rolled back / repealed / scrapped.

I see it as getting back at Obama for roasting him during the correspondents dinner. Remember Mr. T has to win, always, plus he will hit back 10 times harder.

It is personal with him for sure. His way or the highway....

He's showing how much of a politician he isn't. It's all cut & thrust - so far

 

[lockinlove]

Thanks for posting those Google results. Clearly shows where you are getting your knowledge from, skimming Google search headers and then posting the stuff here on CM!

Sure Harry. The only thing you are good at is I know you are but what am I. Well done.

Sorry I had to look and post google results for you, to show you its well known except to fun fact Harry. You cant just keep making things up and hope people believe it.

But well done. Backed into a corner and the only response you have is some sad attempt at a swipe. Weak!

 

[lockinlove]

Can you read?

Everyone understands that I meant he had so much decency left to resign and not hang on to his post while denying all the charges and labeling everyone else as liars like Mr. T is doing. BTW, Mr. T promised he would sue all those women accusing him since in his view their are liars, to this day not a single one got sued! hmmm, why?

And contrary to Mr. T, this guy is getting investigated.

So now we start making distinctions between sexual assault variations to put your idol into a better light?

Now using the term my idol? Running out things to make up I see and grasping at anything possible.

"Everyone understands" Now you speak for everyone and this is your arguments? Well "everyone" knows.

 

[goatwack]

I like to call these standoffs the 'Wikipedia Wars'

Never knew Google was part of the deal

 

[lockinlove]

Quote lockinlove: "Trump fires him and not long after he leaks some made up memos etc"

And some "made-up memos" at that. lockinlove knows it all as always, she has proof and the insider knowledge that that is the case!

Oh I forgot, Mr. T said they are "made-up", so it must be true!

Its called common sense. "Everyone" knows that he didnt have an issue til he got fired. Then suddenly he had these magical memos to leak.

 

[lockinlove]

Oh my god presumed by me? Why wouldn’t I. You posted it. You’ve been arguing that the progressives want to take guns away from Americans. Why wouldn’t I presume that this is why you posted it so you could say see how they all lie about the gun issue.

Then why bother posting the video of some dem lying that she wants to take guns away if not to prove a point.

Like, do you think we are idiots or something. I don’t get it.

You are really good at the hysteria. Alot of your posts start with "Wow" Wow. just. Wow" "oh my god"

Using these terms and hyperbole doesnt make you more right.

I can see a common theme here. One side posts articles, links, videos, official statements. The other side mostly posts random thoughts, using terms "everyone", insults, mocking, hyperbole or the very easy scapegoat "well that doesnt matter because I think"

When will you guys start posting some facts? Its starting to feel like we are arguing with sky yellers.

 

[lockinlove]

What? you think comey leaked a memo...and then got the special counsel after him....

Trump clearly stated he fired him cuz of the Russia thing.

The special counsel was already there.

you state things on here as they are facts.

Because they are facts. And no the special counsel was not already there.

If you guys arent going to bother to know simple details, whats the sense arguing with you guys? I should at the very least be getting paid for having to dig up and teach you guys everything. Im going to start charging you guys a rate

Shortly after his termination, in a move that he hoped would prompt a special counsel investigation, Comey asked a friend to share excerpts from

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, recounting a private conversation with Trump in February 2017, with the press.

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Sworn testimony in front of congress admitting it

 

[ladyhawke]

Now that Trump has pulled the USA out of the Iran nuclear deal, the question is - is this a valid withdrawal or a violation (by the USA) of the treaty?

Trump's main reason seems to be that Iran is violating "the spirit of the deal", rather than the actual deal itself. Sounds very much like "spirit of the bonus" crap.

Why not work with all the other signatories to try to improve the treaty, rather than withdrawing from (or violating) it completely, re-imposing draconian sanctions, and also threatening (bullying) other countries that don't agree.

Either way, does it not show that the USA might not be trusted to keep its deal with NK, particularly as Trump is well known for his constant flip-flopping?

Dangerous times still, I'm afraid.

 

[Steviedoo]

You are really good at the hysteria. Alot of your posts start with "Wow" Wow. just. Wow" "oh my god"


Using these terms and hyperbole doesnt make you more right.

I can see a common theme here. One side posts articles, links, videos, official statements. The other side mostly posts random thoughts, using terms "everyone", insults, mocking, hyperbole or the very easy scapegoat "well that doesnt matter because I think"

When will you guys start posting some facts? Its starting to feel like we are arguing with sky yellers.

Hysteria. Thanks. You’re pretty good at parading what you believe in are facts. Just inundating the posts with supposed facts and hoping that some will stick.
I am amazed at the lengths you will all go to to prove a point. That’s all. And if I want to express the way I do I will.

