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I would love to humor you for hours but some of us have to get up very early in the morning for a thing called work
Still you keep posting, spending the same time it would have taken to point to some of the 500 pages filled with conspiracies.
Weird how that works. =)
 
Still you keep posting, spending the same time it would have taken to point to some of the 500 pages filled with conspiracies.
Weird how that works. =)

There was one only the other week, that he was faking having covid-19? or the russia collusion theory with the trump campaign, not sure how the line is drawn between an allegation of wrongdoing and conspiracy theory though.
 
There was one only the other week, that he was faking having covid-19? or the russia collusion theory with the trump campaign, not sure how the line is drawn between an allegation of wrongdoing and conspiracy theory though.
Then my follow-up question would be why these are dismissed, but the ones going in the other direction are believed.

I said would be, because ive already had my fill of politics for a couple weeks now. :P

Its back to heartwarming videos about Finland.

 
I have stated before that I believe Trump will be re-elected, and unfortunately, the current Biden email scandal will probably be the last nail in the Democratic coffin.

I truly hope the election will have a different outcome, but I am not convinced.

However, here is a very chilling assessment of the situation by Politico:

"Whether he is defeated in 11 days or leaves office in four years, Trump and Trumpism will still be with us, for decades to come.

He has created an atmosphere that is badly imbalanced, one in which the extremism that once composed society’s outer rings now features at its nucleus. We will not put hate back in the bottle for at least a couple of decades, because there are a lot of young people today who think that hate is okay.”
 
Story 1 - China

- this happened in 2017 when Joe Biden was a private citizen!!!
- the British partner Gilliar stated: Joe Biden was not involved and the venture never took off, nor produced revenue
- public company records would show that, and there are none
- The Bobulinsky guy is not a Republican, he and his family donated only to Democrats and suddenly he is a big buddy of the Mr T campaign, Mr T himself etc. Really??? FYI, he had a court order issued to pay over $600K to the Chinese company and they put an early lien on his house. So this guy needs money.
- One of the sites posted a message from a Blueberry with the operator being MTS, a Russian telco which operates in Russia only. :rolleyes:

Story 2 - Laptop

- Hunter, who lives in California, travels across the continent to hand his laptop for repair in a shop in Delaware and forgets about it. The travel might be OK as he could have visited his father but to not pick it up knowing he has all that stuff on the laptop is very questionable. (and that all that stuff is authentic is even more questionable).
- So far, all information has come from questionable news outlets/conspiracy theory sites/far-right sites. None has released e.g. the emails with headers and metadata so it can be authenticated
- Ratcliffe said "not part of Russian disinformation" but admitted later that he had not seen the laptop. So he was lying in his statement. :rolleyes:
- FBI did not confirm or deny anything at all
- All reporting is "alledgedly" "reportedly" etc. So no one has seen or confirmed a single thing :rolleyes:

I will wait for the FBI to release a statement/confirmation. This has all the hallmarks of a Russian operation and Ruuuuuuuudy right in the middle of it.
 
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- All reporting is "alledgedly" "reportedly" etc. So no one has seen or confirmed a single thing :rolleyes:
Ever heard of the expression 'No smoke without fire'?

Because that certainly appears to be the current mentality in the USA.

Anything that Trump, or Giuliani, or any of his other minions, throw out into the public domain, without even the benefit of verifiable evidence, is unilaterally accepted as gospel by many Americans.

And that is a very difficult battle to win against.
 
The thing pretty much is, that even Biden Jr would have left his laptop with it's hard drive full of pictures him having sex and taking drugs, his all old emails how he make businesses his fathers names and just continue list with most weird stories you get in your head, people with some brain functioning just take this kind of story with quite big suspicious, whole chain of happenings is bit weird, timing as well, people who and how got these "evidences" and way how they wanna publish these bit by bit every day.

Doesn't matter who you support to president or do you like democratics or rebublicans, but this kind of story with this timing and somebody seriously buy it all with few pictures without any original docs with metadata etc...?

Press critique now on internet time is much harder than 30 years ago, also with all information you find from web, you always find story/side you want and usually most weird stories have loads of noice how people are brainwasfed with fake main stream media and should read these "alt news pages" which are "bit" one sided and often are something that you really have to be willing to believe to take them seriously, but many are happy to believe everything they want to.

If you take objective look of these late "scandals" about Bidens son, you really think it sounds reliable story n way how it's handled? There are also reasons why not all news papers publish all shite without evidences (which can then be called that they wanna hide a truth), but probably you don't wanna get your name in stories which feels way more imagination than any movies.

