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Harry are you sure none of my posts in this thread don't deserve that, perhaps at least the runner up prize :p

Nah...you're a reformed character these days...:)

Personally, I believe he has frontotemporal dementia. His mental deterioration in the last year has become extremely apparent. I won’t bore you with examples. A doctor friend of mine says he and his colleagues don’t dispute Trump has dementia, they just disagree about what stage he’s in.

A very good friend was diagnosed with FTD over a year ago. The change in her personality is very disturbing, considering she used to be a very intelligent, laid-back, easy going person with an unquenchable thirst for knowledge. She is now in a care home, as her responses to internal/external stimuli of any type were simply not normal. She sees threats where there are none, and just seemed to stop understanding what is being said, in that she hears the words, but they don't register. So she is no longer able to comprehend why people react the way they do.

If you watch videos of Trump even as recently as five years ago, he was articulate and more than capable of producing reasoned arguments.

Now it is obvious he has an extremely limited vocabulary, is unable to discuss anything that is outside of his particular sphere of interest, and when the teleprompter is in use, he is simply reading a string of words, which means he isn't able to enter into any discussion as the actual meaning appears to elude him. He now just constantly talks at people, rather than to them.

If the USA had the Trump of 5 to 10 years ago, he would have been a very different President, and he might well have justified his MAGA election promises.
 
. . . She sees threats where there are none, and just seemed to stop understanding what is being said, in that she hears the words, but they don't register. So she is no longer able to comprehend why people react the way they do. . .

. . . Now it is obvious he has an extremely limited vocabulary, is unable to discuss anything that is outside of his particular sphere of interest, and when the teleprompter is in use, he is simply reading a string of words, which means he isn't able to enter into any discussion as the actual meaning appears to elude him. He now just constantly talks at people, rather than to them.

Exactly. And I'm sorry to hear about your friend. :(

The limited vocabulary has become really obvious. Also the inappropriate reactions and behaviours in certain situations. Like sitting down during the American national anthem and looking confused. He rambles on about whatever enters his head regardless of what question has been asked or the environment he is in. The national prayer breakfast fiasco comes to mind.

And it isn't just a few one-offs, Trump's symptoms of dementia and his bizarre behaviour are visible everyday now. Anyone who is familiar with the signs of dementia no doubt sees it too.
 
For this or when I defended your honor?

Cuz you don’t insult people when they have a different opinion from you. And of course for being anAmerican. That’s enough for me.
Both people suffering from TDS (Trump derangement syndrome)
and the people suffering from BSS (Blind sheep syndrome)
There is a much more important question to answer

What does the fox say?



Again. Troll.

This thread will get shut down because ppl like you insist on insulting others on here. It’s not so subtle. Stop.
 
That is an interesting article by Ron you have linked to Shadyfei, so I'm going to copy and paste it here as it's a bit more nuanced than simply the virus is a hoax. . .
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. . . If our future has a dystopian destiny, for want of a better phrase, pandemics and lockdowns would be a part of that. If the major govts worldwide introduce new draconian laws on the back of this virus just as they did after 9-11, then this could be another step in the direction of a more totalitarian kind of society. I hope not but it's something to look out for in the virus aftermath.

That was a very thoughtful response. I agree. I loathe when government institutes nanny state policies. Unfortunately, that is what is required in the face of a pandemic. Notice which countries are better at dealing with C-19 - mostly authoritarian, socialist countries with tighter controls over the populace.

We'll see how bad it gets, and they'll probably be some knee-jerk power grabs by government in the coming year. I think this will wane with time. I hope. :eek2:

And you'll forgive me missing Ron's nuance when the title of his article is "The Coronavirus Hoax." :laugh:

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Cuz you don’t insult people when they have a different opinion from you. And of course for being anAmerican. That’s enough for me.



Again. Troll.

This thread will get shut down because ppl like you insist on insulting others on here. It’s not so subtle. Stop.
What i said was not directed at anyone in particular.
Believe it or not, we are on the same team.

I cant argue about being called a troll tho.
But not all trolls are bad trolls.
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Some folks are too serious.

We need some fun. But I do agree that sometimes what is said might be funny to some, and others might take it personally or get offended.

I don't think anyone here is deliberately attacking on other members. At the very least Kroffe.
 
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Some folks are too serious.

We need some fun. But I do agree that sometimes what is said might be funny to some, and others might take it personally or get offended.

I don't think anyone here are deliberately attacking on other members. At the very least Kroffe.
Thats exactly what i want people to think.
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That was a very thoughtful response. I agree. I loathe when government institutes nanny state policies. Unfortunately, that is what is required in the face of a pandemic. Notice which countries are better at dealing with C-19 - mostly authoritarian, socialist countries with tighter controls over the populace.