You telling us consistently and on every post that these are facts doesn’t make you right or make them the facts.

Problem is, the things you all post are not really facts. Sorry.


They are biased. 95 % of the videos slotplayer has posted are from Fox News . And you want us to believe they are not biased?
Imagine I was posting videos from cnn to prove anything I was saying.

Ex of diane f video. It is Biased because someone edited a video together to make diane f look like she’s lying and then when I say yeah she’s lying so what...it’s a video that was edited together with a 25 year difference. I can post a million videos of every politician lying including trump.
I get some flip, passive aggressive answer from slotplayer telling me he didn’t say that. Well sorry he posted the video for a reason. Why the hell would he post a video ....for what reason exactly?

And I can post anything from cnn to prove a point but I know that it is bias just like you and slot player posting anything from Fox News. They are a bias entertainment station masquerading as some sort of news station. And all they do is deliver the propoganda for the rnc and mr trump.


Anyway you keep on posting the “ supposed“facts and we will keep on disputing them.

Again this thread is toxic.

As you were.

 

[Steviedoo]

Because they are facts. And no the special counsel was not already there.

If you guys arent going to bother to know simple details, whats the sense arguing with you guys? I should at the very least be getting paid for having to dig up and teach you guys everything. Im going to start charging you guys a rate

Shortly after his termination, in a move that he hoped would prompt a special counsel investigation, Comey asked a friend to share excerpts from

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, recounting a private conversation with Trump in February 2017, with the press.

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Sworn testimony in front of congress admitting it

The entire trump camp was under investigation before mueller came on board.

FISA for carter page, Steele dossier, etc, Russian meddling...

 

[lockinlove]

Hysteria. Thanks. You’re pretty good at parading what you believe in are facts. Just inundating the posts with supposed facts and hoping that some will stick.
I am amazed at the lengths you will all go to to prove a point. That’s all. And if I want to express the way I do I will.

You telling us consistently and on every post that these are facts doesn’t make you right or make them the facts.

Problem is, the things you all post are not really facts. Sorry.


They are biased. 95 % of the videos slotplayer has posted are from Fox News . And you want us to believe they are not biased?
Imagine I was posting videos from cnn to prove anything I was saying.

Ex of diane f video. It is Biased because someone edited a video together to make diane f look like she’s lying and then when I say yeah she’s lying so what...it’s a video that was edited together with a 25 year difference. I can post a million videos of every politician lying including trump.
I get some flip, passive aggressive answer from slotplayer telling me he didn’t say that. Well sorry he posted the video for a reason. Why the hell would he post a video ....for what reason exactly?

And I can post anything from cnn to prove a point but I know that it is bias just like you and slot player posting anything from Fox News. They are a bias entertainment station masquerading as some sort of news station. And all they do is deliver the propoganda for the rnc and mr trump.


Anyway you keep on posting the “ supposed“facts and we will keep on disputing them.

Again this thread is toxic.

As you were.

Oh I see. So now video footage of comey stating the exact opposite is not facts? A letter showing Comey to be unprofessional at the suggestion of rosenstein and other top republicans and democrats is not facts. On and on we go.

I rarely have ever posted anything from fox news. Most of what I post is either facts from factcheck wikipedia or from the persons mouth. Or the left wing media that you guys hang of off.

You go ahead and keep on disputing them with 'nope you are wrong because well we said so"

This thread is only toxic because a select few like to post fun facts.

 

[lockinlove]

The entire trump camp was under investigation before mueller came on board.

FISA for carter page, Steele dossier, etc, Russian meddling...

So the director of the FBI tried to have a special counsel put in place, when one already existed eh? Guess why that isnt true? Because one didnt exist. Guess why Comey told Trump 3 times he wasnt under investigation? Because he wasnt.

Unless now you are calling Comey uninformed and a liar.

 

[slotplayer]

What? you think comey leaked a memo...and then got the special counsel after him....

Trump clearly stated he fired him cuz of the Russia thing.

The special counsel was already there.

you state things on here as they are facts.

I think he says it here.

 

[Steviedoo]

Oh I see. So now video footage of comey stating the exact opposite is not facts? A letter showing Comey to be unprofessional at the suggestion of rosenstein and other top republicans and democrats is not facts. On and on we go.

I rarely have ever posted anything from fox news. Most of what I post is either facts from factcheck wikipedia or from the persons mouth.

You go ahead and keep on disputing them with 'nope you are wrong because well we said so"

This thread is only toxic because a select few like post fun facts.

Yes lockinlove. You only post facts.
Slotplayer only post facts.

