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Biden about to take the stage to address the nation as president - elect
I'm betting it oozes positivity and little or no vitriol
I'm betting it oozes positivity and little or no vitriol
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Best of 4 years President Trump, enjoy!
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volume 1 of a series of 12?
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At a guess I would say theres going to be a bit of a difference when/if the current lodger in the Whitehouse has to leave, he's going to go to court and claim squatters rights if he cant get the democratic result of the election overturned.
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Flag of Bidens hometown.
Looks familiar for some reason..
Looks familiar for some reason..
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The city was founded by Swedes on March 28, 1638; the flag was adopted for the city’s 325th anniversary commemoration. The seal shows Wilmington soon after its founding and suggests the milling and shipping industries that would become important in the city’s development.
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Thats actually a bit cool.
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Why is this expected? Seriously, enlighten me. In the past days Bannon said that Trump should behead Dr. Fauci, the Trump supporters had t-shirts that literally said "fuck your feelings" and they've been "owning libs" for 4 years.
So again, why should the Democrat side be civil towards those kind of people? Maybe if they apologise for their behaviour one could contemplate it.
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Really?..
Thought it was the division and intolerance etc You dems wanted to stop?
So now you won you turn into all you hated in the first place...
Makes perfect sense.
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Because we should rise above it and be better
People who are miserable will try to bring others down - misery loves company.
Be positive, maybe example will rub off
People who are miserable will try to bring others down - misery loves company.
Be positive, maybe example will rub off
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I'm not a Democrat, far from.
What I'm simply asking is why this is expected? Even while Trump supporters are still attacking Democrat supporters at this time. I'd say if the Trumpists stop attacking the D's on TV/Twitter/FB/wherever you could show kindness towards them. But die hards like Bannon, Stone, Gingrich are still spouting hate everywhere.
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Because we should rise above it and be better
People who are miserable will try to bring others down - misery loves company.
Be positive, maybe example will rub off
Be best.
FLOTUS Melania Trump's motto...
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you cant stamp out hate
but you might be able to kill it with kindness
or at least make it sting a little bit 
dont lend them any more power
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you cant stamp out hate
but you might be able to kill it with kindness
You can be kind all you want towards the die hards, they won't change. Do you really think that showering Bannon or Alex Jones with kindness is going to change them? Sadly I'm afraid Trumpism is here to stay and someone will run on that in 2024. They might not look or sound like Trump but the message will be the same.
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No, youre right, but as you say, if they arent likely to change, then expending any negative energy is a waste of time.
Kindness is free
I had a friend last night (a Trumpster) PMing raging on for like an hour about the riggedness and the theories etc.
I mostly responded with the likes of, well, I suppose we can wait and see, I'm sure it will all come to light.
When I wouldnt engage and battle, he toddled off
No amount of intelligent debate or discussion would have changed his mind; so figured, 0 point me being miserable as well
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No, youre right, but as you say, if they arent likely to change, then expending any negative energy is a waste of time.
Kindness is free
I had a friend last night (a Trumpster) PMing raging on for like an hour about the riggedness and the theories etc.
I mostly responded with the likes of, well, I suppose we can wait and see, I'm sure it will all come to light.
When I wouldnt engage and battle, he toddled off
No amount of intelligent debate or discussion would have changed his mind; so figured, 0 point me being miserable as well
I wasn't trying to gloat. Just a genuine question why it's expected from Democrat/Biden supporters to be kind to others on day 1 while (most) Trump supporters haven't shown any of that in the past 4 years. Like I said they've had shirts and slogans just to hurt those that supported Hillary Clinton 4 years ago and Joe Biden this time around. On the contrary I haven't seen much hate towards Trump supporters in the past days, there probably has been some, and I don't expect it.
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Things like this is what makes me think the hate from the Trumpsters towards basically anyone else who thinks differently will not stop and it's a base for them to run again in 2024
Also, don't be such a snowflake Ben. It's just a discussion
Also, don't be such a snowflake Ben. It's just a discussion
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Apologies, I read your post to fast.
I agree with you totally.
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What would you describe as ‘trumpism’
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The man lost (10 bucks says the wife too)
But he's got a kid, money (til his loans come due) - dudes pushing 80, go spend your money and time with family
You lost. Park the narcisism, move on; guy's gonna drive himself into a stroke
But he's got a kid, money (til his loans come due) - dudes pushing 80, go spend your money and time with family
You lost. Park the narcisism, move on; guy's gonna drive himself into a stroke
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What we've seen the past 4 years: nationalism and division mostly based on rumours and conspiracy theories. No ability to reach across the aisle to work together, demonizing everyone else that disagrees (even people from your own party like he did with John McCain),...
