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North Korea and US politics

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goatwack said:
That's what voters like to see in future candidates: steadfast indecision

#Kanye2036
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lmao, like there will be an Earth, let alone an American govt come 2036 :P
 
goatwack said:
I've read through most of it, but could you kindly point me to the North Korea bit?
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thats the bit way back on page 1 that then crawled away and died of loneliness :thumbsup:
 
sufferinsilence said:
:eek2:



Where's Harry btw?
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I can't stand chris rino wallace, surprised trump thought it would go well being interviewed by a man who hates his guts.

Harry was here last night, so the thread thingy at the bottom said; must be working on something big for this thread :eek: :laugh:

when's biden going to announce his VP, we're only about 16 weeks away from the vote :eek2:
 
mack341 said:
I can't stand chris rino wallace, surprised trump thought it would go well being interviewed by a man who hates his guts.

Harry was here last night, so the thread thingy at the bottom said; must be working on something big for this thread :eek: :laugh:

when's biden going to announce his VP, we're only about 16 weeks away from the vote :eek2:
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Pretty sure rinos are these trumpsters and Trump himself. There are real republicans out there but these soulless people ain't them.
People should hate Trump...who wouldn't? Except those who like kids in cages or are white supremacists. Or you think being a republican is to hate immigrants, hate liberals, hate democracy itself?
 
vorcirion said:
Pretty sure rinos are these trumpsters and Trump himself. There are real republicans out there but these soulless people ain't them.
People should hate Trump...who wouldn't? Except those who like kids in cages or are white supremacists. Or you think being a republican is to hate immigrants, hate liberals, hate democracy itself?
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well trump did use to be a democrat; when you say soulless, how are you making that assessment - they don't virtue signal?

I was simply pointing out Trump should've known better than try to have a cosy interview with one of his enemies, he has slagged off wallace for bias and fake news so he must be getting dementia himself!
 
mack341 said:
How long does that zoom quilt go on for? makes me dizzy :eek:
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All i know for sure is that it goes on for longer than i watched it. =)
Its pretty cool tho.
Would probably go well with funny mushrooms.

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mack341 said:
well trump did use to be a democrat; when you say soulless, how are you making that assessment - they don't virtue signal?

I was simply pointing out Trump should've known better than try to have a cosy interview with one of his enemies, he has slagged off wallace for bias and fake news so he must be getting dementia himself!
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How Wallace is an enemy? He's just a reporter. That's what's wrong with your side. Everyone who shows you facts is an enemy.
And your side doesn't care about people anymore. Whether it's about immigrants, black people, sick people, unemployed people. You only care about white people and rich people. All your side does is spread the hate since that's the only way your guy can win again. The same as 2016...hate hate hate hate and more hate. You have no unifying message, you have no plans as Trump very well pointed out himself. But still Trump should win? Guess you really like white supremacy that much.
 
vorcirion said:
How Wallace is an enemy? He's just a reporter. That's what's wrong with your side. Everyone who shows you facts is an enemy.
And your side doesn't care about people anymore. Whether it's about immigrants, black people, sick people, unemployed people. You only care about white people and rich people. All your side does is spread the hate since that's the only way your guy can win again. The same as 2016...hate hate hate hate and more hate. You have no unifying message, you have no plans as Trump very well pointed out himself. But still Trump should win? Guess you really like white supremacy that much.
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Just noticed your penchant for labelling and pigeonholing people into sides, so I was curious as to why you felt the need to do that.

Reading through your response there one could be mistaken for thinking you're referencing Republicans/ Trumpians, but actually when reading between the lines it becomes apparent you believe those that don't share your point of view to be rabid fundamentalists, a trait shared by a few other posters who can't compute someone not tying into their black & white condemnations.

So with that said, I have a couple of questions I'd like to pose (I think I know the answers you'll give, but still)

ok, here goes

1) Do you believe it's possible, at all, that some people aren't aligned with Trump and 'neutral', if not objective, towards him?