We'll see how bad it gets, and they'll probably be some knee-jerk power grabs by government in the coming year. I think this will wane with time. I hope. :eek2:

And you'll forgive me missing Ron's nuance when the title of his article is "The Coronavirus Hoax." :laugh:

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I must admit I quite like Ron and Rand, what I didn't realise until a minute ago was that Ron has a doctor of medicine degree, and from his bio on wiki:

"Paul served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force from 1963 to 1968, and worked as an obstetrician-gynecologist from the 1960s to the 1980s"

so he isn't writing from a layman's perspective, not sure what Rand has said about the virus - oh he's tested positive :eek2: I wonder if Ron views this virus differently now :confused: ....just how contagious it is, and so the lockdown strategy is required.
 
I gotta hand it to you, those are some Outdated URL (timeout) connections you’ve made there. Let’s see if I can add to it.

April 10th, 2020 is a Friday - Good Friday in fact. And what is Good Friday or “God’s Friday?” Why it’s the day to honour Jesus’s suffering for our sins. The son of God was beaten, flogged, forced to carry the cross through crowds and then crucified. Everyone knows the story. You see where I’m going here.

What could that mean in relation to Individual1 himself? I’ll let you work that out. But the phrases 25th amendment and non compos mentis come to mind.

But hey, I’m no expert at this stuff. You’re smart to have a plan and hunker down that day. Good thinking. :thumbsup:

* I totally spaced the difference in the way we denote calendar dates.


@ShadyFei
Confession: I, too, love the sound of my own words.

Gematria. It was a joke... I was playing up to the conspiracy theory theme that people sling my way. Sorry you didn't catch it.
 
Same until she grew old. Personally don’t think she’s aged all that well. Also spouts sjw hollyweird nonsense now. Also nickslots acts better.
Haha, i was a teenager when i watched it.
So my age may have had some part in my decision.

Phoebe may have aged well, but she aint got nothing on Joey.
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Haha, i was a teenager when i watched it.
So my age may have had some part in my decision.

Phoebe may have aged well, but she aint got nothing on Joey.
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Oh he’s a Stud. No question.
if I was a fan of schofields private wine tasting events or a pool party at dunovers I’d be team joey.
but am not, I’ll stick with blondie on the left.
 
While 'slotplayer' deserves the CM award for the Joke of the Year 2020 (as stated earlier in this thread), you deserve the award for the Faceplant of the Decade, the biggliest ever. :rolleyes: :D

The length you go to defend your Dear Leader is just mindboggling.
The best current example are the conspiracy theories emerging now in right-wing fringe and mainstream media around Dr Fauci.

He is suddenly a deep-state operative, a Clinton lover and god knows what else, out to get Mr T, simply because the experienced scientist contradicted their idol a few times (rightly so, I might add) and pushed back on some of the lies Mr T was spouting.

Lou Dobbs the other day: "Potus was right, and frankly Dr Fauci was wrong." when talking about the wonderdrug chloroquine Mr T peddled as the game-changer without proof.

You simply can't make this stuff up. You are either a cult member or the enemy. Madness. :rolleyes:

Are you serious? Can you not see how distorted your replies are? I speak and think for myself. Making generalized statements is irresponsible, especially when the purpose is to attach a negative characterization of those that don't share your views. This is a tactic you and many others often employ with arrogant zeal despite plenty of evidence to the contrary. Everyone that participates in this thread deserves the opportunity to add to this thread without being subjected to this crap.


Notable: The press is deliberately misquoting Trump . It's drugs. Not drug.
Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin
There ARE preliminary studies.

And to be clear... I don't adhere to Facui as "the enemy."


 
Exactly. And I'm sorry to hear about your friend. :(

The limited vocabulary has become really obvious. Also the inappropriate reactions and behaviours in certain situations. Like sitting down during the American national anthem and looking confused. He rambles on about whatever enters his head regardless of what question has been asked or the environment he is in. The national prayer breakfast fiasco comes to mind.

And it isn't just a few one-offs, Trump's symptoms of dementia and his bizarre behaviour are visible everyday now. Anyone who is familiar with the signs of dementia no doubt sees it too.

Anyone thinking this guy has not lost its marbles?

I guess he doesn't know what it takes to make a tooling for a press, etc. before you can start line production. :rolleyes:

Until yesterday it was - " we have enough ventilators, there is no shortage", and next thing he's shouting on Twitler.

