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Mack you need to remember that Trump has done zero to help America over these past 4 years and build from that basis to find an ear in this thread
Great. Maybe you can tell me how Trump has helped americans.
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Great. Maybe you can tell me how Trump has helped americans.
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You did good job indeed! Wish we had more umm...festive halloween here too.
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- At some point between 2014 - 2019: That is the period where he worked on the Burisma board. He travelled quite a bit in Eastern Europe, Russia and ex-USSR countries. On one of those trips, his laptop is compromised (not necessarily for political reasons). Drunk and drugged, he probably let a hooker into his room, not knowing it is a trap. (I talk from experience as I travelled extensively in those countries. At no point did I let anyone into my room, nor did I leave even a shred of a paper, not even in the bin when I left the room in the morning to go to meetings. The prostitution is rampant in the big hotels. They walk around with bodyguards as big a mountain, bribe the concierge to get the room numbers of people who showed a platinum card for payment or the like)
- Hunter's laptop material has been circulating since April 2019 in Ukraine and other Eastern countries. Rudy heard the first time about in May 2019, long before that repairman comes into play. Some offered it for $5 million.
- Rudy finally got his hands on it. Involved in getting the material were Zlochevsky, Firtash, Pruss, Russian FSB, Gorbunenko and a few others. Zlochevsky is in deep legal trouble, while Firtash is fighting extradition to the US. Coincidence that they are involved? Firtash hoping that Mr T's head-bootlicker Billy Barr might skew the case in his favour?
- Anyway, Rudy gets the material, has it spiked to fit the narrative and then poured a little water over the laptops (not to damage too much). Then they "find" a "legally blind" repair main in Delaware to hand in the laptops who says he could not identify if the person was Hunter.
- The repairman who is "legally blind" wades through thousands of emails and shockingly finds the compromising messages. Right? Well, I have a bridge in the desert to sell if you believe that.
- He also wades through 25,000 or whatever they claim photos to find exactly those with Hunter and the crackpipe. Again, the brigde in the desert!
- The "legally blind" repairman has so much time on his hands and informs the FBI after understanding the entire case. Or did the FBI contact him? Apparently, he couldn't remember exactly how the laptop ended in the hands of the FBI.
- We know the rest of the story.
Why I think this is pretty close to the actual events:
- The laptops are apparently MacBooks Pro. Each and every MacBook gets registered to the buyer. It would be supereasy to release those details from the copied hard drive. Why not?
- The published emails could be easily shown with headers and metadata! Why not let a independent source authenticate them? Same goes for the pics.
- Zlochevsky himself has said clearly that Burisma had no contact nor any assistance from Joe Biden (this from a man who would benefit if that would be the case)
I am pretty sure a good part of the material is indeed from Hunter's laptops. I just don't think that the stuff what Ruuuuuudy and others are trying to sell as "super incriminating", "the biggest scandal in US history" or whatever "evidence" they claim to have to be real. Hannity, Tucker, Breitbart, OAN and Co have been hyperventilating for days, yet no one has shown any proper proof, nada, zilch. I lean towards thinking that they were forged or are downright fake emails/messages made to look like they are from Hunter.
Overall, this is "But Hillary's Emails" 2.0. Nothing more than a storm in a teacup and I can see Ruuuuuudy being in trouble at some point. For the Mr T cult, it will be of course the "deep state" that protects Biden.
A few more things for you to understand my thinking:
- Mr T campaign is basically broke. He had to do last-minute fundraisers to get cash to make it through the final stretch, a period where you would like to concentrate on convincing people that are undecided to vote for you. Those at the fundraiser are doing that, no matter what
- Ruuuuuuudy and Mr T kept this story as their "insurance" for a late October surprise. Remember, Ruuuuuudy promised in Dec, Jan and Feb that he will release damaging info about Hunter Biden. Why hasn't he done it so far? The decision was made to wait until it can have the largest impact, e.g. just before the election in the case that Mr T is trailing badly in polls.