2) Do you believe everyone that doesn't cream their pants in criticizing him is 'the enemy?'

3) Do you think it's possible to exchange viewpoints on a board without resorting to base insults when someone doesn't agree with you?

4) Are you of the belief that only 'your side' cares about immigrants, black people, unemployed etc

5) And tying in with the above, as someone of Iranian heritage do you believe I advocate racism and 'white power?'

thanks in advance
 
goatwack said:
Just noticed your penchant for labelling and pigeonholing people into sides, so I was curious as to why you felt the need to do that.

Reading through your response there one could be mistaken for thinking you're referencing Republicans/ Trumpians, but actually when reading between the lines it becomes apparent you believe those that don't share your point of view to be rabid fundamentalists, a trait shared by a few other posters who can't compute someone not tying into their black & white condemnations.

So with that said, I have a couple of questions I'd like to pose (I think I know the answers you'll give, but still)

ok, here goes

1) Do you believe it's possible, at all, that some people aren't aligned with Trump and 'neutral', if not objective, towards him?

2) Do you believe everyone that doesn't cream their pants in criticizing him is 'the enemy?'

3) Do you think it's possible to exchange viewpoints on a board without resorting to base insults when someone doesn't agree with you?

4) Are you of the belief that only 'your side' cares about immigrants, black people, unemployed etc

5) And tying in with the above, as someone of Iranian heritage do you believe I advocate racism and 'white power?'

thanks in advance
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1) Sure everything is possible but that group is very small. Either you hate him or love him really.

2) Sounds like whataboutism. It's Trump and his supporters who call people as "the enemy" as Mack proved here.

3) Yeah you can play the victim again if you like. It's a skill I guess.

4) Until Trump's side shows that they care about people...yes that is what I believe. They've done absolutely nothing for those groups...they've made their lives worse actually! Trying to take health care away, stopping all immigration, constant promotion of white supremacy and no republican except Romney do anything about it. They stay silent and keep supporting Trump.

5) If you support Trump, then you also support his policies including white supremacy and racism. He has made perfectly clear what he's about. There are plenty of republicans you can support who don't promote these things. At the moment I can't think any republican who actually promotes those things, but Trump does it. So it's your own choice if you support his policies or not.
 
vorcirion said:
1) Sure everything is possible but that group is very small. Either you hate him or love him really.

2) Sounds like whataboutism. It's Trump and his supporters who call people as "the enemy" as Mack proved here.

3) Yeah you can play the victim again if you like. It's a skill I guess.

4) Until Trump's side shows that they care about people...yes that is what I believe. They've done absolutely nothing for those groups...they've made their lives worse actually! Trying to take health care away, stopping all immigration, constant promotion of white supremacy and no republican except Romney do anything about it. They stay silent and keep supporting Trump.

5) If you support Trump, then you also support his policies including white supremacy and racism. He has made perfectly clear what he's about. There are plenty of republicans you can support who don't promote these things. At the moment I can't think any republican who actually promotes those things, but Trump does it. So it's your own choice if you support his policies or not.
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As I thought :laugh:

Bravo!
 
goatwack said:
Nah. I'm fairly indifferent to him

So that makes me......the enemy? :laugh:
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It's just sad that you don't seem to care about what Trump does. Let's see if you start caring when you need to negotiate a trade deal with US. You better hope that Biden is the president then :P
 
vorcirion said:
It's just sad that you don't seem to care about what Trump does. Let's see if you start caring when you need to negotiate a trade deal with US. You better hope that Biden is the president then :p
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Well you see if you bothered to trawl through the various Trump threads you'd find I've taken the piss out of him many a time, as well as state (fairly near the beginning) he should be given a chance to prove himself, be 'judged' at the end of his tenure etc

So hardly partisan is it?

Nor have I ever stated the sun shines out of his arse, have I? So a bit of everything really. To tie in with not being aligned either way

I'd happily agree if I found him to have done wrong, and he certainly has no doubt! But I don't go stir-crazy in attacking anyone that dares to utter his name without criticizing him!