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Anyone thinking this guy has not lost its marbles?

I guess he doesn't know what it takes to make a tooling for a press, etc. before you can start line production. :rolleyes:

Until yesterday it was - " we have enough ventilators, there is no shortage", and next thing he's
See it’s not so much trump I like, it’s the fact he’s different and isn’t PC.
he’s spoken out about Islam and the trans madness for example.
He’s patriotic and clearly loves the states, and his own country.
he’s also called out a massive bias media whilst getting roasted more than any leader in history and he’s still winning.
As I keep saying why don’t the trump haters have any opinion on other world leaders in such detail? We have to have a reason as many other leaders are a hell of a lot worse and fuck up a hell of a lot more.
I don’t agree with all trump says. Of course I don’t.
but he started a massive movement worldwide rejecting leftism, promoting common sense and free speech.
they are massive reasons I do like him.
He will also win 2020 by a massive margin, people don’t want politically correct nonsense. Some straight talking is enough.
this thread is basically just cnn...
It’s a anti trump thread, funny thing is he’s winning.
And will win again this year..
who’s fault this time? The Chinese virus? The Russians?
Btg’s?..
The constant trump hate is so sad and one sided, those that have the most to say never mention any other leader in this manner.
 
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See it’s not so much trump I like, it’s the fact he’s different and isn’t PC.
he’s spoken out about Islam and the trans madness for example.
He’s patriotic and clearly loves the states, and his own country.
he’s also called out a massive bias media whilst getting roasted more than any leader in history and he’s still winning.
As I keep saying why don’t the trump haters have any opinion on other world leaders in such detail? We have to have a reason as many other leaders are a hell of a lot worse and fuck up a hell of a lot more.
I don’t agree with all trump says. Of course I don’t.
but he started a massive movement worldwide rejecting leftism, promoting common sense and free speech.
they are massive reasons I do like him.
He will also win 2020 by a massive margin, people don’t want politically correct nonsense. Some straight talking is enough.
this thread is basically just cnn...
It’s a anti trump thread, funny thing is he’s winning.
And will win again this year..
who’s fault this time? The Chinese virus? The Russians?
Btg’s?..
The constant trump hate is so sad and one sided, those that have the most to say never mention any other leader in this manner.

You shall deserve a CM award too, just have to think of the name first. :rolleyes:

You can listen right now to his presser for 2 minutes and then see if you still think the guy is kosher?

One detail, that might be a pointer for you that he really does not care. He tagged the wrong Twitter account for General Motors. It becomes clear that he is doing it just to try and show his cult that he's in charge.

But he's not, the governors shoulder the hard work while the Chosen One stands at the microphone and lauds himself. He hasn't spent a second in that presser room for over a year and now that he can't do his propaganda rallies, he's discovered that he doesn't need to leave the WH to do them. :rolleyes:

I can count dozens of things the "leftism" has been responsible in our daily life, things the "right" was totally against and you take for granted when you need them. :rolleyes:
 
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Your quote is literally the definition of cognitive dissonance. :thumbsup:

Cognitive dissonance occurs when new information that conflicts with someone’s deeply held beliefs causes that person to feel mental discomfort. People will go to great lengths to alleviate this discomfort by downplaying or distorting the facts or simply filling the void with false information like conspiracy theories.

It is prevalent in people who believe sweeping false narratives based upon incomplete information. @Kelly Jo here seems to prefer conspiracy theories to resolve this inconsistency.

Examples of reality clashing with doctrine: Ron Paul
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and then a week later his son Rand Paul, a US senator, was diagnosed with Exactly that, Covid-19. Or a conservative couple declaring the Coronavirus crisis is fake news perpetrated by Liberal media while, at the same time, cancelling their Alaskan cruise out of “an abundance of caution.”

In these times of political polarization where people completely believe their political party’s propaganda that is consistent with their world view — but inconsistent with the facts — cognitive dissonance is a widespread affliction.
You don't know me. More to the point, you apparently don't know anything about William Hamilton, Inslaw, or PROMIS, and how it ties many key players like William Barr, Glen Simpson, his wife Mary Jacoby, annnnnd
SystemTech Patent Attorney and Intellectual property owner, Mrs Hillary Clinton to Spygate, Russia Collusion Hoax and intelligence departments from countries all over the world. I've logged hundreds of hours researching this, so you can reasonably conclude that I don't appreciate your flippant characterization. I am so done with this thread...
 
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You shall deserve a CM award too, just have to think of the name first. :rolleyes:

You can listen right now to his presser for 2 minutes and then see if you still think the guy is kosher?