I'm happy to see all the evidences and proven facts that Hunder and Daddy have been doing loads of bad things and runnid democrat pedophile ring and are pure mafia family (yes and boy have used drugs and had sex, why that has been so big thin now, it;s been known for long and not much to do with president), but would make my voting decision to based on last week shit storm, fck no and can't believe that many others either. Qanon peeps don't have to change their minds and their websites and groups are just something what most can't take seriously even trying.

Even Trump himself is quite quiet about this topic, could think that he would be most publishing this shit but even he can't go far there. Think last time when these Biden businesses were investigated, it was Mr T who was nearest to go to court so not something he really is wishing go too deep back but bit smoke before elections do well when others do it for you, every vote counts and he don't seem to get too many to miss any.
 
The thing pretty much is, that even Biden Jr would have left his laptop with it's hard drive full of pictures him having sex and taking drugs, his all old emails how he make businesses his fathers names and just continue list with most weird stories you get in your head, people with some brain functioning just take this kind of story with quite big suspicious, whole chain of happenings is bit weird, timing as well, people who and how got these "evidences" and way how they wanna publish these bit by bit every day.

Doesn't matter who you support to president or do you like democratics or rebublicans, but this kind of story with this timing and somebody seriously buy it all with few pictures without any original docs with metadata etc...?

Press critique now on internet time is much harder than 30 years ago, also with all information you find from web, you always find story/side you want and usually most weird stories have loads of noice how people are brainwasfed with fake main stream media and should read these "alt news pages" which are "bit" one sided and often are something that you really have to be willing to believe to take them seriously, but many are happy to believe everything they want to.

If you take objective look of these late "scandals" about Bidens son, you really think it sounds reliable story n way how it's handled? There are also reasons why not all news papers publish all shite without evidences (which can then be called that they wanna hide a truth), but probably you don't wanna get your name in stories which feels way more imagination than any movies.

I'm happy to see all the evidences and proven facts that Hunder and Daddy have been doing loads of bad things and runnid democrat pedophile ring and are pure mafia family (yes and boy have used drugs and had sex, why that has been so big thin now, it;s been known for long and not much to do with president), but would make my voting decision to based on last week shit storm, fck no and can't believe that many others either. Qanon peeps don't have to change their minds and their websites and groups are just something what most can't take seriously even trying.

Even Trump himself is quite quiet about this topic, could think that he would be most publishing this shit but even he can't go far there. Think last time when these Biden businesses were investigated, it was Mr T who was nearest to go to court so not something he really is wishing go too deep back but bit smoke before elections do well when others do it for you, every vote counts and he don't seem to get too many to miss any.

Especially because with Mr T there is clear evidence, black on white in tax returns and public records. Two examples:

1. Mr T's hidden China account

But Trump’s plans in China have been largely driven by a different company, Trump International Hotels Management — the one with a Chinese bank account. The company has direct ownership of THC China Development, but is also involved in management of other Trump-branded properties around the world, and it is not possible to discern from its tax records how much of its financial activity is China-related. It normally reports a few million dollars in annual income and deductible expenses.

In 2017, the company reported an unusually large spike in revenue — some $17.5 million, more than the previous five years' combined. It was accompanied by a $15.1 million withdrawal by Trump from the company’s capital account.


2. Chinese condo buyers

During the 2016 campaign, a shell company controlled by a Chinese couple from Vancouver bought 11 units, for $3.1 million, in the Las Vegas tower Trump co-owns with the casino magnate Phil Ruffin.

3. Chinese Condo buyer II

And not long after winning the 2016 election, Trump reported selling a penthouse in one of his Manhattan buildings for $15.8 million to a Chinese-American businesswoman named Xiao Yan Chen, who bought the unit, previously occupied by Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner, in an off-market transaction. Chen runs an international consulting firm and reportedly has high-level connections to government and political elites in China.

We could do this all day without end, not sure though if Mr T would be at the better end. There is an irrefutable clear paper trail for his stuff but only unproven/unauthenticated innuendo/bits of information in VP Biden's case.
 
I'm wondering who Hunter Biden's running mate is for the Presidency as he seems to be the focus of Republican attention these days.
Just as well dopey Joe has some morals and fights on his politics, not on belittling the Trump hanger ons.

That pretty much tells that people use what they have (or don't have but get something from head). As stated, Mr T himself is not really much himself going to these accusations anymore, he got already troubles around investigations once and other hand like Harry pointed out, it needs bit more than laptop and few emails (spiced by sex and drugs) to make Biden look absolute mafia guy compared to Mr T.