I don't really have a definition for it but those are the bullet points.
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But not all that where on the red team where the racist bigots they are made out to be.
Also nothing at all wrong with nationalism, to have pride is very far removed from anything unsavoury.
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I would describe it as lying through your teeth, never taking responsibility for your actions, not giving a f@@k about anyone else except for your cronies, never admitting you are wrong, never listening to people who know better, and being the bestest ever at spitting your dummy out.
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And mocking disabled people, he was good at that.
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Not all of them are, that's correct.
Nothing wrong with patriotism, nationalism on the other side...
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What’s so wrong with that?Not all of them are, that's correct.
Nothing wrong with patriotism, nationalism on the other side...
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I'm still laughing... The Four Seasons, inbetween an adult "book" shop and a crematorium. On the outskirts of Philly. Perfect setting for Rudy!
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In a connected and global world it's never a great idea to isolate yourself from the rest of the world.
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Many types of nationalism.
Also it can be confused with patriotism which is very different.
I think nationalism when supported in a healthy way personally isn’t a bad thing.
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Patriotism is being proud of your country and what it stands for, nationalism means you see your country as being superior and don't need anyone or anything.
I believe in working together towards a better world rather than countries working on their own to try and beat eachother, or worse.
Not even talking about other forms of nationalism right now.
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This ain’t going to be popular, all safe spaces opened!..
Some countries are superior to others, in many many ways.
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They might be, doesn't mean they should isolate themselves and think they don't need anyone. When push comes to shove and they do need someone the other side has to be the "bigger man" again?
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Naturally, all the major players are sufficiently backed by ‘ the big boys ‘ so to speak.
It’s always been that way, but a certain sovereignty is needed to keep ones cultures and way of life intact and not eroded.
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Like, anything, moderation.
It really depends how far you take nationalism
IE
I think my country is great (good)
I think my country is the best country in the world (ok)
My country is better than your country (er)
Then the slippery slope
My people are better than your people
My culture is better than your culture
My skin-colour is better than your skin colour
Loving your country is fantastic so long as it isnt yours and 'your kinds' interest take precedence above all other countries, thoughts, ideas, cultures, etc
We had a man like that once. It took a world war to say um....no
You want to tend your own bacytard? That's great. But ultimately, its really ONE planet we all inhabit
It really depends how far you take nationalism
IE
I think my country is great (good)
I think my country is the best country in the world (ok)
My country is better than your country (er)
Then the slippery slope
My people are better than your people
My culture is better than your culture
My skin-colour is better than your skin colour
Loving your country is fantastic so long as it isnt yours and 'your kinds' interest take precedence above all other countries, thoughts, ideas, cultures, etc
We had a man like that once. It took a world war to say um....no
You want to tend your own bacytard? That's great. But ultimately, its really ONE planet we all inhabit
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Some countries are better than others, just like cultures for example.
Nothing bad in saying that, it’s being honest.
It becomes a problem when you treat others differently because of it personally.
Nothing bad in saying that, it’s being honest.
It becomes a problem when you treat others differently because of it personally.
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I really don't think like this but....
I'll say that my country is better than your country Playford. What do you say about it? And we do have superior culture too! Maybe you should stop being the UK and become our vassal state.
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Your in Finland is it mate?
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Yup!
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I’d rather bring my daughter up in Finland than the U.K.
Make of that what you will.
Beautiful place.
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Well that was easy
Buuuuut! Would be boring if all people were like finnish people with finnish culture etc.
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As I said some countries and cultures are better than others, I’m glad you agree mate.Well that was easy
Buuuuut! Would be boring if all people were like finnish people with finnish culture etc.
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I don't agree sorry! Especially with culture. I mean how can some culture be superior to some other? Makes absolutely no sense to me.
In my opinion sure countries can improve themselves by learning from different countries. But if all countries were just...Finland. We'd have no one to learn from. Hard to improve things when lacking different viewpoints.
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Some places and countries you would have nothing to learn from as they are in the dark ages and never and won’t evolve sadly, same as some cultures.
It’s a great thing we are all different and not equal, in a way that kind of diversity works.
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All countries evolve somehow. Nothing stays the same. Your country and your culture will change too...there's no stopping it.
Finland changed quite a bit in a very short time too! Who knows what the future brings.
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Absolutely, fair comment.
I wasn’t being horrible, just how I see things.
If you have a spare room I’ll happily visit, promise not to bring my MAGA hat lol
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