One detail, that might be a pointer for you that he really does not care. He tagged the wrong Twitter account for General Motors. It becomes clear that he is doing it just to try and show his cult that he's in charge.
harry did Obama never make a error or fuck up?
the obsession with trump is crazy IMO. Not just from this thread but the world in general.
He was democratically elected, with all due respect mate but tough shit you don’t like him. its like brexit but worse, accept what the masses wanted and got. Also when he wins this year it’ll prove further his style and opinions are wanted even more.
Don’t blame the player, blame the game.
 
Are you serious? Can you not see how distorted your replies are? I speak and think for myself. Making generalized statements is irresponsible, especially when the purpose is to attach a negative characterization of those that don't share your views. This is a tactic you and many others often employ with arrogant zeal despite plenty of evidence to the contrary. Everyone that participates in this thread deserves the opportunity to add to this thread without being subjected to this crap.


Notable: The press is deliberately misquoting Trump . It's drugs. Not drug.
Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin
There ARE preliminary studies.

And to be clear... I don't adhere to Facui as "the enemy."




What is distorted for you, dear? :rolleyes:
 
You don't know me. More to the point, you apparently don't know anything about William Hamilton, Inslaw, or PROMIS, and how it ties many key players like William Barr, Glen Simpson, his wife Mary Jacoby, annnnnd
SystemTech Patent Attorney and Intellectual property owner, Mrs Hillary Clinton to Spygate, Russia Collusion Hoax and intelligence departments from countries all over the world. I've logged hundreds of hours researching this, so you can reasonably conclude that I don't appreciate your flippant characterization. I am so done with this thread...
Who is William Hamilton? If he’s a streamer I’ll bust his ass!..
 
Whatever happened to being centrist eh. I'd have thought that was what common sense and balanced views stood for, a little bit of everything without the extremes either way.

Like I might be left-leaning on some issues and far-right on others kind of thing
 
Whatever happened to being centrist eh. I'd have thought that was what common sense and balanced views stood for, a little bit of everything without the extremes either way.

Like I might be left-leaning on some issues and far-right on others kind of thing
Fair point.. I’d actually say the conservatives where exactly where you are at.
we don’t have a right party but certainly have a radical far left party in momentum. Sorry labour.
leaving Boris moderate in the middle.
 
My leftism has been slightly chipped away in recent years; the depths to which Labour have plummeted in recent years, cumulating with their own version of Trump, in Corbyn, nearly tipped me.

Not helped by when I hear folk like Owen Jones prattle on like an oversized Student Union president

So I kind of settled a millimetre to the left of centre.
 
You don't know me. More to the point, you apparently don't know anything about William Hamilton, Inslaw, or PROMIS, and how it ties many key players like William Barr, Glen Simpson, his wife Mary Jacoby, annnnnd
SystemTech Patent Attorney and Intellectual property owner, Mrs Hillary Clinton to Spygate, Russia Collusion Hoax and intelligence departments from countries all over the world. I've logged hundreds of hours researching this, so you can reasonably conclude that I don't appreciate your flippant characterization. I am so done with this thread...

Kelly Jo thank you for this post, I hadn't heard of inslaw and PROMIS, very interesting and something I shall now read up on. It will be a shame for you to leave this thread, you're clearly on a journey of discovery with the politics and research, the US society is on one too and donald Trump is at the helm, which means there are plenty of things to discuss.

I mentioned a few months ago that I didn't trust Barr, and that he was sent in there to steady the ship and get control of things, convince trump he was on his side and looking into the 2016/7 spygate saga, but so far no one has had their collar felt from the FBI etc...so probably just another elaborate cover up operation by Barr.

One of the most important high profile prisoners is allowed to 'hang' himself, with only sleeping guards and malfunctioning cameras in the high security wing, it's just a joke and all under Barr's leadership/control.

I'm waiting for John Durham's conclusions and report, they said he'd convened a grand jury but I've heard nothing since as to what he intends to do with these powers, is anyone going to face tough questioning and investigating. If Barr hand selected Durham then I don't hold out any hope the truth will be revealed.
 
Kelly Jo thank you for this post, I hadn't heard of inslaw and PROMIS, very interesting and something I shall now read up on. It will be a shame for you to leave this thread, you're clearly on a journey of discovery with the politics and research, the US society is on one too and donald Trump is at the helm, which means there are plenty of things to discuss.

I mentioned a few months ago that I didn't trust Barr, and that he was sent in there to steady the ship and get control of things, convince trump he was on his side and looking into the 2016/7 spygate saga, but so far no one has had their collar felt from the FBI etc...so probably just another elaborate cover up operation by Barr.