Throwing random quite absurd shite at this point is kind of thing that it's next to impossible to prove to be not true that nobody haven't even bothered and most of people and news (good we have "real meadias" who publish these) haven't more than laugh for these stories.

I could start to post pictures of "emails" with somebody names and wanted text in them and just aks people to prove them 100% wrong, quiet hard to do and not worth of time. Just don't get wondered about anything where some instances are easily ready to go to get something they want.
 
That pretty much tells that people use what they have (or don't have but get something from head). As stated, Mr T himself is not really much himself going to these accusations anymore, he got already troubles around investigations once and other hand like Harry pointed out, it needs bit more than laptop and few emails (spiced by sex and drugs) to make Biden look absolute mafia guy compared to Mr T.

Throwing random quite absurd shite at this point is kind of thing that it's next to impossible to prove to be not true that nobody haven't even bothered and most of people and news (good we have "real meadias" who publish these) haven't more than laugh for these stories.

I could start to post pictures of "emails" with somebody names and wanted text in them and just aks people to prove them 100% wrong, quiet hard to do and not worth of time. Just don't get wondered about anything where some instances are easily ready to go to get something they want.

The fact that the New York Post, Ruuuuuuuudy and Bannon refuse to hand over the complete email/pics etc with headers & metadata and instead keep posting PDFs and JPEGs of the "incriminating evidence" is to me a clear sign that not all is kosher.

If all is so true and authentic, why not show the data? Simples to corroborate the story, if you want. Not so simples, when some of the stuff is forged or tweaked.
 
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If you ever feel bored, here's something to read that covers the last 3.5 years. :D

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Copied this out in light of the current Hunter saga. Contrary to the sketchy "evidence" there, here are facts, paper trails etc to establish a clear case. Broidy pleaded guilty in the meantime.

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Copied this out in light of the current Hunter saga. Contrary to the sketchy "evidence" there, here are facts, paper trails etc to establish a clear case. Broidy pleaded guilty in the meantime.

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Gonna need a TL;DR on this... Oh my :D
 
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Copied this out in light of the current Hunter saga. Contrary to the sketchy "evidence" there, here are facts, paper trails etc to establish a clear case. Broidy pleaded guilty in the meantime.

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Doesn't count as he was a Republican, so obviously it was a deep state, CNN, Democrat fake news piece....
 



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"10% for the big guy"

I think this story ought to have surfaced earlier in order to get to the bottom of it, either way.


The perfect nothingburger to electrify the cult. :rolleyes:

Comment to WSJ, one of the most conservative papers in the US.

Mr. Gilliar told the Journal: “I would like to clear up any speculation that former Vice President Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about our potential business structure. I am unaware of any involvement at anytime of the former Vice President. The activity in question never delivered any project revenue.”

And one more time mack, maybe you will understand it now. This was in 2017 when Joe Biden was a private citizen!! Got it or shall I translate it into English? :rolleyes:

Either way, what happened to free market, capitalism, making money, etc etc - did you suddenly lose interest in your or Mr T's ideals?
 



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"10% for the big guy"

I think this story ought to have surfaced earlier in order to get to the bottom of it, either way.


One more thing mack to put this in perspective.

The Chinese company in question put an early lien on this guy's house. You can google it if you are interested. Anyway, they recently went to court and got a verdict that he's got to pay over $600K to that Chinese company. Remember, they have the lien on the house. So, he either pays up or loses the house. Hence, desperate for cash!

Cue in the wonderful Mr T campaign and Ruuuuuudy! Well, no need to repeat the entire story. :rolleyes:

Hint mack: always take things we a grain of salt when it comes to politics and maybe research a little better.
 
The perfect nothingburger to electrify the cult. :rolleyes:

Comment to WSJ, one of the most conservative papers in the US.

Mr. Gilliar told the Journal: “I would like to clear up any speculation that former Vice President Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about our potential business structure. I am unaware of any involvement at anytime of the former Vice President. The activity in question never delivered any project revenue.”

And one more time mack, maybe you will understand it now. This was in 2017 when Joe Biden was a private citizen!! Got it or shall I translate it into English? :rolleyes:

Either way, what happened to free market, capitalism, making money, etc etc - did you suddenly lose interest in your or Mr T's ideals?

One more time Harry, that's why I said get to the bottom of it either way, meaning wrongdoing or no wrongdoing. Now there is not enough time and so the undecided voter is really none the wiser.