- Ruuuuuudy now claims he got the info via his lawyer (wow, that "legally blind" repairman had that lawyer on speed dial I suppose, yet another bridge in the desert) in September of this year only. So how could he know about it in Dec, Jan and Feb?
- Mr T and his ilk never manage to keep a story straight. They always take turns and twists. If you launch a fake story, then at least have a good script and then stick to it.
Might not be all, but I think you get the gist. I will come back at the end of December to see how good or bad my guess was.
- Hunter's laptop material has been circulating since April 2019 in Ukraine and other Eastern countries. Rudy heard the first time about in May 2019, long before that repairman comes into play. Some offered it for $5 million.
- Rudy finally got his hands on it. Involved in getting the material were Zlochevsky, Firtash, Pruss, Russian FSB, Gorbunenko and a few others. Zlochevsky is in deep legal trouble, while Firtash is fighting extradition to the US. Coincidence that they are involved? Firtash hoping that Mr T's head-bootlicker Billy Barr might skew the case in his favour?
- Anyway, Rudy gets the material, has it spiked to fit the narrative and then poured a little water over the laptops (not to damage too much). Then they "find" a "legally blind" repair main in Delaware to hand in the laptops who says he could not identify if the person was Hunter.
- The repairman who is "legally blind" wades through thousands of emails and shockingly finds the compromising messages. Right? Well, I have a bridge in the desert to sell if you believe that.
- He also wades through 25,000 or whatever they claim photos to find exactly those with Hunter and the crackpipe. Again, the brigde in the desert!
- The "legally blind" repairman has so much time on his hands and informs the FBI after understanding the entire case. Or did the FBI contact him? Apparently, he couldn't remember exactly how the laptop ended in the hands of the FBI.
- We know the rest of the story.
Why I think this is pretty close to the actual events:
- The laptops are apparently MacBooks Pro. Each and every MacBook gets registered to the buyer. It would be supereasy to release those details from the copied hard drive. Why not?
- The published emails could be easily shown with headers and metadata! Why not let a independent source authenticate them? Same goes for the pics.
- Zlochevsky himself has said clearly that Burisma had no contact nor any assistance from Joe Biden (this from a man who would benefit if that would be the case)
I am pretty sure a good part of the material is indeed from Hunter's laptops. I just don't think that the stuff what Ruuuuuudy and others are trying to sell as "super incriminating", "the biggest scandal in US history" or whatever "evidence" they claim to have to be real. Hannity, Tucker, Breitbart, OAN and Co have been hyperventilating for days, yet no one has shown any proper proof, nada, zilch. I lean towards thinking that they were forged or are downright fake emails/messages made to look like they are from Hunter.
Overall, this is "But Hillary's Emails" 2.0. Nothing more than a storm in a teacup and I can see Ruuuuuudy being in trouble at some point. For the Mr T cult, it will be of course the "deep state" that protects Biden.
A few more things for you to understand my thinking:
- Mr T campaign is basically broke. He had to do last-minute fundraisers to get cash to make it through the final stretch, a period where you would like to concentrate on convincing people that are undecided to vote for you. Those at the fundraiser are doing that, no matter what
- Ruuuuuuudy and Mr T kept this story as their "insurance" for a late October surprise. Remember, Ruuuuuudy promised in Dec, Jan and Feb that he will release damaging info about Hunter Biden. Why hasn't he done it so far? The decision was made to wait until it can have the largest impact, e.g. just before the election in the case that Mr T is trailing badly in polls.
- Ruuuuuudy now claims he got the info via his lawyer (wow, that "legally blind" repairman had that lawyer on speed dial I suppose, yet another bridge in the desert) in September of this year only. So how could he know about it in Dec, Jan and Feb?
- Mr T and his ilk never manage to keep a story straight. They always take turns and twists. If you launch a fake story, then at least have a good script and then stick to it.
Might not be all, but I think you get the gist. I will come back at the end of December to see how good or bad my guess was.
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Might not be all, but I think you get the gist. I will come back at the end of December to see how good or bad my guess was.