Harry posts fake news. And I, well I’m hysterical.

And everyone else on this thread except you and slotplayer are right and have all the facts.

 

[Steviedoo]

So the director of the FBI tried to have a special counsel put in place, when one already existed eh? Guess why that isnt true? Because one didnt exist. Guess why Comey told Trump 3 times he wasnt under investigation? Because he wasnt.

Unless now you are calling Comey uninformed and a liar.

No I thought you meant the investigation which is now the special counsel started after he got fired. But carry on like I’ve commiteed the crime of century by confusing the two.

 

[lockinlove]

No I thought you meant the investigation which is now the special counsel started after he got fired. But carry on like I’ve commiteed the crime of century by confusing the two.

You said to me


What? you think comey leaked a memo...and then got the special counsel after him....

Trump clearly stated he fired him cuz of the Russia thing.

The special counsel was already there.

you state things on here as they are facts

^^ that is basically stating I am up making things up


So how exactly how would you like me to react to never ending comments like this?

Or when Harry gets shown what he is spewing is completely made up and cherry picking and his response is "oh nice google search now we know where you get your knowledge from." Its not a bad thing to admit when you are wrong. I had no problem changing my stance on the nuclear deal after I read that most experts believe it should stay in place including many from Israel. But going on and and and digging a deeper hole and resorting to name calling and making things up makes me not even want to discuss it with someone. Its nothing but a hate filled agenda and will go to the ends of the earth to try and defend it. Regardless of facts.

 

[lockinlove]

Yes lockinlove. You only post facts.
Slotplayer only post facts.

Harry posts fake news. And I, well I’m hysterical.

And everyone else on this thread except you and slotplayer are right and have all the facts.

For example this is a fact

"I discussed with the FBI's leadership team whether I should be prepared to assure President-elect Trump that we were not investigating him personally. That was true; we did not have an open counter-intelligence case on him."



This is constantly the usage of facts by some. Or cherry picking articles and excerpts from history.

Everyone understands

 

[slotplayer]

Oh my god presumed by me? Why wouldn’t I. You posted it. You’ve been arguing that the progressives want to take guns away from Americans. Why wouldn’t I presume that this is why you posted it so you could say see how they all lie about the gun issue.

Then why bother posting the video of some dem lying that she wants to take guns away if not to prove a point.

Like, do you think we are idiots or something. I don’t get it.

my original post:
I have no idea of guns in the UK. What I'm getting at is if the UK had the same gun culture USA has the criminals would be using guns and not knives or acid.

The left ultimately wants to get rid of the 2nd amendment and I think that is why the NRA is so unreasonable.

you:
It’s been stated over and over. No one wants to get rid of the 2 nd amendment. When will you realize this is scare tactics from the nra.

There was a poll that showed people want some form of gun control.

me:
Because a progressive admitted it the other night on Tucker, no video of it though.

you:
A progressive like who?

me:
I forget his name, but tucker pressed him and he admitted it. I could not find the video.

you:
Right. That means it’s no one who has any influence or knows much.

Some semblance of gun law and maybe less media attention would help.

me:
We'd have to see the video now wouldn't we before we could determine the credibility of the guest.

you:
sorry Fox News like cnn is not news. it’s entertainment.

me:
I trust tucker, he's skeptical on almost everything. I find him honest as well.

end

I never said they all lie, all I said was Tucker had a progressive guest admit it and would have posted the video so others could judge for themselves, like I always try and do.

You're the one that took issue with it.

 

[lockinlove]

Well it was never a surprise we all knew it was going to happen.

Let him sanction every country if that's what he wants. Just watching his speech really makes my skin crawl.

But still there will be the ones that still think he is the second coming of christ. Then again maybe he is

Sorry to interrupt your guys cute 3 way massage session but this should surprise no one with Trumps america first policy and new tough stance reputation.

I remember when people in here went on and on that his tariffs were bad and would start a massive trade war. What ended up happening? After China suggested retaliatory tariffs, they caved on automobiles, opening their markets and are now in negotiations.

Trumps tough stance on North Korea. And now North Korea has agreed to give up its nuclear program, release hostages and have a summit with the USA. And yes we know, the people who cannot or will not give the guy credit state it was all China even though their overlords CNN and BBC and all the rest disagree

And now his tough stance on Iran. The same type of accusations are flying without even seeing where it will end up first.

 

[slotplayer]

Yes lockinlove. You only post facts.
Slotplayer only post facts.

Harry posts fake news. And I, well I’m hysterical.

And everyone else on this thread except you and slotplayer are right and have all the facts.

I think I post the facts. I try and not weave in speculation, assumption and opinion from the facts.