However one thing, Joe is quoted, in that vid above, as publicly stating 'I have never discussed business with hunter' .... why was he trying to distance himself, when he could just say 'I'm a private citizen, I can do business deals same as anybody else'
 
Got 2 more to do before Tuesday, I do enjoy Halloween ha
Weather all over the map here; 22 yesterday, 1 today.
I found last year I had to replace the pumpkins every few days as they rotted too quickly; so a plug-in one this year :P
 
Weather all over the map here; 22 yesterday, 1 today.
I found last year I had to replace the pumpkins every few days as they rotted too quickly; so a plug-in one this year :p
Her mother sent me a video earlier, she made a spider web hall way of doom like a obstacle course between the webs with drop down spiders and slime, looked awesome so fair play to her.
isabelle is off next week from school so her mom is trying to keep her and her sis occupied, she doesn’t work so has a full week with them.

sorry should of posted this in the Halloween thread, move if needs be.
As you where folks :-)
 
One more time Harry, that's why I said get to the bottom of it either way, meaning wrongdoing or no wrongdoing. Now there is not enough time and so the undecided voter is really none the wiser.

However one thing, Joe is quoted, in that vid above, as publicly stating 'I have never discussed business with hunter' .... why was he trying to distance himself, when he could just say 'I'm a private citizen, I can do business deals same as anybody else'

One more time.......just kidding. :D :D

I'm afraid there is no bottom because there is no top. The company did not take off, no revenue, no contracts, no nothing. And the most important, Joe Biden was a private citizen in 2017. He does not have to answer anything at all, nada.

He said he never discussed business with Hunter while being VP. That still stands mack, sorry to take your hope away that you might just finally had something you could pin on Biden. I know you are trying very hard.
 
One more time.......just kidding. :D :D

I'm afraid there is no bottom because there is no top. The company did not take off, no revenue, no contracts, no nothing. And the most important, Joe Biden was a private citizen in 2017. He does not have to answer anything at all, nada.

He said he never discussed business with Hunter while being VP. That still stands mack, sorry to take your hope away that you might just finally had something you could pin on Biden. I know you are trying very hard.
It’s good harry that mack has you, the oracle, to roll eyes at him and keep him straight as all you clearly state is fact and the rest of us are wrong.

And as for trying, you are very...

hope your well, not spoke in a while harry.

best regards, as always
Ben
 
One more time.......just kidding. :D :D

I'm afraid there is no bottom because there is no top. The company did not take off, no revenue, no contracts, no nothing. And the most important, Joe Biden was a private citizen in 2017. He does not have to answer anything at all, nada.

He said he never discussed business with Hunter while being VP. That still stands mack, sorry to take your hope away that you might just finally had something you could pin on Biden. I know you are trying very hard.

That is a long time though H, 8 years...I better keep on searching :p
 
That is a long time though H, 8 years...I better keep on searching :p

I repeat now myself as I said this in an earlier post.

Mr T should get reelected. It would be fabulous for the world. He's already scrapped treaties/alliances wherever he could, diminishing the role of the US on the world stage. He also sanctioned to the moon and back dozens of countries, friend and foe alike, which again damages the US at the end of the day. Four more years? Go ahead.

A simple and small example. He's been trying to strangle any 5G competition, especially Huawei because the US companies snoozed. But because the US controls the flow of the money via the $ and SWIFT, he can simply do it.

Huawei just released their own "Google Maps", not yet perfect but close, because under the sanctions they cannot use Google apps. Give it four years and they might just knock Google of the throne. Who's laughing then? Revenue and top-paying jobs at a US company and its countless suppliers will be lost.

The other more critical item is the chip manufacturing. At the moment, US companies are holding the world at ransom because the architecture of the chips and the machinery to produce them is under US control. Huawei's capability is roughly 3 generations behind the newest chip architecture. Again, give it four more years and where do you think they will be? And who will be laughing then and who will be suffering? Immense revenue and top-paying jobs at US companies will be lost forever.

This is just one example mack, a very small one at that. I could write down pages more where Mr T has done immense damage to the standing of the US in the world. I had to laugh so hard when he sent Pompano to Japan to gather support for an "Asian NATO" to counter "bad China". Pompano promised “significant announcements” and “significant achievements” before he boarded the plane. Only four countries involved in what they call the Quad and they couldn't even agree on a common communique at the end of the talks.