A few thoughts, not one way or the other: the scenario you describe of ukraine and the laptop being compromised there I find not implausible, however Rudy seems rather relaxed to be involved in such a scheme which could be found out [is he that protected?] but on the flip side joe biden doesn't seem particularly peturbed by this laptop story either [knows it's a nothing burger?]
Also have seen on twitter posters saying Joe's lake house in delaware is not far from this shop [5 miles]
This recent article from a website called 'the detroit news' by nolan finley echoes my thought the story needed looking into - but doesn't seem to realise the time has run out, rudy ought to be asked that, how long have you sat on this?
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Finley: Let's find out if Biden is a crook
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Wanting to get to the bottom of the Hunter Biden email allegations is not akin to an endorsement of President Donald Trump's reelection.
Just because you might think Joe Biden is better than Trump no matter what, you still should want to know just how bad Biden is.
Who knows if there's any truth here, or if it's just an elaborate scam to discredit Biden before the election?
But we should be digging hard to find out. It's worth noting that, unlike many of the allegations raised against Trump, these assertions come with on-the-record sources and physical evidence attached.
Neither Hunter nor the Biden campaign have denied the son's ownership of the laptop, nor that he sent or received the emails in question.
Why wouldn't we want to know if a man who is days away from the presidency is on the take?
It's not out of the question. A
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story examining how Biden was able to buy a luxury beach home on a senator's salary recirculated this week on social media. The answer, according to the Times, was that wealthy supporters, some with an interest in legislation before Biden's Senate banking committee, "bought his old house for top dollar, sold him four acres at cost and lent him $500,000 to build his new home." What? That doesn't sound like someone who will restore honor and credibility to the Oval Office
The Hunter Biden charges deserve more shoe leather. If it’s a fake, Biden’s name should be cleared. If it’s real, America ought to know before it replaces one crook with another.
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Absolutely agree mack.
Investigate and get to the bottom of it. But then, the NYP, Ruuuuuudy etc would not publish anything to authenticate the material. Not a single shred so far. Why not if they are so sure of their story? You would be surprised what Apple stores on a MacBook, iPad, iPhone etc.
As for his house. He bought a derelict house in 1974 and sold it fully renovated in 1996 for a good profit, not an unusual high price according to records. And yes, it was to some bank person. He used then the profit to buy the land for his new house. $350,000 for four acres of land doesn't sound like a low price to me.
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Its funny how some posters want to go every detail of Joe Biden and his family with a fine toothcomb when some kind of theory or revelation is posted on the net, yet they can hastily brush aside clear evidence of Trump & family's underhand and borderline illegal activity ( and some activity that has crossed into illegal territory)? Have any of the posters had anything to say about the fact that the Trump charitable foundation was closed down because the family were draining it? What about the proven tax dodging of Donald and his cohorts?
The double standards are unbelievable, Biden has to prove every bit of mud flung at him is wrong whereas Donald et al just shrug their collective shoulders and say "so what, we are Republicans and the Democrats are all crooks".
But then again several posters on here have proved that you can defend the indefensible, simply by ignoring it and refusing to look at the evidence.
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Wonder how big hard drive he had...
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That silly old sod wouldn’t have it in him surely haha
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I will ask again, who is Hunter Bidens running mate?
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In case anyone needed their memories refreshed, here's what Donald Trump and his family actually did, this was fact, this was proven. This was misappropriating funds from their charity.
It wasnt found on any damaged hard drive, its not part of a QAnon conspiracy, its fact and went through court.
But the silence from his supporters around things like this is deafening, the fact that so many of his campaign staff have went to jail means nothing, they just want to find that one bit of dirt on Joe Biden that will prove they are right to support the Donald.
It wasnt found on any damaged hard drive, its not part of a QAnon conspiracy, its fact and went through court.
But the silence from his supporters around things like this is deafening, the fact that so many of his campaign staff have went to jail means nothing, they just want to find that one bit of dirt on Joe Biden that will prove they are right to support the Donald.