One of the most important high profile prisoners is allowed to 'hang' himself, with only sleeping guards and malfunctioning cameras in the high security wing, it's just a joke and all under Barr's leadership/control.

I'm waiting for John Durham's conclusions and report, they said he'd convened a grand jury but I've heard nothing since as to what he intends to do with these powers, is anyone going to face tough questioning and investigating. If Barr hand selected Durham then I don't hold out any hope the truth will be revealed.
Must be honest Mack. Your posts are non biased and you don’t judge.
Always a pleasure to read no matter what side of the fence I sit. Fair play,I couldn’t be as reserved as you are.
 
When times are great and the economy soars, the conservatives think it's because of free market economy and capitalism. Anything "left" leaning is frowed upon and either labeled as snowflakeism or PC or even socialism.

But when times are grave, a stronger government is preferred and state aid to businesses (for example) are demanded. Some kind of socialism is accepted when your own ass is in the line.

Is free market economy really free when the government is demanded to take corrective measures when the market mechanism isn't working?
 
When times are great and the economy soars, the conservatives think it's because of free market economy and capitalism. Anything "left" leaning is frowed upon and either labeled as snowflakeism or PC or even socialism.

But when times are grave, a stronger government is preferred and state aid to businesses (for example) are demanded. Some kind of socialism is accepted when your own ass is in the line.

Is free market economy really free when the government is demanded to take corrective measures when the market mechanism isn't working?
I’d not say that.
Let’s have it right.. at the moment Boris in the uk is exercising socialism at a level never seen.
but to exercise this in a regular situation would be a utter disaster and wouldn’t be sustainable.
nothing isn’t working, infact it’s working as intended via working and capitalism. if it wasn’t or capitalism in the first place with people paying and working such a fall back wouldn’t even be a option. If we where just doing a corbyn and giving free stuff the government at the moment wouldn’t be doing such a amazing job sustaining sanity, wages and business.
And left leaning is frowned upon, just like socialism for a reason, not feelings.. the fact that it doesn’t work anywhere and history proves it so...
unless you want to visit Venezuela and tell me All is beer and heavy metal mate?..
 
I’d not say that.
Let’s have it right.. at the moment Boris in the uk is exercising socialism at a level never seen.
but to exercise this in a regular situation would be a utter disaster and wouldn’t be sustainable.
nothing isn’t working, infact it’s working as intended via working and capitalism. if it wasn’t or capitalism in the first place with people paying and working such a fall back wouldn’t even be a option. If we where just doing a corbyn and giving free stuff the government at the moment wouldn’t be doing such a amazing job sustaining sanity, wages and business.
And left leaning is frowned upon, just like socialism for a reason, not feelings.. the fact that it doesn’t work anywhere and history proves it so...
unless you want to visit Venezuela and tell me All is beer and heavy metal mate?..

You also misundestood me Ben. The point was that capitalism and conservative values are great when things work. When they don't, those lefty ideas and tools are accepted. But not before. It's hypocrisy.

Both have their values and a place in a modern society. The problem is not something that is right or left. The problem is the illusory importance of the belief a group gives to their beliefs. This is universal, both sides are guilty of it.

And yes, beer and metal are essential. At least in my personal
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of things.
 
You also misundestood me Ben. The point was that capitalism and conservative values are great when things work. When they not, those lefty ideas and tools are accepted. But not before. It's hypocrisy.

Both have their values and a place in a modern society. The problem is not something that is right or left. The problem is the illusory importance of the belief a group gives to their beliefs. This is universal, both sides are guilty of it.

And yes, beer and metal are essential. At least in my personal
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of things.
Totally agree.
I myself whom describes as right leaning (a bit) is so fed up of leftists this, leftists that.
Infact it’s becoming boring.
The tribal mentality we are seeing is pointless, some agreement with a good middle ground would be lovely, sadly as people play policy’s Ans politics like a game it’ll be a long time until we see it mate. IMO
Sadly only Able to have a few beers this evening as have Isabelle tomorrow early, I may indulge further tomorrow evening.
 
Totally agree.
I myself whom describes as right leaning (a bit) is so fed up of leftists this, leftists that.
Infact it’s becoming boring.
The tribal mentality we are seeing is pointless, some agreement with a good middle ground would be lovely, sadly as people play policy’s Ans politics like a game it’ll be a long time until we see it mate. IMO
Sadly only Able to have a few beers this evening as have Isabelle tomorrow early, I may indulge further tomorrow evening.

Worry not, I've had enough for all us tonight. Alcohol that is.
 
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