But, hey, the Chinese will buy more soybean and corn, what a victory for Mr T. And he brought the coal jobs back, what a bright future that promises to be. :rolleyes:


BTW, good luck with those trade deal negotiations. Chlorine chicken and hormone beef shall be your smallest worries.
 
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That is a long time though H, 8 years...I better keep on searching :p

What I forgot to say.

5G is so yesterday, so Mr T can have it. Huawei said the other day that they are well-advanced into the 6G development, and the main target will be to do it all without a single piece of equipment/IP etc from the US.

Well done Mr T! More corn, more soybean. :lolup:
 
I repeat now myself.

Mr T should get reelected. It would be fabulous for the world. He's already scrapped treaties/alliances wherever he could, diminishing the role of the US on the world stage. He also sanctioned to the moon and back dozens of countries, friend and foe alike, which again damages the US at the end of the day. Four more years? Go ahead.

A simple and small example. He's been trying to strangle any 5G competition, especially Huawei because the US companies snoozed. But because the US controls the flow of the money via the $ and SWIFT, he can simply do it.

Huawei just released their own "Google Maps", not yet perfect but close, because under the sanctions they cannot use Google apps. Give it four years and they might just knock Google of the throne. Who's laughing then? Revenue and top-paying jobs at a US company and its countless suppliers will be lost.

The other more critical item is the chip manufacturing. At the moment, US companies are holding the world at ransom because the architecture of the chips and the machinery to produce them is under US control. Huawei's capability is roughly 3 generations behind the newest chip architecture. Again, give it four more years and where do you think they will be? And who will be laughing then and who will be suffering? Immense revenue and top-paying jobs at US companies will be lost forever.

This is just one example mack, a very small on at that. I could write down pages more where Mr T has done immense damage to the standing of the US in the world. I had to laugh so hard when he sent Pompano to Japan to gather support for an "Asian NATO" to counter "bad China". Pompano promised “significant announcements” and “significant achievements” before he boarded the plane. Only four countries involved in what they call the Quad and they couldn't even agree on a common communique at the end of the talks.

But, hey, the Chinese will buy more soybean and corn, what a victory for Mr T. And he brought the coal jobs back, what a bright future that promises to be. :rolleyes:


BTW, good luck with those trade deal negotiations. Chlorine chicken and hormone beef shall be your smallest worries.

Do you really think it is trump deliberating on these geopolitical issues and then making the policy? If the senate [gop] disagree trump wouldn't be able to go in this direction.

I seem to remember reading articles that say sanctions and a tough approach to china have bipartisan agreement in congress.

I agree china won't sit still and rest on it's laurels, they love business and productivity to say the least. Maybe the US establishment [and 5 eyes partners] are frightened their financial&military dominance is at risk from china in a decade or two.
 
What I forgot to say.

5G is so yesterday, so Mr T can have it. Huawei said the other day that they are well-advanced into the 6G development, and the main target will be to do it all without a single piece of equipment/IP etc from the US.

Well done Mr T! More corn, more soybean. :lolup:

6G you say? Which illness is that going to cause? :eek:
 
Do you really think it is trump deliberating on these geopolitical issues and then making the policy? If the senate [gop] disagree trump wouldn't be able to go in this direction.

I seem to remember reading articles that say sanctions and a tough approach to china have bipartisan agreement in congress.

I agree china won't sit still and rest on it's laurels, they love business and productivity to say the least. Maybe the US establishment [and 5 eyes partners] are frightened their financial&military dominance is at risk from china in a decade or two.
They also love a good old wuhan wheezer or virus bless them, that said the food is good so they get a pass.
 
Do you really think it is trump deliberating on these geopolitical issues and then making the policy? If the senate [gop] disagree trump wouldn't be able to go in this direction.

I seem to remember reading articles that say sanctions and a tough approach to china have bipartisan agreement in congress.

I agree china won't sit still and rest on it's laurels, they love business and productivity to say the least. Maybe the US establishment [and 5 eyes partners] are frightened their financial&military dominance is at risk from china in a decade or two.

Of course not mack. He simply likes to show that he is the big man, the boss, call it what you want. He's been like that all his life. A fraud and a braggart.

He has no interest whatsoever in the issues nor does he consider the consequences that could arise in a few years. Neither does he care what the GOP thinks or wants. For him, the victory for the moment is the only thing that counts.

Just about every Western country wants to be/is tough on China. There is nothing special nor new about it.

I will write down my thoughts on the Hunter story and we can come back to the post in a 3 months from now to see how much I got right or wrong.
 
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