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Trumps intelligence agencies all told him the Russians are feeding
Alleged Hunter Biden sex tapes are uploaded on Chinese video site linked to Steve Bannon
wasn’t steve bannon arrested on guo wengui’s yacht this summer....
how many people from trump’s administration have been arrested, gone to jail...
Alleged Hunter Biden sex tapes are uploaded on Chinese video site linked to Steve Bannon
- Multiple videos and images claiming to show Hunter Biden in sexually explicit scenes and using drugs were shared on Chinese video platform GTV
- GTV is a subsidiary of GTV Media Group, which was founded by former Trump senior adviser Steve Bannon and Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui in April 2020
- The clips were uploaded by a single user Saturday night and one of the videos accuses Joe Biden of being '100% controlled by the Chinese Communist party'
- It's not clear if the footage came from the 'laptop from hell', but some images appear to be from a third party laptop
wasn’t steve bannon arrested on guo wengui’s yacht this summer....
how many people from trump’s administration have been arrested, gone to jail...
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I wonder if some posters here have heard about "deepfakes".
Or simple Photoshopping in case of pictures
Or simple Photoshopping in case of pictures
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Sounds like a make-up, apply deepfake once daily and look beautiful lolI wonder if some posters here have heard about "deepfakes".
Or simple Photoshopping in case of pictures
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I wonder if some posters here have heard about "deepfakes".
Or simple Photoshopping in case of pictures
innocent m'lord, never heard or seen a deepfake or fakedeep video
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innocent m'lord, never heard or seen a deepfake or fakedeep video
Did I hear innocent?
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Are you sure it wasn't Mister Universe? Eric said on Fox News he's part of the LGBTQ community.
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Is she really a lesbian? Any leaks on that?
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Well, Aubrey should know. After all, she "reportedly" was the "soulmate" of T Jr for some time (while Jr was married and father to a few little T Jr Jrs. Aubrey was one of the reasons for the divorce, or maybe the main one).
You believe the Hunter story without questioning. Why not this one?
Investigate!!!!
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Coulda fooled me this was the real deal if I hadn't watched it!
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lol, I cracked laughing a few times
and to anyone, it aint an anti trump or anti biden video
it's just good and funny
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Something for you to peruse:
Excerpts:
"The host was Arthur Schwartz, a New York public relations man close to Trump’s eldest son, Donald Jr The guests were a White House lawyer, Eric Herschmann, and a former deputy White House counsel, Stefan Passantino, according to two people familiar with the meeting...
The three had pinned their hopes for reelecting the president on a fourth guest, a straight-shooting Wall Street Journal White House reporter named Michael Bender. They delivered the goods to him there: a cache of emails detailing Hunter Biden’s business activities, and, on speakerphone, a former business partner of Hunter Biden’s named Tony Bobulinski. Bobulinski was willing to go on the record in The Journal with an explosive claim: that Joe Biden, the former vice president, had been aware of, and profited from, his son’s activities. The Trump team left believing that The Journal would blow the thing open and their excitement was conveyed to the president...
Trump and his allies expected the Journal story [about Hunder Biden] to appear Monday, Oct 19, according to Bannon. That would be late in the campaign, but not too late — and could shape that week’s news cycle heading into the crucial final debate last Thursday. An “important piece” in The Journal would be coming soon, Trump told aides on a conference call that day...
As the Trump team waited with excited anticipation for a Journal exposé, the newspaper did its due diligence: Bender and Beckett handed the story off to a well-regarded China correspondent, James Areddy, and a Capitol Hill reporter who had followed the Hunter Biden story, Andrew Duehren. Areddy interviewed Bobulinski. They began drafting an article.
Then things got messy. Without warning his notional allies, Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor and now a lawyer for Trump, burst onto the scene with the tabloid version of the McLean crew’s carefully laid plot. Giuliani delivered a cache of documents of questionable provenance — but containing some of the same emails — to The New York Post, a sister publication to The Journal in Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. Giuliani had been working with the former Trump aide Steve Bannon, who also began leaking some of the emails to favoured right-wing outlets."