And of course I/ we all get affected by his actions, and for that reason I 'care' as much as I need to without actually being American or residing in the Land of Opportunity

But if we're to judge politicians on their personality flaws, without even having taken office, I could just as easily say who the hell would vote for Creepy 'I sniff young girls' hair and am senile' Joe Biden?
 
mack341 said:
I can't stand chris rino wallace, surprised trump thought it would go well being interviewed by a man who hates his guts.

Harry was here last night, so the thread thingy at the bottom said; must be working on something big for this thread :eek: :laugh:

when's biden going to announce his VP, we're only about 16 weeks away from the vote :eek2:
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Do you like it better when Hannity or Ingraham interviews Trump and just lets him spout whatever he wants? Which then gets fact-checked by "liberal" sites like Snopes or god forbid CNN. Well, you know how it works.

I like the fact Wallace actually knows his shit and says it's not right what he's saying. That's how every political interview or debate should be, I don't care if the interviewed is left or right: when they're telling lies the journalist should intervene!

Can't shake the fact Trump is preparing his goodbyes. Commuting Stone's sentence, cancelled a rally in New Hampshire that could've been held easily, getting interviewed by Wallace. I'm probably missing some things.

I think Biden will announce his VP at or just before the D convention. Isn't that how it usually is? I could be wrong.
 
goatwack said:
Well you see if you bothered to trawl through the various Trump threads you'd find I've taken the piss out of him many a time, as well as state (fairly near the beginning) he should be given a chance to prove himself, be 'judged' at the end of his tenure etc

So hardly partisan is it?

Nor have I ever stated the sun shines out of his arse, have I? So a bit of everything really. To tie in with not being aligned either way

I'd happily agree if I found him to have done wrong, and he certainly has no doubt! But I don't go stir-crazy in attacking anyone that dares to utter his name without criticizing him!

And of course I/ we all get affected by his actions, and for that reason I 'care' as much as I need to without actually being American or residing in the Land of Opportunity

But if we're to judge politicians on their personality flaws, without even having taken office, I could just as easily say who the hell would vote for Creepy 'I sniff young girls' hair and am senile' Joe Biden?
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Okay we all know the bad stuff that Trump has done. I'm curious what good things he has done in your opinion?
 
vorcirion said:
Okay we all know the bad stuff that Trump has done. I'm curious what good things he has done in your opinion?
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So you can dissect it and call me Trumpian racist bigot? No thanks!

To reiterate, I haven't said I favour Trump, I'm pretty sure I already mentioned that? I said I'm indifferent to him, and will objectively judge each of his actions on their own merit as and when.

Not mock how he holds a bottle of water or call people talking about him white supremacists
 
goatwack said:
So you can dissect it and call me Trumpian racist bigot? No thanks!

To reiterate, I haven't said I favour Trump, I'm pretty sure I already mentioned that? I said I'm indifferent to him, and will objectively judge each of his actions on their own merit as and when.

Not mock how he holds a bottle of water or call people talking about him white supremacists
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Seems to be surprisingly difficult question to answer :P But fine...let's wait for 3,5 months and see if he suddenly changes his attitude and solves Covid, racism, unemployment, climate change, health care etc...(spoiler: he won't).
 
vorcirion said:
Seems to be surprisingly difficult question to answer :p But fine...let's wait for 3,5 months and see if he suddenly changes his attitude and solves Covid, racism, unemployment, climate change, health care etc...(spoiler: he won't).
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He won't solve any of those, no

Neither will any politician alive, most notably generationally-entrenched issues like Race Relations and Climate Change. Unemployment skyrocketing because of a pandemic, and ousting the Pharmas' stranglehold on national healthcare isn't what I'd call a 'quick fix'.

So attributing it all on one person, in this case Trump, is ludicrous. It'd take anyone decades to even remotely alter
 
I'm not one to enlighten anyone, i just give my observation.
It's not hard to smell the BS i have lived in the same system most of you have.
 
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