Something for you to peruse:
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"The host was Arthur Schwartz, a New York public relations man close to Trump’s eldest son, Donald Jr The guests were a White House lawyer, Eric Herschmann, and a former deputy White House counsel, Stefan Passantino, according to two people familiar with the meeting...
The three had pinned their hopes for reelecting the president on a fourth guest, a straight-shooting Wall Street Journal White House reporter named Michael Bender. They delivered the goods to him there: a cache of emails detailing Hunter Biden’s business activities, and, on speakerphone, a former business partner of Hunter Biden’s named Tony Bobulinski. Bobulinski was willing to go on the record in The Journal with an explosive claim: that Joe Biden, the former vice president, had been aware of, and profited from, his son’s activities. The Trump team left believing that The Journal would blow the thing open and their excitement was conveyed to the president...
Trump and his allies expected the Journal story [about Hunder Biden] to appear Monday, Oct 19, according to Bannon. That would be late in the campaign, but not too late — and could shape that week’s news cycle heading into the crucial final debate last Thursday. An “important piece” in The Journal would be coming soon, Trump told aides on a conference call that day...
As the Trump team waited with excited anticipation for a Journal exposé, the newspaper did its due diligence: Bender and Beckett handed the story off to a well-regarded China correspondent, James Areddy, and a Capitol Hill reporter who had followed the Hunter Biden story, Andrew Duehren. Areddy interviewed Bobulinski. They began drafting an article.
Then things got messy. Without warning his notional allies, Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor and now a lawyer for Trump, burst onto the scene with the tabloid version of the McLean crew’s carefully laid plot. Giuliani delivered a cache of documents of questionable provenance — but containing some of the same emails — to The New York Post, a sister publication to The Journal in Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. Giuliani had been working with the former Trump aide Steve Bannon, who also began leaking some of the emails to favoured right-wing outlets."
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Here a perfect example of a CON FROM THE DON.
Kayleigh clearly says "this is his healthcare plan".
Kayleigh clearly says "this is his healthcare plan".
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Seems Trump just quit dealing with the pandemic. No surprise though since he's a completely useless moron.
And from the short clips that I saw he also got bonespurs during '60 minutes'-interview and wobbled away from it.
So no ideas for the 2nd term, too dumb to deal with the pandemic or any other crisis he has created. And trumpsters still want him to get a 2nd term. Guess they're really really afraid of people of color since I can't figure out anything else why they'd vote for Trump still.
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He’s our god emperor, the man is
please have some respect, many thanks.
Hes our god emperor and saviour, the mans a legend and the second term will be biblical.
please have some respect, many thanks.
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I think it is likely Mr murdoch decided the story [with it's tawdry elements] was more suited for his tabloid to break.
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Gonna watch that series again if I get good news from the election! Trump ruined it for me for the moment.
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Actually not seen it.
Its gotten pretty good reviews right?
Also, @Playford7
Its just a bit of banter, thats why i added the heart, so you know its sent with love.
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Actually not seen it.
Its gotten pretty good reviews right?
Also, @Playford7
Its just a bit of banter, thats why i added the heart, so you know its sent with love.
It's a really really good series. Smart, funny etc. And Toby is just <3
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Too late, you've triggered him.
He's currently gearing up as if he's about to start this first day in Post Apocalypse Zombieland.
Not even the Swedish Wilderness can save you.
He's currently gearing up as if he's about to start this first day in Post Apocalypse Zombieland.
Not even the Swedish Wilderness can save you.
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Gif is from a superhero movie called Guardians.
Russias version of Avengers more or less.
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One of the heroes has the power to become a bear.
Probably a pretty good movie, despite the 3.9/10 rating on imdb.
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It also shows that they were all in on it, all the way up to the head of the crime family AKA Mr T!
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I cant believe it went from Russian superhero movie straight back to politics.
Lets go back to Russia.
Lets go back to Russia.
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It also shows that they were all in on it, all the way up to the head of the crime family AKA Mr T!
I agree Trump and close family/advisers were trying to get the story aired, probably panicked by the polls too.
Is it going to make a difference to the way people vote, not sure, but the attempts by twitter and 'democrat leaning' media to ignore or suppress it looks worse imo.
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What exactly looks worse? That they don't fall for the same trick as in 2016? You know, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice.....and all.
And what exactly has been corroborated/authenticated? They still have no shown any metadata, nor given any material to an independent source for confirmation.
Mack, they had the material for nearly a year or maybe even longer. I said in another post, Ruuuuuuudy was bragging in Dec, Jan and Feb that he would have the goods on Hunter. This was kept under the lid for an opportune moment. And all in Mr T's circle knew about it.
If it is such a crime as they claim it is, why not go to the police earlier?
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I remember watching a show like this a long time ago, but there was these big robots that just went for anyone that got too close to them.
Anyone know what that show was called?
This looks like a more tame version of the same show.
Anyone know what that show was called?
This looks like a more tame version of the same show.
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Well all those things you bring up would be part of the coverage, the biden business deals side of the laptop story may not amount to anything 'wrong' but the way the media presented Joe in the ukraine/impeachment debates created a rod for their own back in a way, the laptop makes the biden backstory no longer seem so straightforward.
Has rudy cleverly played on the public's fear of corruption in politics or there is something here, I know you think there isn't, but unless there is some 'straight & open' coverage people may suspect no smoke without fire.
CNN could have rudy on and ask him these questions [maybe they have by now] but they might fear it gives the story oxygen, I think though the truth is there is not enough time to get to the bottom of things - even to disprove the accusations etc..
I am suspicious this is why Rudy left it late in the game, because he knows, embarrasing things aside re Hunter, there isn't much actual illegal wrongdoing in the business part of the story. [that could be pinned on Joe]
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Robot wars on the bbc had big robots lingering around, use to be quite good.
Edit: that guy's face at 2.50, he was not a happy chap! looked like a mismatch at the start.
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There are tabloids in US, UK and many other countries who have very flexible standards what they print to their papers, but happily most are not willing right away to make story from pictures who any single person (including all of us) could have made at home.
Would you really as seriously taken news paper or media, publish story with these "evidence"? I start to hope everything comes to be true at it seems so many really believe it already based on.... what? Some random photos could be taken by anyone plus extra as extra topping, some porn and drugs.... Seriously?
Would you really as seriously taken news paper or media, publish story with these "evidence"? I start to hope everything comes to be true at it seems so many really believe it already based on.... what? Some random photos could be taken by anyone plus extra as extra topping, some porn and drugs.... Seriously?
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What coverage should there be if they do not hand over the material to have it properly vetted?
Here's a good pic on why only the nuttiest of the nuttiest on Faux, Breitbart and other Mr T sycophants are hyperventilating right now.
And as for Ruuuuuuuuuudy on CNN: "The truth is not the truth!"
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Yes, thats the one!!
Sir Killalot ♥
Remember that one used to just pick up bots and throw them down the flame-trap or whatever it was called.
Good times. =)
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What coverage should there be if they do not hand over the material to have it properly vetted?
Here's a good pic on why only the nuttiest of the nuttiest on Faux, Breitbart and other Mr T sycophants are hyperventilating right now.
And as for Ruuuuuuuuuudy on CNN: "The truth is not the truth!"
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good point about the vetting, but haven't the fbi also got the actual laptop, had it for a year? If so they should have been able to verify it and provide that information to the news outlets.
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yeah it was a good program, I always wanted the house robots to get bashed but none of the contestant's machines could do it.
Not sure if it's on these days, what they should have done is squared the house robots off in a finale, don't now if they ever did that.
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The FBI usually does not confirm or deny an investigation. The laptop could be part of a much larger investigation based on what they found on it. Nobody really knows and should not spread gospel but then who's to stop Hannity and Co to throw out nonsense?
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Size and weight difference is too big for that to happen i think.
Im not sure what the limit is for contestants, but they clearly dont apply to the house robots.
Says on Wiki it aired from 1998 to 2004 and from 2016 to 2018.
The old gladiator shows were pretty cool aswell.
The concept was always the same, but it was a bit more brutal in the early days.
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